Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

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The writer is concerned with those who draw back to perdition and do not believe to the saving of the soul. Nothing is mentioned here about no longer being faithful or no longer being saved. Those who are saved are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. (Hebrews 10:10) For by one offering he has perfected forever them that are sanctified. (Hebrews 10:14)

One has to live out that sanctification, it is not automatic, but I know that is what you believe and the Letter to the Hebrews actually demonstrates this truth over and over again.

The saving of the soul is not justification... to be justified is to be spiritually reconnected to God, justified by accepting the righteousness of Christ Jesus.

God does not force the outward expression of sanctification, but he does chasten.
 
It is not they were not saved... I agree with Bible Gateway here, since we know the writer is encouraging the congregants to stay the course.

The "rest" mentioned here refers to the spiritual peace, salvation, and victorious life found in Jesus, which is compared to the Promised Land the ancient Israelites failed to enter. The passage encourages Christians to actively trust in God’s promises rather than relying on their own efforts to find true spiritual security
Why did the Israelites fail to enter the promised land? Jude 1:5 - Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe.
 
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Why did the Israelites fail to enter the promised land? Jude 1:5 - Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe.

Yes but that was under the old system.
I do not believe spiritual regeneration existed in the old system.
 
One has to live out that sanctification, it is not automatic, but I know that is what you believe and the Letter to the Hebrews actually demonstrates this truth over and over again.

The saving of the soul is not justification... to be justified is to be spiritually reconnected to God, justified by accepting the righteousness of Christ Jesus.

God does not force the outward expression of sanctification, but he does chasten.
If we are justified then we are saved (Romans 5:9) and if we are justified we will be glorified. (Romans 8:30)
 
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If we are justified then we are saved (Romans 5:9) and if we are justified we will be glorified. (Romans 8:30)

Yes, but the letters are written to keep the new believers on the path to the benefits of the saving of the soul .. they have been spiritually regenerated but they are weak, do not understand the benefits of resting in Christ Jesus and the writer is writing to them so that they will stay faithful for their own sake and for the sake of the building up of the new body of believers.


I think we need to remember a lot of this is new to them even though they had the scriptures.
 
In general, I see the lesson is to fear the risk in offending the Lord by worrying about making sure that your sins have been atoned.
In trying to "make sure" their sins are forgiven, those that go back to the temple system after having learned of Christ's offering are, at the least, sending a mixed message in regard to where their faith in that atonement actually lies. And they do this in fear, and casting the shadow of doubt, and so have not been perfected in love, for perfect love casts out all fear.
 
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26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, “Vengeance is mine; I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge his people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


Same as the title.. If this is how you read it, how do you reconcile what Paul describes as his on going struggle with sin in romans 7?

14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. 15 For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. 16 Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. 17 So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. 18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.

21 So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. 22 For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, 23 but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.

In the context of Hebrews, Paul isn't addressing sin as a general subject. He is addressing a specific sin: rejecting the idea that Jesus is the Christ, the coming one.
 
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We all willingly/deliberately sin at times. This is about those that have heard Christ came died for them and He is the only way.. they reject that and keep on willingly/deliberately sin. If we get stuck on sin that's all we see. Its not being sinless that gets one to heaven. That righteousness only comes by believing in trusting in Yeshua/Jesus Christ.

He was talking to Jewish believers that were facing persecution and were tempted to abandon Yeshua and to return to the Old Testament sacrificial system. So if they reject what Christ did then all that's left is judgement.
 
In general, I see the lesson is to fear the risk in offending the Lord by worrying about making sure that your sins have been atoned.
In trying to "make sure" their sins are forgiven, those that go back to the temple system after having learned of Christ's offering are, at the least, sending a mixed message in regard to where their faith in that atonement actually lies. And they do this in fear, and casting the shadow of doubt, and so have not been perfected in love, for perfect love casts out all fear.
I want to edit "...so have not been perfected (yet) in love (though perfect love does, and does so willingly, continue, in perfecting them) ..."

As perfect love begins working within them as the actively kernel in a mustard seed of faith.
 
I believe the scripture as written without adding such things as you would suggest I should read it as, "For with the heart man believes (he must work) into righteousness. And assenting (to work into righteousness) is made unto the soul."
No you don’t. Because if you did you would know that what was penned to you is truth. If it were not you would have shown the error rather than what you have done
 
No you don’t. Because if you did you would know that what was penned to you is truth. If it were not you would have shown the error rather than what you have done
I showed your error. So, take that ounce of correction and add it to your quart of whitewash paint.
 
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EVERY epistle was written to the church about what the church needed to remain in Christ. This group was being warned not to backslide & fall away into apostasy. We're in the last falling away now, & we need to be just as wary that we don't fall as well.
 
Why then is it in the NT if it isn't intended for all?

BTW There is no Jew or Gentile. We are all one in Christ and heirs according to the promise.
If we don't read the letter to the Hebrews in the context then, we will misunderstand this letter to the Hebrews.

Strictly speaking, the Hebrews were under the law of Moses and were receiving intense persecution and losing
sight of Jesus.

The author of Hebrews draws a direct comparison to the Mosaic Law in Numbers 15:30, where a sin committed
defiantly had no sacrifice to cover it. The text states that the penalty was death. Similarly, rejecting Christ's sacrifice
means there is no other sacrifice available to take away sins. Rejecting the only sacrifice, the text states;
"there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins".

This is not because God refuses to forgive, but because the person has consciously rejected the only valid sacrifice,
the blood of Jesus.
 
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If we don't read the letter to the Hebrews in the context then, we will misunderstand this letter to the Hebrews.

Strictly speaking, the Hebrews were under the law of Moses and were receiving intense persecution and losing
sight of Jesus.

The author of Hebrews draws a direct comparison to the Mosaic Law in Numbers 15:30, where a sin committed
defiantly had no sacrifice to cover it. The text states that the penalty was death. Similarly, rejecting Christ's sacrifice
means there is no other sacrifice available to take away sins.
Rejecting the only sacrifice, the text states;
"there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins".

This is not because God refuses to forgive, but because the person has consciously rejected the only valid sacrifice,
the blood of Jesus.
That sums it up. Hebrews 10:26 (AMP) - For if we go on willfully and deliberately sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice [to atone] for our sins [that is, no further offering to anticipate].
 
That sums it up. Hebrews 10:26 (AMP) - For if we go on willfully and deliberately sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice [to atone] for our sins [that is, no further offering to anticipate].

Yes, and 15 other Scriptures indicate that the primary sin manifested by outward sins is repudiating saving faith in Jesus as Lord.

Matt. 10:22, “All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.”
Rom. 11:22, “Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.”
1Cor. 15:2, “By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.”
Gal. 5:4, “You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.”
Col. 1:22-23, “But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel.”
2Thes. 1:4-5, “Therefore, among God’s churches we boast about your perseverance and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring. All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering.”
2Tim. 2:12, “If we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us;”
Heb. 3:6&14, “But Christ is faithful as a son over God’s house. And we are his house, if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast… We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.”
Heb. 6:4-6, “It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.” This passage indicates that apostasy may be viewed as total depravity or blasphemy against the HS (MT 12:31).
Heb. 10:26-36, “If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God… So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.”
Jam. 1:12, “Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.”
2Pet. 1:10-11, “Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”
2Pet. 2:20, “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.”
1John 2:24-25, “See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.”
Jude 21, “Keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.”
Rev. 2:10, “Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.”
 
If we don't read the letter to the Hebrews in the context then, we will misunderstand this letter to the Hebrews.

Strictly speaking, the Hebrews were under the law of Moses and were receiving intense persecution and losing
sight of Jesus.

The author of Hebrews draws a direct comparison to the Mosaic Law in Numbers 15:30, where a sin committed
defiantly had no sacrifice to cover it. The text states that the penalty was death. Similarly, rejecting Christ's sacrifice
means there is no other sacrifice available to take away sins. Rejecting the only sacrifice, the text states;
"there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins".

This is not because God refuses to forgive, but because the person has consciously rejected the only valid sacrifice,
the blood of Jesus.

Yes that is what the author is teaching making clear to the audience, however that does not mean the author had non-believers in view.
 
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You DO realize that reply prompts a question: how so different that Paul could not have utilized different amanuenses to write both?

Okay well I guess one can speculate.
In my opinion, I clearly read a very different writing style, different manner of expression and things explained differently.