HOW CAN I BE 100% SURE THAT I WILL GO TO HEAVEN WHEN I DIE?

[PaulThomson]

Because a person needs assurances doesn't necessarily mean that they're self centered or loveless.
For example: When two people take their wedding vows and promise to be together through sickness and health and be faithful and love one another forever. Are those assurances self centered or loveless? Not at all.
In the same way I've given assurance of my allegiance to Jesus and declared my love for him while promising to have faith in him for all eternity. So I would just like His assurance that I am a true child of God. I know He doesn't owe me that because He gave me life and died for my sins but I just really want him to send the Holy Spirit to live inside me so I can feel His presence in my life all the time.

He tells you He is there. Why do you need to feel something. It is more blessed to believe Him without sensing Him, because then you don’t need a feeling again and again to get reassured again and again, losing assurance when the feeling goes.

 

[Gideon300]

Because a person needs assurances doesn't necessarily mean that they're self centered or loveless.
For example: When two people take their wedding vows and promise to be together through sickness and health and be faithful and love one another forever. Are those assurances self centered or loveless? Not at all.
In the same way I've given assurance of my allegiance to Jesus and declared my love for him while promising to have faith in him for all eternity. So I would just like His assurance that I am a true child of God. I know He doesn't owe me that because He gave me life and died for my sins but I just really want him to send the Holy Spirit to live inside me so I can feel His presence in my life all the time.

If you have accepted Christ as Saviour and Lord, you have the indwelling Holy Spirit. To use your own analogy, if you have made your wedding vows legally, you are married whether or not you feel it. Then as husband and wife you embark on a journey together. Times may be good or not so good, but your marriage is recorded by the government.

If someone wants their marriage to work, they have to work at their marriage. That means spending time with each other and getting to know each other. The Christian life is also about relationship. We need to study God's word to discover the wonderful promises that we have in Christ. We need to fellowship with Him and get to know Him.

Lord Jesus that to receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, all we have to do is ask. God is only too pleased to give His children His best. After all, He gave Jesus to us, to die in our place. What can compare to that?

Let God's word be your assurance. Feelings are unreliable. I was once feeling depressed. The Lord told me to eat something. I did and the feeling lifted. Had God changed? No. Had God's promises failed? No. So the feeling was baseless. Stand on God's promises. You can't go wrong.

 

[Gideon300]

I believe in God whole heartedly and know for a fact that He sent his Son to die for our sins and then rose again 3 days later, and I read bits of the Bible every single day. But aside from the sins that I struggle with over coming there's other ways in which I feel that I'm letting God down as well, like forgetting to pray some days, and not having the motivation to go to church, and not actively spreading the good news like how alot of street preachers do.

It's verses like 2Timothy 2:19 which states that: "Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness" that I feel convicted by.
Because if I can't give up basic sins like swearing (only because its become a natural part of my vocabulary now that I'm 40 something) then surely God will turn me away at the gates of heaven regardless of my belief in Jesus won't he? Especially if my last words are "s*** I'm dieing" for instance.

The other thing that I feel convicted by is that jesus explicitly commanded us (his followers) in Mark 16:15, Matthew 28:19 & Luke 24:47 to "go into the whole world and preach the the gospel & repentance for the forgiveness of sins to all creation, and to make disciples of all nations." This final directive is known as The Great Commission apparently.

So I always wonder whether God will condemn us to hell for things like forgetting to pray some times (especially giving thanks before meals) or not actively spreading the good news as he has told us to.

You need to read Romans 6, 7 and 8. Obviously your concept of salvation is flawed. Salvation is according to what God has done through Christ, not on what we do. To take away my salvation, it would be necessary to go back in time and stop Lord Jesus dying and rising again.

The Bible tells us that we are born again, if we have received Christ. You do not stop being a child of your parents if you mess up from time to time. God is your Father and Lord Jesus your Brother. Remember that God chose you before you chose Jesus. The old you that troubles you so much is dead and buried (Galatians 2:20).

If you have yet to be baptised in water, I advise you to do so as soon as you can. It is a confirmation that you have died with Christ and you are raised up to new life. Baptism signifies burial. What do you do when someone dies? You bury them!​

 

[JohnDB]

I kind of get what your saying but I've still got no reassurances because sin is sin so it's mostly all considered the same to God. And the Bible makes it clear that no-one is guaranteed a place in heaven because "many are called but only few are chosen" and "small is the gate that leads to life" and "many will try to enter and will not be able to."

And no-one told me or gave me the idea btw. It's just the thought that I had yesterday that all my devotion could ultimately come to nothing still. Like a university graduate with many degrees but still ends up unemployable and homeless for instance.

See?
This is the problem with not going to church and getting sound hermeneutic principles.

You have made some mistakes with your understanding of what was written. And it's so very easy to do even if it's in English because the Bible was written around 2,000 years ago in a caste based society on the other side of the planet in a very different language.

Let's start with the first scriptures Jesus said you are quoting because you missed the point of those scriptures.
Called vx Chosen.
Many are "called" and in this instance being "called" into service by God is something that happens with every believer. Every believer has a set of tasks and responsibilities to perform for God....these tasks were assigned by God for you to perform thousands of years ago by an omniscient and timeless God.
"Chosen" in this instance is referencing leadership of the "called". And in the passage that Jesus is using these terms he is telling the person who offered himself to become a disciple of Jesus's that the guy thought more highly of himself than Jesus did. Rejected as a leader of the followers but accepted as a follower himself. And then it's a question of faith. Did the guy only offer because he was going to be a leader or because he believed? If only for a leadership position then he is rejected as a simple believer. And if he becomes a simple follower/believer....he may never see a leadership position.

The "narrow gate" stuff is more about those who live in a city knowing all the back roads and paths.


So....you need to go to a church on a regular basis.
Lord's Prayer....
I'm sure you know it.
What is the very first word?
In that word is also a lesson.
"Our"....as in one person speaking for a collective group. As in the obvious conclusion is to not do it alone. (Which you obviously have been)

And this is a much more plainly stated directive by Jesus to definitely "must do" than your "not cussing" thing.....
It's also easier to "love thy neighbor" when you find some fellow Christian's friends you can call neighbors. (Not a modern "neighbors" thought process but as a fellow believer "neighbor"l

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Do you really think that a person is self centered just because they want to know 100% whether they will go to heaven or not? and that they would likely not make it to heaven?

Where in the Bible does it say this or give that impression?

Do you remember the video I shared on page 1?

It sounds like you might have a question.
I'm happy to help because the Bible provides promises that we can be confident in.

 

[amazingrace]

Righteous living is the result of being born again. It is possible to be saved and yet live in gross sin. It is obviously no acceptable, but that is not the issue. For example, Paul rebuked the Corinthians for tolerating someone sleeping with his father's wife. It is probable that it was his stepmother. Even the gentiles disapproved. Such sin brings the church into disrepute. As an aside, it's a shame that more churches fail to discipline those who commit gross sin.

And that is the way believers should be treated. The man repented and was restored to fellowship. That is the intent, so as to protect the church and to convict God's people of unacceptable behaviour.

We can only live righteously as we allow Lord Jesus to live in us and through us. That is a choice that we make.

Yes, the blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin, as long as we walk in the light. Cleansing is required because we still can sin. Anyone who thinks that they quit sinning the moment they are saved is kidding themselves.

Believers need to start from the right premise. We are already righteous and holy in Christ. We are already forgiven. We are new creations, crucified with Christ and raised from the dead with Him. We are partakers of the divine nature. Heaven is our home, not our destination. We then need to live in the light of the great salvation that Lord Jesus bought for us with His life.

Too many Christians act as if they have to achieve righteousness and holiness by self effort. Some of us learn that there is no power in self to live the life that pleases God. Paul recounts his battle in Romans 7. The answer is not to try harder or go through religious gymnastics to force self to comply to God's demands. The answer is Christ.

Paul starts off the letter to the Ephesians telling them the wonderful truths of what God has done for us in Christ. Only then does he tell us how that should inform how we live. If all we do is try to follow Paul's instructions apart from Christ, we will fail.

How many believers can truly love their enemies? It is impossible - for us apart from Christ. Jesus died for those who put Him to death. There is no greater love. What would prefer? To love with the love of Jesus or grit your teeth and try to love that neighbour who hates you?​

I don't see where we have eternal salvation in this life, we have the full redemption accomplished by Christ and the gift of the grace of justification with the promise of eternal salvation in glory to those who are faithful to Christ and grace.

Jn 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

gal 5:4 fallen not from eternal salvation but from grace

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace issufficient for thee: for my strength ismade perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

and scripture says we can do it!

phil 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

rev 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

thks

 

[Gideon300]

I don't see where we have eternal salvation in this life, we have the full redemption accomplished by Christ and the gift of the grace of justification with the promise of eternal salvation in glory to those who are faithful to Christ and grace.

Jn 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

gal 5:4 fallen not from eternal salvation but from grace

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace issufficient for thee: for my strength ismade perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

and scripture says we can do it!

phil 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

rev 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

thks

You should try discovering what salvation actually means. Do you know what it means to be born again?

 

[amazingrace]

Trust in the shed blood of Jesus for your salvation and not your attempts to live righteously.

both!

Lk 1:75
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

acts 10:35
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

apart from Christ? nothing!
Jn 15:5

with Christ? all things! phil 4:13

Christ does not do it all for us, He enables us to do it with Him by the power of grace!

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace issufficient for thee: for my strength ismade perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

2 Corinthians 9:8
And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

1 pet 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Jn 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

thks


thks

 

[seymourclear]

He tells you He is there. Why do you need to feel something. It is more blessed to believe Him without sensing Him, because then you don’t need a feeling again and again to get reassured again and again, losing assurance when the feeling goes.

The reason I need to feel something is because i was forced to leave my old life with God's help, and during the process I lost my earthly elderly father who sadly passed away because I wasn't able to be there to look after him. So I suppose what I want partially is for God to fill that void because He's a personal God so I want to have a personal relationship with Him rather than just being sent letters and messages through His writings.

Many adopted children want to meet their parents so it's no difference me wanting to meet my heavenly Father or any of His Triune characters. I don't think that's to much to ask for really considering I haven't ever had an actual spiritual experience with Him at all before or after being baptised and yet I still believe in him 100%.

Also, I was attacked by demons a few years ago and was put in hospital as a result. Obviously that was different but even then I went to a church a week later for relief because the constant attacks, hallucinations and demonic activity nearly drove me insane, but Id previously studied demonology so I recognised what was actually happening rather than assuming it was late stage schizophrenia (because i was around 43 then).

My point is, demons manifested themselves to me visually, and spoke to me and even physically attacked me so I know that God can appear to me if He wants to like He did for Paul on the road to Damascus, or even to people who have had NDE's (near death experiences). And Im not even saying that I expect him to necessarily appear to me. I just want to have a spiritual experience that I know is from Him.

He already convinced me to turn my life around and follow him so I just want him to interact with me so I don't feel like I'm dealing with this on my own, because once you know He's real and want to live according to His teachings it's hard to communicate with most worldly people that don't know the truth about our reality so life can become a very lonely place, because most people think your nuts if you believe in God let alone Christ.

I wouldn't expect God to appear to me over and over, again, it's not like that. Just one true encounter with Him would be satisfy my craving. But even if He doesn't I will still believe in Him and have faith, because of the evidence of His life and what He has done in mine also. Do you honestly think that this is too much to ask for?

 

[seymourclear]

That depends on whether or not you want to prolong your stay in hell.

If we go to hell, we're there permanently so what do you mean exactly?

 

[Chester]

The reason I need to feel something is because i was forced to leave my old life with God's help, and during the process I lost my earthly elderly father who sadly passed away because I wasn't able to be there to look after him. So I suppose what I want partially is for God to fill that void because He's a personal God so I want to have a personal relationship with Him rather than just being sent letters and messages through His writings.

Many adopted children want to meet their parents so it's no difference me wanting to meet my heavenly Father or any of His Triune characters. I don't think that's to much to ask for really considering I haven't ever had an actual spiritual experience with Him at all before or after being baptised and yet I still believe in him 100%.

Also, I was attacked by demons a few years ago and was put in hospital as a result. Obviously that was different but even then I went to a church a week later for relief because the constant attacks, hallucinations and demonic activity nearly drove me insane, but Id previously studied demonology so I recognised what was actually happening rather than assuming it was late stage schizophrenia (because i was around 43 then).

My point is, demons manifested themselves to me visually, and spoke to me and even physically attacked me so I know that God can appear to me if He wants to like He did for Paul on the road to Damascus, or even to people who have had NDE's (near death experiences). And Im not even saying that I expect him to necessarily appear to me. I just want to have a spiritual experience that I know is from Him.

He already convinced me to turn my life around and follow him so I just want him to interact with me so I don't feel like I'm dealing with this on my own, because once you know He's real and want to live according to His teachings it's hard to communicate with most worldly people that don't know the truth about our reality so life can become a very lonely place, because most people think your nuts if you believe in God let alone Christ.

I wouldn't expect God to appear to me over and over, again, it's not like that. Just one true encounter with Him would be satisfy my craving. But even if He doesn't I will still believe in Him and have faith, because of the evidence of His life and what He has done in mine also. Do you honestly think that this is too much to ask for?

I get it that you would like God to manifest Himself to you clearly: and if He is able to do that you ask - and you are sincere - why will He not do it just once?

Here is the issue: God has already clearly manifested Himself to you - by means of the design, complexity, and beauty of the created world. For example, just take a walk in a park or wooded area, and note the diverse species of birds, insects, and even the diversity and complexity of trees and grasses. Anyone who believes a random explosion millions of years ago was the source of what you see is simply not thinking. The laws of science are in direct contradiction to the supposed "evolution' of living things. Something did not come out of nothing. Life did not come from nonlife. Complexity and design did not come from simplicity (single cell), and consciousness did not just suddenly appear.

Romans 1:20: "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."

Look at what God has created: He is REAL and ALIVE. And then read His WORD. That is all you need to know God and then to live for Him in His kingdom. Then find a group of believers you can fellowship with: then you will be LIVING!

 

[GWH]

Although swearing and smoking are not good things, having problems with them won't keep you from heaven, and not doing them won't get you to heaven. Being saved and going to heaven is not about what we do or don't do, but about what Jesus Christ has done. That's why He is called the Saviour. He was crucified and rose again to enable those who believe in Him to go to heaven. If they could get there themselves by not smoking or swearing, and things like that, why did He bother? He said:

(Joh 6:47 NKJV) Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.

"He who believes in Me," not "He who gives up things like smoking and swearing."

The basis of divine judgment is not what we do but rather whom we love per John 8:42-44.

 

[GWH]

If we go to hell, we're there permanently so what do you mean exactly?

I mean what Paul taught: we will reap what we sow, so he who sows much will reap more. Satan will reap the most.

 

[GWH]

The reason I need to feel something is because i was forced to leave my old life with God's help, and during the process I lost my earthly elderly father who sadly passed away because I wasn't able to be there to look after him. So I suppose what I want partially is for God to fill that void because He's a personal God so I want to have a personal relationship with Him rather than just being sent letters and messages through His writings.

Many adopted children want to meet their parents so it's no difference me wanting to meet my heavenly Father or any of His Triune characters. I don't think that's to much to ask for really considering I haven't ever had an actual spiritual experience with Him at all before or after being baptised and yet I still believe in him 100%.

Also, I was attacked by demons a few years ago and was put in hospital as a result. Obviously that was different but even then I went to a church a week later for relief because the constant attacks, hallucinations and demonic activity nearly drove me insane, but Id previously studied demonology so I recognised what was actually happening rather than assuming it was late stage schizophrenia (because i was around 43 then).

My point is, demons manifested themselves to me visually, and spoke to me and even physically attacked me so I know that God can appear to me if He wants to like He did for Paul on the road to Damascus, or even to people who have had NDE's (near death experiences). And Im not even saying that I expect him to necessarily appear to me. I just want to have a spiritual experience that I know is from Him.

He already convinced me to turn my life around and follow him so I just want him to interact with me so I don't feel like I'm dealing with this on my own, because once you know He's real and want to live according to His teachings it's hard to communicate with most worldly people that don't know the truth about our reality so life can become a very lonely place, because most people think your nuts if you believe in God let alone Christ.

I wouldn't expect God to appear to me over and over, again, it's not like that. Just one true encounter with Him would be satisfy my craving. But even if He doesn't I will still believe in Him and have faith, because of the evidence of His life and what He has done in mine also. Do you honestly think that this is too much to ask for?

You need to realize that words from Jesus are not just letters and messages but the Spirit personally communicated.

 

[seymourclear]

you said you were baptized but didn't say if you are a born again Christian. if you are not born again, become a born again Christian immediately!

What do you mean exactly? I thought being baptised was being born again. Do you mean being baptised with the Holy Spirit? If so, nothing miraculous has happened to me yet. That's basically what I was hoping would happen.

 

[Inquisitor]

I don't see where we have eternal salvation in this life

So you must be in opposition to what Paul wrote below.

Romans 10:9-13
That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead,
you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses,
resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.” For there is no distinction
between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for
“Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Some how you have inserted your own works (obedience) into that free gift of salvation.

Which means if you persist at some unknown level of obedience you will be saved?

Your salvation equation is shown below.

Jesus plus my obedience = salvation?

Not sure how you were taught a corrupted version of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

You may be a Catholic that is whipping yourself with a branch to stop yourself sinning.

If you doing that keep going because you may, in fact, end up becoming perfect!

Matthew 5:48
Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

See Jesus said that.

Problem is Jesus was not talking about your perfection but His perfect righteousness which you receive as a gift.

Romans 5:17
"For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive
God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!"

2 Corinthians 9:15
Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!

 

[Inquisitor]

What do you mean exactly? I thought being baptised was being born again. Do you mean being baptised with the Holy Spirit? If so, nothing miraculous has happened to me yet. That's basically what I was hoping would happen.

It's not about the baptism of John with water.

Matthew 3:11
As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not
fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Luke 3:16
John answered and said to them all, “As for me, I baptize you with water; but One is coming who is mightier than I,
and I am not fit to untie the thong of His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Can you see that the gospel of John the Baptist was merely repentance and a wash.

But the fulfillment of that water baptism was the Spiritual Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Spiritual baptism, or the baptism of the Holy Spirit, is the act by which the Holy Spirit places a believer into union
with Christ and the church. Distinct from water baptism, it is an inward transformation that signifies being born again,
united in Christ's death and resurrection, and empowered for faith.

Why did historical Christianity become obsessed with everything external and not spiritual?

 

[seymourclear]

A person will know if they are saved if they examine themselves.

I don't think it's a good idea to judge my own righteousness. As the scriptures say:

"There are those who are pure in their own eyes and yet are not cleansed of their filth." Proverbs 30:12

And

"Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness." Romans 10:3

And since I already know the righteousness of God and know that swearing is sinful but still continue to (even unconsciously) then surely I'd be deceiving myself by brushing it off as no big deal right? especially if its that sin alone that causes God to bar my entrance into heaven.

 

[amazingrace]

So you must be in opposition to what Paul wrote below.

Romans 10:9-13
That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead,
you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses,
resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.” For there is no distinction
between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for
“Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Some how you have inserted your own works (obedience) into that free gift of salvation.

Which means if you persist at some unknown level of obedience you will be saved?

Your salvation equation is shown below.

Jesus plus my obedience = salvation?

Not sure how you were taught a corrupted version of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

You may be a Catholic that is whipping yourself with a branch to stop yourself sinning.

If you doing that keep going because you may, in fact, end up becoming perfect!

Matthew 5:48
Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

See Jesus said that.

Problem is Jesus was not talking about your perfection but His perfect righteousness which you receive as a gift.

Romans 5:17
"For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive
God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!"

2 Corinthians 9:15
Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!

I believe Christ accomplished the general redemption apart from us and our participation, then we receive the free gift of the grace of Justification, grace not eternal salvation in glory, after this we must participate in sanctification and perseverance, faithful to the end, then death, judgment and those who are found faithful then unto eternal salvation!

thks

We have union by grace not eternal salvation!

Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

we do not have eternal salvation

Mk 10:30 mk 13:13 mt 24:13 rev 2:10

we have the grace of justification

grace can be increased by good works mt 7:7 mt 7:14 mt 26:41
2 pet 3:18

grace enables good works
2 cor 12:9

5mgrace can be lost by sin

Eph 5:2-6
gal 5:1-4
gal 5:19-21
gal 6:7-8
1 cor 6:9-10 & 15-20
2 cor 4:7
1 tim 5:12
rev 21:8
rev 21:27
rom 8:1
can lose grace gal 5:4
can have grace in vain 1 cor 15:10
treasure in earthen vessels 2 cor 4:7

must be faithful and righteous

grace is the life of God, Christ shares with us

2 Corinthians 9:8
And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

1 pet 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Lk 1:75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

Romans 2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
(eternal salvation)

 

[amazingrace]

So you must be in opposition to what Paul wrote below.

Romans 10:9-13
That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead,
you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses,
resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.” For there is no distinction
between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for
“Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Some how you have inserted your own works (obedience) into that free gift of salvation.

Which means if you persist at some unknown level of obedience you will be saved?

Your salvation equation is shown below.

Jesus plus my obedience = salvation?

Not sure how you were taught a corrupted version of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

You may be a Catholic that is whipping yourself with a branch to stop yourself sinning.

If you doing that keep going because you may, in fact, end up becoming perfect!

Matthew 5:48
Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

See Jesus said that.

Problem is Jesus was not talking about your perfection but His perfect righteousness which you receive as a gift.

Romans 5:17
"For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive
God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!"

2 Corinthians 9:15
Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!

yes it says "you shall be saved" but it does not say or imply instant salvation we still must continue to believe and confess

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

we don't have eternal salvation because of a momentary and microscopic act of faith!

thks

Promise of future eternal salvation!

Our Inheritance!

Psalm 37:18
The Lord knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.

mk 10:30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. (salvation)


Acts 20:32
And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

Galatians 3:18
For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

Ephesians 1:14
Which is the earnest (promise) of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 1:18
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

Ephesians 5:5
For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Colossians 1:12
Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

Colossians 3:24
Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.

heb 9:15
And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
(eternal salvation)


1 Peter 1:4
To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

Here and now we have the Grace of God with the promise of eternal salvation to come! Amen!