Right. I have told you several times, this thread isnt about the doings of man, yet you still harass me about man doing
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1 Peter 2 v 7-8 To you who believe, then, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,” and, “A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they disobey the word- and to this they were appointed.
It does exactly the opposite. It establishes the necessity of grace.
Just as in Romans 1:16, the power of God is necessary for belief, and is only effectual to those who believe.
That's exactly what He is saying. If God doesn't act, no one will be saved.
Nope. He is blessed because His understanding came as a result of the revelation of the Father. And the rock being built upon is this revelation of the Father; by it, Jesus builds His church.
Yes if one employs the no-rules eisegiesis, where I can make every verse say what I want it to say.
The meaning that Paul is delivering is actually pretty evident in the better translations, but see this is what happens when one blinds themselves with false doctrine.
There are certain topics, like this one, that get rehashed continuously on a discussion board. To what end?
Really?
Those who know,don't need what they know reiterated by their peers.
Those who do not know will never come to the understanding through human argument,debate,and reason. Awakening is through God's choice alone.
Really?
Those who know,don't need what they know reiterated by their peers.
Those who do not know will never come to the understanding through human argument,debate,and reason. Awakening is through God's choice alone.
Wow... "he has used our foolish preaching".. it does not state anything about grace.
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Hebrews 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Its Bible101
It literally says that it pleased God to save. Salvation is by grace.
Yes best to avoid false man invented doctrine it distort everything.
Good advice... no point, it will take an act of God, best to not fall into the false doctrine ditch.
It pleased God to use foolishness as opposed to wisdom,
The people believed in the message although it was foolish and because they believed God saved them!
Beyond belief really!!
And yet the FW claim is that they were free before being set free.
That everyone is.
Aren't all those verses referring to what God is doing? In other words, all speak to God exercising His power to effect change in/on/through individuals?
Wow.
It pleased God to save. It pleased God to exercise His power on behalf of individuals.
How? He employs preaching the word.
No different than Ephesians 2...for by grace are we saved through faith.
I know. There are NO verses on the free will of the natural man.
I have said this many times. He is enslaved to sin.
And two verses were about being set free, and being in bondage.
Those do have to do with the will of the natural man. He is not free and must be set free.
We can not have eternal life without God - its either death or life. As humans we do not have immortality without God. Everything else you are reading into the verses.
We can't have anything apart from God. Everything we have has been given to us. Except, it seems, salvation.
How is it that a Christian can do nothing apart from Christ, but an unsaved person can do things apart from Christ?
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