What is your theory on dinosaurs?

[GaryA]

God spoke the universe into existance. Were all the planets void and without form? I dont know if your silly or serious but either way. Have a good weekend.

Planets? What planets?

When God "spoke" the "universe" into existence, there were no "planets" - no stars - no moon - no sun - only the earth. Everything "in the heavens" came along on the fourth day...

 

[TruthDefender]

Planets? What planets?

When God "spoke" the "universe" into existence, there were no "planets" - no stars - no moon - no sun - only the earth. Everything "in the heavens" came along on the fourth day...

Or maybe, He spoke ALL of the planets into existence, all at once! It is said that the word “earth” just means land (vs 10).

Everything was complete after 6 days, not 4 days.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Yes, but we were talking about the beginning.
Was Mr. Columbus in the beginning? lol

Only God
We can only see that every heavenly body is spherical and deduce that the earth was too.

 

[TruthDefender]

Only God
We can only see that every heavenly body is spherical and deduce that the earth was too.

Not in the beginning! Hence the verbage, devoid of form.

“The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1‬:‭2‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

 

[GaryA]

But it says there was no planet (void of form) so it probably wasn’t even a sphere at this point.

From its creation to this very day - the earth has never been a sphere.

Or maybe, He spoke ALL of the planets into existence, all at once!

There is no 'maybe' - a 'planet' is a "wondering star" - and, stars were made on day four.

It is said that the word “earth” just means land (vs 10).

Yes - the simple word "earth" refers to land, dirt, etc.

Everything was complete after 6 days, not 4 days.

I never said there were only 4 days.

 

[GaryA]

Only God
We can only see that every heavenly body is spherical and deduce that the earth was too.

Do you have any idea just how much error comes from making bad assumptions?

(especially with regard to creation week - bad assumptions very quickly turn into erroneous interpretation of scripture)

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Do you have any idea just how much error comes from making bad assumptions?

(especially with regard to creation week - bad assumptions very quickly turn into erroneous interpretation of scripture)

It's not like I'm assuming that Atlas is holding it up. Nor am I assuming that God was making a pizza.

 

[TruthDefender]

From its creation to this very day - the earth has never been a sphere.

You know what I mean so why are you nitpicking?

There is no 'maybe' - a 'planet' is a "wondering star" - and, stars were made on day four.

Maybe read a little astronomy. A planet is NOT a star! Even God made a distinction by creating the earth on day 3, and the stars on day 4.

Yes - the simple word "earth" refers to land, dirt, etc.


I never said there were only 4 days.

No, you said ALL things in the universe were completed (“came along”) on day 4, which is false.

Are we not in the universe?


Your quote:
When God "spoke" the "universe" into existence, there were no "planets" - no stars - no moon - no sun - only the earth. Everything "in the heavens" came along on the fourth day...

 

[DeanM]

Planets? What planets?

When God "spoke" the "universe" into existence, there were no "planets" - no stars - no moon - no sun - only the earth. Everything "in the heavens" came along on the fourth day...

And?

 

[TruthDefender]

And?

I guess it’s a flyover! Lol
Watch for fallout….

 

[DeanM]

I guess it’s a flyover! Lol
Watch for fallout….

I asked a simple question. I guess there is no answer.

 

[TruthDefender]

I asked a simple question. I guess there is no answer.

I’m hearing crickets….

 

[DeanM]

I’m hearing crickets….

That happens. I asked one of the Darwinians if Adam was the only monkey to turn into a human. I thought he must have been since God had to make Eve from a rib. Whoever it was replied without answering what I thought was a good question.

 

[TruthDefender]

That happens. I asked one of the Darwinians if Adam was the only monkey to turn into a human. I thought he must have been since God had to make Eve from a rib. Whoever it was replied without answering what I thought was a good question.

Yes, good one! )

 

[Lanolin]

It's not like I'm assuming that Atlas is holding it up. Nor am I assuming that God was making a pizza.

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New Zealand left of the map...AGAIN!!
I protest.
Also, where's Antarctica??? Surely its the frozen pizza

 

[TruthDefender]

It's not like I'm assuming that Atlas is holding it up. Nor am I assuming that God was making a pizza.

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Yum! I’m sure God makes the best pizza ever just like Jesus made the best wine ever in Cana. What a treat!!

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Yum! I’m sure God makes the best pizza ever just like Jesus made the best wine ever in Cana. What a treat!!

So what shape do you think God created the earth if not spherical like the other planets and moons?

 

[pinebeach]

That's right, the Smithsonian keeps the majority of their collections in storage. My friends John and Verda went on trips with the Smithsonian all over the country. They had some interesting pictures.
There's always been heavy competition amongst the big museums. Unfortunately they all push evilutionism and fake ages. The best thing is to go on a church tour with someone like us who will speak about the archeology from a Biblical perspective.


There were certainly giant sharks, reptiles, insects/arthropods, mammals and trees. My favorites are teeth from Megalodon a giant species of extinct shark. You've probably seen pictures online or in the Guinness Book of World Records.
I bought one and my friends found a lot of them. Some of them are as big as your hand.

As to humans, the Bible describes giant men with measurements that are comparable to Robert Wadlow.
I started a thread about him a couple years ago. Maybe a search will bring it up with giant in the title under my name.

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The sizes described in the Bible are comparable to him, whereas the uninspired book of Enoch describes giants far bigger than King Kong. It's a book of fiction with it ascribed to the pre flood Enoch, ancestor of Noah. There's also Photoshop hoaxes online about human bones that have been far beyond the Biblical description. Anything like those should be considered suspect.
The Bible descriptions like Goliath are major indeed. I think that the fake photos replace the true credibility of real giants, so we want to stand on the word of God and what we can confirm for certain. That said, the big museums go out of their way to avoid confirmation of anything that confirms the truth about our Bible. Some of the displays break my heart when I know that children are misled away from the Lord.

The Smithsonian is not the world's arbiter of all things dino. or anything for that matter. Life actually exists outside of the good ole US of A. Really.

The giants in the Bible, aka the Nephilim are the results of the fallen angels leaving their first estate and mating with human women. They were one of the main reasons for the flood. Noah's line was not tainted by them.

Sons of God are not morally upstanding human men. They are literally created by God and are not human. Maybe if people remembered that the Bible is a spiritual book that reveals a spiritual and invisible (to us) world, understanding of actual events described in scripture would not be so often relegated to 'well that happened then but no longer applies' or 'that is just fiction or a metaphor' or whatever.

People say they believe in the Trinity, in God who is Spirit, in Jesus who became flesh and lived on this earth and the Hoy Spirit but often stop right there and forget or do not even want to know, about the rest of the invisible realm which, when we die, we will become a part of until we receive new bodies.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

The Smithsonian is not the world's arbiter of all things dino. or anything for that matter. Life actually exists outside of the good ole US of A. Really.

Where did I say that the Smithsonian Museum was the world's arbiter on anything?
Please post that because I never implied that .
I've given tours to zoos and the Carnegie museum. I did this because I wanted those churches to get a biblical perspective rather than that of the evilutionists. I've taught creation in public schools and Christian. Really

The giants in the Bible, aka the Nephilim are the results of the fallen angels leaving their first estate and mating with human women. They were one of the main reasons for the flood. Noah's line was not tainted by them.

That is a presumptive theory that requires much speculation and adding information to the actual Biblical account.

Sons of God are not morally upstanding human men. They are literally created by God and are not human. Maybe if people remembered that the Bible is a spiritual book that reveals a spiritual and invisible (to us) world, understanding of actual events described in scripture would not be so often relegated to 'well that happened then but no longer applies' or 'that is just fiction or a metaphor' or whatever.

People say they believe in the Trinity, in God who is Spirit, in Jesus who became flesh and lived on this earth and the Hoy Spirit but often stop right there and forget or do not even want to know, about the rest of the invisible realm which, when we die, we will become a part of until we receive new bodies.

The doctrine of the Trinity is a fundamental foundational doctrine from Genesis to Revelation.
The theory of women mating with angels and giants is a hypothesis much like the Gap Theory. There are clear verses that I find studying angelology and demonology. Genesis chapter 6 does not provide any clear teaching on angels.

 

[pinebeach]

Where did I say that the Smithsonian Museum was the world's arbiter on anything?
Please post that because I never implied that .
I've given tours to zoos and the Carnegie museum. I did this because I wanted those churches to get a biblical perspective rather than that of the evilutionists. I've taught creation in public schools and Christian. Really

Where didn't you say it and I never said you did. I stated an often overlooked fact. Americans often fail to see all of the world around them and tell themselves this is the greatest country in the world and it may be but God is involved with the entire globe. I've given hours to Bible study and listening to people with a doctorate in Hebrew studies. Your credentials do not outweigh the entire world's revelation about God. Are thy not specific to your denom? My husband taught in Christian schools yet he has the wherewithall to understand that God did not reveal all truth to all Baptists or whoever at all times. How many authors actually wrote the Bible? Not one was actually there at creation but we do have some knowledge about it.

That is a presumptive theory that requires much speculation and adding information to the actual Biblical account.

No, it is the truth that people do not want to acknowledge because it upsets their personal or denominational applecart. And there is plenty more that is also speculated about because the truth cannot be grasped by people who do not accept the fact this world is not the main event. There is a spiritual world that we interact with everyday whether or not it is acknowleged. That, is in the Bible.

The doctrine of the Trinity is a fundamental foundational doctrine from Genesis to Revelation.
The theory of women mating with angels and giants is a hypothesis much like the Gap Theory. There are clear verses that I find studying angelology and demonology. Genesis chapter 6 does not provide any clear teaching on angels.

You have it wrong. The Sons of God/aka angels, mated with the women and produced the giants. It is all in the Bible and if you teach or say otherwise, you are misrepresenting what God has revealed with purpose so we should pay attention.

When people are uncomfortable with the spiritual realities of this universe, of which this planet is a part, they choose to either just pass over it or deny it. All Bibles I have and any online ALL are very clear on Genesis 6. Further, do you actually believe that
nothing going on in the world today has anything to do with principalities and spiritual wickedness?

10;Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

When we enter a darkness greater than the one currently happening, those with no understanding of how to be strong in the Lord, those who dismiss what their fleshly minds cannot accept, may find themselves questionning their beliefs as God will possibly seem to have disappeared. I would not bother except some people do not understand because of error they have been taught and it is time to understand where we are in history.

I am not talking about some fantastical so called spritual warfare that God has not called us to. I am talking about believing, actually believing, what is written in scripture and growing deep roots into God whom we say we believe in.

FYI, spiritual reality is as foundational and fundamental as the Trinity you state is truth in the Bible.