Replacement theology? Yes or No.

[God-fearing]

Yeah I’ve read the gospel a time or two but why is this all about you asking questions ? Can you adress any of the scriptures that are saying what they say ?

Let me inquire to you a few questions about the scriptures

“The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭24:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Who had god made an everlasting covenant with ? Warning then of curses if they broke it ?

who is this that Israel’s prophet is talking about ? And who’s the end promised to ?

“I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name. I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; a people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; ……which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.

Behold, it is written before me: I will not keep silence, but will recompense, even recompense into their bosom, your iniquities, and the iniquities of your fathers together, saith the LORD, which have burned incense upon the mountains, and blasphemed me upon the hills: therefore will I measure their former work into their bosom.

…..But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number. Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.

And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name: that he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.

For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:1-3, 5-7, 9, 11-12, 15-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

May i ask why are you so insistent that this Israel we see today will not repent and receive Christ as there messiah.
Is any thing to hard for the Lord?
Have you and I as born again believers broken our covenant with the Lord? As Jesus said go and sin no more. Are we perfect as Jesus told us to be perfect as our father is perfect. I think the same thing could be said about the church we've received 7 letters about this.
We have false prophets, false teachers, idol worshipers even to the worshipers of believers under the name of Christianity.
We might say no these are not Christian but they are under the name of Christianity.
The wrath to come to evil doers does not point to one people's its pointing to those not found in Christ.
Jesus said such in the days of noah....but no one points out the fact that there were no jews or gentiles in his day.
Not knowing the population in Noah's day no fruit was harvested. So Noah remained on the earth until his purpose was fulfilled.

 

[OMC]

This is going to raise some eyebrows,,
The “1,000‑year reign” in Revelation 20 is not an earthly kingdom where Jesus rules from Jerusalem.
It is the heavenly reign of Christ and the martyrs that began at His ascension and ends when He returns in final judgment.
John says the ones reigning with Christ are “the souls of those who were beheaded”—souls, not resurrected bodies—which places the reign in heaven, not on the present earth.
The purpose of the millennium is not to run a geopolitical kingdom but to show that Christ’s rule continues throughout the church age while Satan’s power is restrained from deceiving the nations in the same way he once did.
It begins when Christ is exalted (Acts 2:33–36), continues as the gospel goes to the nations, and ends when Satan is released briefly before the final judgment.
As for the New Covenant, Scripture does not place its beginning at Christ’s return.
Hebrews 8–10 says the New Covenant is already in force, already written on hearts, already established by Christ’s blood, and already uniting Jew and Gentile into one body.
The return of Jesus does not start the New Covenant or inaugurate a 1,000‑year earthly kingdom; it ends the present age, destroys death, judges the wicked, and ushers in the new heavens and new earth. I have my helmet on so have it..

 

[Revelation1v8]

This is going to raise some eyebrows,,
The “1,000‑year reign” in Revelation 20 is not an earthly kingdom where Jesus rules from Jerusalem.
It is the heavenly reign of Christ and the martyrs that began at His ascension and ends when He returns in final judgment.
John says the ones reigning with Christ are “the souls of those who were beheaded”—souls, not resurrected bodies—which places the reign in heaven, not on the present earth.
The purpose of the millennium is not to run a geopolitical kingdom but to show that Christ’s rule continues throughout the church age while Satan’s power is restrained from deceiving the nations in the same way he once did.
It begins when Christ is exalted (Acts 2:33–36), continues as the gospel goes to the nations, and ends when Satan is released briefly before the final judgment.
As for the New Covenant, Scripture does not place its beginning at Christ’s return.
Hebrews 8–10 says the New Covenant is already in force, already written on hearts, already established by Christ’s blood, and already uniting Jew and Gentile into one body.
The return of Jesus does not start the New Covenant or inaugurate a 1,000‑year earthly kingdom; it ends the present age, destroys death, judges the wicked, and ushers in the new heavens and new earth. I have my helmet on so have it..

LOL! Here are my arrows...

1. If it's not an earthly kingdom, why are people still living, dying, and repopulating like the book of Isaiah shows us?
2. Why are people living well over a hundred years old and as long as a tree like Isaiah 65:20 &22 say? As well as Zechariah 8:4-6?
3. What's the point of the 1,000 years? Does Heaven end at the end of 1,000 years? The Bible says it is on EARTH for 1,000 years in Revelation 20.
4. While the New Covenant already exists, the Jews are not brought into it yet and will not be aware of it until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in according to Romans 11:25.

 

[OMC]

LOL! Here are my arrows...

1. If it's not an earthly kingdom, why are people still living, dying, and repopulating like the book of Isaiah shows us?
2. Why are people living well over a hundred years old and as long as a tree like Isaiah 65:20 &22 say? As well as Zechariah 8:4-6?
3. What's the point of the 1,000 years? Does Heaven end at the end of 1,000 years? The Bible says it is on EARTH for 1,000 years in Revelation 20.
4. While the New Covenant already exists, the Jews are not brought into it yet and will not be aware of it until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in according to Romans 11:25.

Isaiah 65 and Zechariah 8 are not describing a 1,000‑year earthly kingdom; they are describing the restored conditions of Israel after exile, using prophetic imagery that points forward to the final new‑creation reality, not a temporary millennium.
Revelation 20 never places the 1,000 years on earth—John explicitly says the ones reigning are “the souls of those who were beheaded,” which means the reign is in heaven, not in Jerusalem, and it lasts from Christ’s ascension until His return.
People living, dying, and repopulating in Isaiah are part of Isaiah’s prophetic idiom, not a literal description of a future age between Christ’s return and the new creation; the New Testament never places death, childbirth, or sin after Jesus returns.
Heaven does not “end” at the millennium; the millennium ends when Christ returns, destroys death, judges the wicked, and ushers in the new heavens and new earth of Revelation 21–22.
And Romans 11:25 does not say Jews enter the New Covenant after Jesus returns; Paul says their hardening lasts “until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in,” meaning their turning to Christ happens within this age, not in a future millennium.
The New Covenant is already active, already offered, already open, and already the only way anyone—Jew or Gentile—can be saved

 

[Revelation1v8]

Isaiah 65 and Zechariah 8 are not describing a 1,000‑year earthly kingdom; they are describing the restored conditions of Israel after exile, using prophetic imagery that points forward to the final new‑creation reality, not a temporary millennium.
Revelation 20 never places the 1,000 years on earth—John explicitly says the ones reigning are “the souls of those who were beheaded,” which means the reign is in heaven, not in Jerusalem, and it lasts from Christ’s ascension until His return.
People living, dying, and repopulating in Isaiah are part of Isaiah’s prophetic idiom, not a literal description of a future age between Christ’s return and the new creation; the New Testament never places death, childbirth, or sin after Jesus returns.
Heaven does not “end” at the millennium; the millennium ends when Christ returns, destroys death, judges the wicked, and ushers in the new heavens and new earth of Revelation 21–22.
And Romans 11:25 does not say Jews enter the New Covenant after Jesus returns; Paul says their hardening lasts “until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in,” meaning their turning to Christ happens within this age, not in a future millennium.
The New Covenant is already active, already offered, already open, and already the only way anyone—Jew or Gentile—can be saved

Revelation 20 never places the 1,000 years on earth

Yes, Revelation 20 places the 1,000 year reign on earth...

Revelation 20:7-9

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[OMC]

Yes, Revelation 20 places the 1,000 year reign on earth...

Revelation 20:7-9

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

you’re reading Revelation 20:7–9 as if it locates the millennium itself on earth, when the text only locates Satan’s post‑millennial rebellion on earth.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Isaiah 65 and Zechariah 8 are not describing a 1,000‑year earthly kingdom; they are describing the restored conditions of Israel after exile, using prophetic imagery that points forward to the final new‑creation reality, not a temporary millennium.
Revelation 20 never places the 1,000 years on earth—John explicitly says the ones reigning are “the souls of those who were beheaded,” which means the reign is in heaven, not in Jerusalem, and it lasts from Christ’s ascension until His return.
People living, dying, and repopulating in Isaiah are part of Isaiah’s prophetic idiom, not a literal description of a future age between Christ’s return and the new creation; the New Testament never places death, childbirth, or sin after Jesus returns.
Heaven does not “end” at the millennium; the millennium ends when Christ returns, destroys death, judges the wicked, and ushers in the new heavens and new earth of Revelation 21–22.
And Romans 11:25 does not say Jews enter the New Covenant after Jesus returns; Paul says their hardening lasts “until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in,” meaning their turning to Christ happens within this age, not in a future millennium.
The New Covenant is already active, already offered, already open, and already the only way anyone—Jew or Gentile—can be saved

If the Millennium ends when Christ returns, then you're talking about a period of total peace on the earth while Satan is bound to the Abyss before Jesus returns? I guess we'll have a long wait then, because we're not even close to experiencing earth without Satan's influence on it yet.

 

[Revelation1v8]

you’re reading Revelation 20:7–9 as if it locates the millennium itself on earth, when the text only locates Satan’s post‑millennial rebellion on earth.

Come on, OMC! Satan's post millennial rebellion includes trying to encompass the camp of the saints! Didn't you read verse 9?!

 

[OMC]

Come on, OMC! Satan's post millennial rebellion includes trying to encompass the camp of the saints! Didn't you read verse 9?!

you’re right to press verse 9—but notice what it proves and what it doesn’t.
Revelation 20:7–9 absolutely puts the camp of the saints and the beloved city on earth at the time of Satan’s final rebellion; I’m not denying that.
What I’m denying is that this earthly scene retroactively relocates the 1,000‑year reign from heaven to earth.
The structure is clear:
(1) 20:4—souls of martyrs reign with Christ (heavenly, disembodied);
(2) 20:5–6—the rest of the dead await resurrection;
(3) 20:7—the 1,000 years end;
(4) 20:8–9—Satan deceives earthly nations, they surround earthly saints, God destroys them.
The presence of saints on earth in verse 9 shows there is still a persecuted church at the end of the age; it does not say those saints have been reigning bodily on earth for 1,000 years. The reign is heavenly; the final assault is earthly.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Isaiah 65 and Zechariah 8 are not describing a 1,000‑year earthly kingdom; they are describing the restored conditions of Israel after exile, using prophetic imagery that points forward to the final new‑creation reality, not a temporary millennium.
Revelation 20 never places the 1,000 years on earth—John explicitly says the ones reigning are “the souls of those who were beheaded,” which means the reign is in heaven, not in Jerusalem, and it lasts from Christ’s ascension until His return.
People living, dying, and repopulating in Isaiah are part of Isaiah’s prophetic idiom, not a literal description of a future age between Christ’s return and the new creation; the New Testament never places death, childbirth, or sin after Jesus returns.
Heaven does not “end” at the millennium; the millennium ends when Christ returns, destroys death, judges the wicked, and ushers in the new heavens and new earth of Revelation 21–22.
And Romans 11:25 does not say Jews enter the New Covenant after Jesus returns; Paul says their hardening lasts “until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in,” meaning their turning to Christ happens within this age, not in a future millennium.
The New Covenant is already active, already offered, already open, and already the only way anyone—Jew or Gentile—can be saved

John explicitly says the ones reigning are “the souls of those who were beheaded,” which means the reign is in heaven, not in Jerusalem, and it lasts from Christ’s ascension until His return.

OMC, you act as though Jesus never walked the earth for 40 days after his resurrection. Plus, I believe verse 6 makes it clear that we've already reached the resurrection point after the souls have been beheaded.

Revelation 20:4-6

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[OMC]

OMC, you act as though Jesus never walked the earth for 40 days after his resurrection. Plus, I believe verse 6 makes it clear that we've already reached the resurrection point after the souls have been beheaded.

Revelation 20:4-6

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

When John says he sees “the souls of those who were beheaded” and that they lived and reigned with Christ for 1,000 years, he is describing a heavenly resurrection life, not an earthly kingdom; the word souls is decisive because John consistently distinguishes souls in heaven (Rev 6:9) from resurrected bodies on earth (Rev 20:11–15).

Verse 6 does not mean the resurrection has already happened in history—it means these martyrs participate in the first resurrection, which Revelation defines as the believer’s entrance into resurrection life with Christ before the final bodily resurrection.
Jesus’ 40 days on earth after His resurrection do not prove a 1,000‑year earthly kingdom; they prove He is the firstfruits of resurrection life, not the model of a millennial society.
The point of the millennium is the heavenly reign of Christ and His saints during the church age, while Satan’s ability to deceive the nations is restrained; it ends when Christ returns, raises the dead, judges the world, and brings the new creation.

Isaiah 65 and Zechariah 8 are prophetic images of post‑exilic restoration pointing forward to the final new creation, not literal descriptions of life after Jesus returns.
And Romans 11:25 says Israel’s hardening lasts until Gentile fullness in this age, not that Israel enters a new covenant after the Second Coming.
The reign is heavenly; the rebellion at the end is earthly; the resurrection is final; and the new creation follows immediately

 

[Revelation1v8]

you’re right to press verse 9—but notice what it proves and what it doesn’t.
Revelation 20:7–9 absolutely puts the camp of the saints and the beloved city on earth at the time of Satan’s final rebellion; I’m not denying that.
What I’m denying is that this earthly scene retroactively relocates the 1,000‑year reign from heaven to earth.
The structure is clear:
(1) 20:4—souls of martyrs reign with Christ (heavenly, disembodied);
(2) 20:5–6—the rest of the dead await resurrection;
(3) 20:7—the 1,000 years end;
(4) 20:8–9—Satan deceives earthly nations, they surround earthly saints, God destroys them.
The presence of saints on earth in verse 9 shows there is still a persecuted church at the end of the age; it does not say those saints have been reigning bodily on earth for 1,000 years. The reign is heavenly; the final assault is earthly.

You have confused me and yourself so much at this point, I can't make heads or tails out of it.

If the 1,000 year reign is in heaven, why would we have the Great White Throne Judgement after everyone that's meant to be saved is already in Heaven?! Why would we even NEED a 1,000 year of peace if everyone was already in Heaven? That makes absolutely no sense.

The reason Satan tries to deceive earthly nations is because there will still be people living, dying, and repopulating on earth like Isaiah says.

 

[Beekeeper]

Here is a strict division for you:

The unique one and only mystery gentile Bride Church begins at Pentecost and ends at the Rapture.
God's counter has topped up, that ORDER/RANK has been completed.

Rom 11:25
For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

Actually what began at Pentecost could not be described as a "Gentile church", because that was the day that 3000 Jewish men were saved in Jerusalem.
Hebrews 8:8 also describes your "Gentile Church" as a "new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".

 

[Revelation1v8]

When John says he sees “the souls of those who were beheaded” and that they lived and reigned with Christ for 1,000 years, he is describing a heavenly resurrection life, not an earthly kingdom; the word souls is decisive because John consistently distinguishes souls in heaven (Rev 6:9) from resurrected bodies on earth (Rev 20:11–15).

Verse 6 does not mean the resurrection has already happened in history—it means these martyrs participate in the first resurrection, which Revelation defines as the believer’s entrance into resurrection life with Christ before the final bodily resurrection.
Jesus’ 40 days on earth after His resurrection do not prove a 1,000‑year earthly kingdom; they prove He is the firstfruits of resurrection life, not the model of a millennial society.
The point of the millennium is the heavenly reign of Christ and His saints during the church age, while Satan’s ability to deceive the nations is restrained; it ends when Christ returns, raises the dead, judges the world, and brings the new creation.

Isaiah 65 and Zechariah 8 are prophetic images of post‑exilic restoration pointing forward to the final new creation, not literal descriptions of life after Jesus returns.
And Romans 11:25 says Israel’s hardening lasts until Gentile fullness in this age, not that Israel enters a new covenant after the Second Coming.
The reign is heavenly; the rebellion at the end is earthly; the resurrection is final; and the new creation follows immediately

You just keep ignoring the fact that there will be 1,000 years of PEACE on EARTH because Satan is bound to the Abyss during that time before he is released again. If everyone was already in Heaven, there wouldn't be a need to hold Satan in the Abyss and God/Jesus would just thrown him straight into the Lake of Fire. But you ignore all of that in Revelation 20.

 

[OMC]

You have confused me and yourself so much at this point, I can't make heads or tails out of it.

If the 1,000 year reign is in heaven, why would we have the Great White Throne Judgement after everyone that's meant to be saved is already in Heaven?! Why would we even NEED a 1,000 year of peace if everyone was already in Heaven? That makes absolutely no sense.

The reason Satan tries to deceive earthly nations is because there will still be people living, dying, and repopulating on earth like Isaiah says.

Revelation 20 shows two different locations for two different moments:
the reign happens where John explicitly places it—among the souls of the martyrs in heaven (v.4)—
and the final rebellion happens on earth after the 1,000 years end (vv.7–9).

The fact that Satan surrounds “the camp of the saints” on earth in verse 9 proves only that the church is still present on earth at the end of the age; it does not relocate the 1,000‑year reign to earth.

The millennium is Christ’s present heavenly reign with His saints during the church age; the earthly rebellion is the last gasp of Satan when that reign reaches its appointed end.

The Great White Throne Judgment follows because the resurrection and final judgment happen after Christ returns, not during the millennium.

Isaiah’s imagery of long life and repopulation is prophetic restoration language, not a literal description of life after Jesus returns; the New Testament never places death or childbirth after the Second Coming.

Again, the reign is heavenly, the rebellion is earthly, the judgment is final, and the new creation follows immediately.

 

[Revelation1v8]

When John says he sees “the souls of those who were beheaded” and that they lived and reigned with Christ for 1,000 years, he is describing a heavenly resurrection life, not an earthly kingdom; the word souls is decisive because John consistently distinguishes souls in heaven (Rev 6:9) from resurrected bodies on earth (Rev 20:11–15).

Verse 6 does not mean the resurrection has already happened in history—it means these martyrs participate in the first resurrection, which Revelation defines as the believer’s entrance into resurrection life with Christ before the final bodily resurrection.
Jesus’ 40 days on earth after His resurrection do not prove a 1,000‑year earthly kingdom; they prove He is the firstfruits of resurrection life, not the model of a millennial society.
The point of the millennium is the heavenly reign of Christ and His saints during the church age, while Satan’s ability to deceive the nations is restrained; it ends when Christ returns, raises the dead, judges the world, and brings the new creation.

Isaiah 65 and Zechariah 8 are prophetic images of post‑exilic restoration pointing forward to the final new creation, not literal descriptions of life after Jesus returns.
And Romans 11:25 says Israel’s hardening lasts until Gentile fullness in this age, not that Israel enters a new covenant after the Second Coming.
The reign is heavenly; the rebellion at the end is earthly; the resurrection is final; and the new creation follows immediately

OMC, Jesus gives all souls their resurrected bodies at the time we return with Him. Don't make me have the conversation again about how Jesus returns with ALL of the saints and not just His angels. LOL!

 

[OMC]

OMC, Jesus gives all souls their resurrected bodies at the time we return with Him. Don't make me have the conversation again about how Jesus returns with ALL of the saints and not just His angels. LOL!

LOL, well, Yes—Jesus returns with all the saints, but that does not mean the saints have already received resurrected bodies before He descends.

Paul is explicit: the resurrection of the dead and the transformation of the living happen at His coming, not before it—“the dead in Christ shall rise first… then we who are alive… shall be caught up together with them” (1 Thess 4) and “we shall all be changed… at the last trumpet” (1 Cor 15).

That means the saints who return with Christ do so as perfected spirits, just as Hebrews 12:23 says, and they receive their resurrected bodies at the moment of His arrival, not during a 1,000‑year earthly kingdom

 

[Revelation1v8]

Revelation 20 shows two different locations for two different moments:
the reign happens where John explicitly places it—among the souls of the martyrs in heaven (v.4)—
and the final rebellion happens on earth after the 1,000 years end (vv.7–9).

The fact that Satan surrounds “the camp of the saints” on earth in verse 9 proves only that the church is still present on earth at the end of the age; it does not relocate the 1,000‑year reign to earth.

The millennium is Christ’s present heavenly reign with His saints during the church age; the earthly rebellion is the last gasp of Satan when that reign reaches its appointed end.

The Great White Throne Judgment follows because the resurrection and final judgment happen after Christ returns, not during the millennium.

Isaiah’s imagery of long life and repopulation is prophetic restoration language, not a literal description of life after Jesus returns; the New Testament never places death or childbirth after the Second Coming.

Again, the reign is heavenly, the rebellion is earthly, the judgment is final, and the new creation follows immediately.

No, the final Great White Throne Judgement doesn't happen immediately after Jesus' return. You totally left out the Sheep & Goat Judgement that takes place when Jesus returns to judge the nations. He comes first to judge the nations, reign for 1,000 years on earth with them, and has the Great White Throne Judgement after the 1,000 years over like Revelation 20 says.

 

[Revelation1v8]

LOL, well, Yes—Jesus returns with all the saints, but that does not mean the saints have already received resurrected bodies before He descends.

Paul is explicit: the resurrection of the dead and the transformation of the living happen at His coming, not before it—“the dead in Christ shall rise first… then we who are alive… shall be caught up together with them” (1 Thess 4) and “we shall all be changed… at the last trumpet” (1 Cor 15).

That means the saints who return with Christ do so as perfected spirits, just as Hebrews 12:23 says, and they receive their resurrected bodies at the moment of His arrival, not during a 1,000‑year earthly kingdom

Well, at least you haven't flipped flopped on that! I didn't mean to suggest that the resurrection happens before we return with Jesus, but that it will all take place at ultimately the same time and the blink of an eye. That's why the first resurrection is mentioned only 2 verses down from the one about those who are beheaded in the Great Tribulation. They will reign with Christ for 1,000 years.

Let me ask you another question. Are you suggesting that only those who make it through the Tribulation will be living on earth for 1,000 years of PEACE while the rest of us are all waiting in Heaven during that exact same time?

 

[OMC]

No, the final Great White Throne Judgement doesn't happen immediately after Jesus' return. You totally left out the Sheep & Goat Judgement that takes place when Jesus returns to judge the nations. He comes first to judge the nations, reign for 1,000 years on earth with them, and has the Great White Throne Judgement after the 1,000 years over like Revelation 20 says.

Matthew 25’s Sheep and Goats and Revelation 20’s Great White Throne are not two different, separated judgments—they are two angles on the same final judgment at Christ’s return.

In Matthew 25, the Son of Man comes, sits on His throne, all nations are gathered, and He separates them—eternal life vs eternal punishment—no 1,000‑year gap, no second chance, no ongoing mixed kingdom.

In Revelation 20, the same reality is shown apocalyptically:
Christ returns, the dead are raised, books are opened, and all are judged—then death and Hades are thrown into the lake of fire and the new creation follows immediately.

There is no text that says: “Jesus judges the nations, then reigns 1,000 years on earth, then judges again.”
That sequence is imported; the New Testament shows one climactic coming, one universal judgment, one eternal state.