Was Mary Sinless?

[Genez]

I wasn't posting to you in the first place. I know full well what euphemism means.

You do not know what you are doing.

 

[bytheblood]

You do not know what you are doing.

I know what I'm posting, truth.

 

[Genez]

I know what I'm posting, truth.

Sorry sir..... Some would call that being delusional.

If I ever got to see who you are as a person it might help explain why you have been such a problem to reason with here in this format.
You are not acting like someone I would like to meet and know. And, what I just posted, is truth.

 

[sawdust]

Again, spirits don't die, they are eternal. Mans spirit " goes up ", that's what the Bible says. " But Sihon king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him: for the Lord thy God hardened his SPIRIT, and made his heart obstinate, that he might deliver him into thy hand." Deut. 2:30. " And Hannah answered and said, No, my lord, I am a woman of a sorrowful SPIRIT: I have drunk neither wine nor strong drink, but have poured out my SOUL before the Lord." 1 Sam. 1:15. "And the God of Israel stirred up the SPIRIT of Pul king of Assyria, and the SPIRIT of Tilgathpilneser king of Assyria, and He carried them away, even the Reubanites, and the Gadites, and the half tribe of Manasseh, and brought them unto Halah, and Habor, and Hara, and to the river Gozan, unto this day." 1 Chron 5:26. These are just a few examples of man, righteous AND unrighteous, having spirits and souls, in the Old Covenant. There are many more, but if you want to keep believing what the Bible doesn't say, have at it.

You are the one who says they are dead and not working properly, I say they are non-existent until one is born. So the dead spirits return to God. I'm sure he will be pleased to receive them.

And I see you still can't understand the usage of spirit within context. Maybe you have a dull spirit and that is why?

Why didn't you use both?

Both what? Context demands breath for the body needs breath to stay alive. Simple stuff mate.

 

[Genez]

You are the one who says they are dead and not working properly, I say they are non-existent until one is born. So the dead spirits return to God. I'm sure he will be pleased to receive them.

And I see you still can't understand the usage of spirit within context. Maybe you have a dull spirit and that is why?



Both what? Context demands breath for the body needs breath to stay alive. Simple stuff mate.

It is sad....

 

[DavidLamb]

The only thing you have cleaned up is the fact that you don't know WHAT you are. Thanks! BTW, isn't spirit also a euphemism for pneuma? If so, and it is, why didn't you use both? Oh, it's YOU who can't see past one meaning. SMH. P.S. What is sawdust good for after absorbing up liquid waste, except the waste basket?

Surely that isn't a euphemism. I always thought that a euphemism is when we use a mild or polite word or phrase instead of one that might be seen as harsh, or rude, as when people talk about sin as "mistakes", death as "passing away," or a bastard as someone "born on the wrong side of the blanket." Surely neither the English word "spirit" nor the Greek word "pneuma" are harsh or rude, so how can one be a euphemism for the other? Surely as one is in NT Greek and the other English, "spirit" is a translation, not a euphemism. Am I mistaken in my understanding of "euphemism?"

 

[Genez]

I'm not conflating anything, that's why I used a capital S and a small s, differentiating between the two. Nicodemus needed his spirit to be" quickened " by the Holy Spirit and that couldn't happen until after the "death of the testator." Heb. 9:16, when the Holy Spirit was sent. " The spirit of man is often seen as the aspect(of man) that RECEIVES divine influence. The Holy Spirit "quickens" the inner being, AWAKENING spiritual life, regenerating the soul. AI generated. Mans spirit has to be in existence to receive divine influence. Awakening also means the spirit was in existence, but was " shapen in iniquity: and in sin did my mother conceive me." Psm. 51:5, thereby deadening it. Quicken Heb. 2421-khaw-yaw; a prim. root to live, whether lit. or fig.; causative to REVIVE: keep(leave, make) alive.... Greek 2227; to(RE) vitalize(lit. or fig.) :-- make alive, give life, quicken.

Just saw a good rule in another Christian forum.
You would not last there very long.

Here is what one rule is...

Avoid repetition – Reposting the same argument without responding to correction or Scripture ​

will be considered trolling.​

That's what you do.
You will say you do not.
Others here are my witness.

In Christ

 

[Genez]

Surely that isn't a euphemism. I always thought that a euphemism is when we use a mild or polite word or phrase instead of one that might be seen as harsh, or rude, as when people talk about sin as "mistakes", death as "passing away," or a bastard as someone "born on the wrong side of the blanket." Surely neither the English word "spirit" nor the Greek word "pneuma" are harsh or rude, so how can one be a euphemism for the other? Surely as one is in NT Greek and the other English, "spirit" is a translation, not a euphemism. Am I mistaken in my understanding of "euphemism?"

He just wants to use big words to look smart.
Trouble is... It back fires.

 

[bytheblood]

Well?

Here we go.

1 Sam. 1:15?

“Not so, my lord,” Hannah replied, “I am a woman who is deeply troubled. I have not been drinking wine or beer; I was pouring out my soul to the Lord.


1 Chronicles 5:26

So the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, that is, Tiglath-Pileser king of Assyria. He carried the Reubenites, the Gadites, and the half-tribe of Manasseh into captivity. He took them to Halah, Habor, Hara, and the river of Gozan to this day.

What has that got to do with a human spirit? You are the one who claims God brings to life our dead human spirit in salvation.
King Pul was not even close to being a believer.


Deuteronomy 2:30

But Sihon king of Heshbon refused to let us pass through. For the Lord your God had made his spirit stubborn and his heart obstinate in order to give him into your hands, as he has now done.

Again. That has nothing to do with the human spirit we have given us in salvation.

You are just looking up passages that contain the word spirit? You have no understanding as to what it means in those passages.

grace and peace ............

Plainly and simply, you just don't believe the Bible, if, in your opinion, it differs from your theology, " Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which you have delivered: and MANY such like things do ye." Mark 7:13.

 

[bytheblood]

Well?

Here we go.

1 Sam. 1:15?

“Not so, my lord,” Hannah replied, “I am a woman who is deeply troubled. I have not been drinking wine or beer; I was pouring out my soul to the Lord.


1 Chronicles 5:26

So the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, that is, Tiglath-Pileser king of Assyria. He carried the Reubenites, the Gadites, and the half-tribe of Manasseh into captivity. He took them to Halah, Habor, Hara, and the river of Gozan to this day.

What has that got to do with a human spirit? You are the one who claims God brings to life our dead human spirit in salvation.
King Pul was not even close to being a believer.


Deuteronomy 2:30

But Sihon king of Heshbon refused to let us pass through. For the Lord your God had made his spirit stubborn and his heart obstinate in order to give him into your hands, as he has now done.

Again. That has nothing to do with the human spirit we have given us in salvation.

You are just looking up passages that contain the word spirit? You have no understanding as to what it means in those passages.

grace and peace ............

I looked up passages of scripture that proved men and women possessed spirits. " King Pul was not even close to being a believer." But he had a spirit, and that's been my point all along, and you know it. ALL OF MANKIND IS BORN WITH A SPIRIT. Scripture says that Hannah, Sihon and Pul had spirits, the righteous and unrighteous. I can give further Biblical proof if need be. I have proven it, by scripture. Are you calling the inspired, written Word of God lies? Show some character, ": yea, let God be true but every man a liar;" Romans 3:3

 

[bytheblood]

He just wants to use big words to look smart.
Trouble is... It back fires.

I was responding to a post from Sawdust that said spirit was an euphemism. I asked why she didn't use both spirit AND pneuma, knowing full well that neither was an euphemism. If I don't know a word I look it up. Don't cherry pick.

 

[Genez]

Plainly and simply, you just don't believe the Bible, if, in your opinion, it differs from your theology, " Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which you have delivered: and MANY such like things do ye." Mark 7:13.

Well-trained by a wrong spirit that you are naturally sensitive to...

 

[bytheblood]

Just saw a good rule in another Christian forum.
You would not last there very long.

Here is what one rule is...

Avoid repetition – Reposting the same argument without responding to correction or Scripture ​

will be considered trolling.​

That's what you do.
You will say you do not.
Others here are my witness.

In Christ

I repost the argument, based on scripture, because you seem kind of slow or dull of hearing. Incidentally, it's a good thing that they don't use that rule in schools, that's how many learn, by repetition. Except, of course, you and your brilliant self. You can't correct what's not wrong.

 

[Genez]

I repost the argument, based on scripture, because you seem kind of slow or dull of hearing. Incidentally, it's a good thing that they don't use that rule in schools, that's how many learn, by repetition. Except, of course, you and your brilliant self. You can't correct what's not wrong.

I wish there were authority in this forum to deal with disruptive trolls.

 

[bytheblood]

Well-trained by a wrong spirit that you are sensitive to...

I have proven, scripturally, the man has a spirit before salvation. The Holy Spirit might be a wrong spirit to YOU, but to me He leads me into all truth.

 

[bytheblood]

I wish there were authority in this forum to deal with disruptive trolls.

Need MORE help GeNez?

 

[bytheblood]

I was responding to a post from Sawdust that said spirit was an euphemism. I asked why she didn't use both spirit AND pneuma, knowing full well that neither was an euphemism. If I don't know a word I look it up. Don't cherry pick.

P.S. Post # 2010

 

[bytheblood]

I was responding to a post from Sawdust that said spirit was an euphemism. I asked why she didn't use both spirit AND pneuma, knowing full well that neither was an euphemism. If I don't know a word I look it up. Don't cherry pick.

P.S. Correction, Sawdust said that pneuma was an euphemism, post #2010

 

[bytheblood]

I was responding to a post from Sawdust that said spirit was an euphemism. I asked why she didn't use both spirit AND pneuma, knowing full well that neither was an euphemism. If I don't know a word I look it up. Don't cherry pick.

P.S. Sawdust said that pneuma was an euphemism. Post #2010

He just wants to use big words to look smart.
Trouble is... It back fires.

You need to check how your girlfriend used it in #2010

 

[bytheblood]

You are the one who says they are dead and not working properly, I say they are non-existent until one is born. So the dead spirits return to God. I'm sure he will be pleased to receive them.

And I see you still can't understand the usage of spirit within context. Maybe you have a dull spirit and that is why?



Both what? Context demands breath for the body needs breath to stay alive. Simple stuff mate.

Again, I have never posted anything about a dead spirit. You keep posting that same LIE. It's a LIE because I have corrected you on this many times and you STILL insist on spreading that LIE. You are playing up to people and will go to any length, including telling LIES. A deceptive, lying, python spirit influences you. I hope you can get freed by the Son, so that you can be free indeed.