The Noahide Laws

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ZIONISM UNMASKED: 'Anti-Semitic' - the Label that Stops Criticism

Dr. Paul Balles for Salem-News.com​

When you can’t criticise a propaganda machine for its promotions, both free speech and democracy are dead. ​

(BAHRAIN) - If you indulge in ad hominem attacks(attacking the person rather than the issue), you can expect the same in return. The issues related to the anti-Semitic label are many.​

First, the expression “anti-Semitic” is a misnomer. It’s defined as “hating Jews or Judeophobia.” The label “anti-Semitism” is wrong because not all Jews are Semites, and many Arabs are.​

In 2004, the US Congress passed the Global Anti-Semitism Review Act. The Act defines a person as being anti-Semitic for holding any of a number of beliefs. My comments follow each of the 14 items supposedly revealing anti-Semitism.​

1. Any assertion, “that the Jewish community controls government, the media, international business and the financial world.”​

According to this, it doesn’t matter whether the assertion is true or not. Truth is not an issue. Simply making such a statement violates the Act. In itself, that fact provides strong evidence of control of the US government.​

2. The expression of “Strong anti-Israel sentiment.”​

Any criticism of Israel can thus be considered anti-Semitic. Israel can mangle Gaza and get away with it.​

3. Expressing “Virulent criticism” of Israel’s leaders, past or present.​

Menachem Begin may have led the Irgun in the slaughter and dispossession of thousands of Palestinians, but it’s anti-Semitic to say so.​

4. Any criticism of the Jewish religion or its religious leaders with its emphasis on the Talmud and Kabbala.​

It’s perfectly acceptable, as free speech, to vilify Islam, but any criticism of Judaism violates the Act.​

5. Any criticism of the United States Government and Congress for being under the undue influence by the Jewish-Zionist community, which would include Jewish organizations such as AIPAC.​

Truth matters not to the ridiculous legislators who passed this ludicrous act.​

6. Any criticism of the Jewish-Zionist community for promoting globalism or what some call the “New World Order.”​

When you can’t criticise a propaganda machine for its promotions, both free speech and democracy are dead.​

7. Placing any blame on Jewish leaders and their followers for inciting the Roman crucifixion of Christ.​

In order to accommodate the anti-Semitism label, simply rewrite history.​

8. Citing any facts that could in any way diminish the “six million” figure of Jewish holocaust victims.​

I violate the act simply by citing the fact that five million non-Jews died at the hands of the Nazis. This goes beyond stifling free speech.​

9. Claiming that Israel is a racist state.​

That’s not a claim. It’s a fact. Israel is full of racist laws. It insists on preserving its racist character and its right to impose apartheid in the West Bank and Gaza.​

10. Making any claim that there is a “Zionist Conspiracy.” ​

A rational provision for such a claim would insist on evidence as proof of its validity. To disallow making such a claim is existentially (Israelis love that word) dictatorial.​

11. Offering proof that Jews and their leaders created Communism and the Bolshevik revolution in Russia.​

It just became illegal to offer proof. Minds are made up. Don’t confuse them with the facts.​

12. Making derogatory statements about Jewish persons.​

Why limit it to Jewish persons?​

13. Asserting that spiritually disobedient Jews do not have the Biblical right to re-occupy Palestine.​

Why limit it to the spiritually disobedient?​

14. Making any allegations of Mossad involvement in the 9/11 attack.​

I just did in a column published a week ago.​

The Act passed by the US Congress makes me anti-Semitic. It’s an unconstitutional violation of the First Amendment to the Constitution. I’m a critic of Israel when they commit wrongs and a critic of America when it does wrong. Despite Congress, that’s not anti-Semitic.​

http://endisraeliapartheid.blogspot.com/2011/04/zionism-unmasked-anti-semitic-label.html

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according to Congress, if you are a Christian who believes what the Bible says, by default and by Law you are antisemitic. so is your Bible.

7. Placing any blame on Jewish leaders and their followers for inciting the Roman crucifixion of Christ.​

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Stephen’s Sermon and Stoning
Acts 7 ESV​

​

red pill or blue pill?
one day soon you're going to have to decide.​

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

ZIONISM UNMASKED: 'Anti-Semitic' - the Label that Stops Criticism

Dr. Paul Balles for Salem-News.com​

When you can’t criticise a propaganda machine for its promotions, both free speech and democracy are dead. ​

(BAHRAIN) - If you indulge in ad hominem attacks(attacking the person rather than the issue), you can expect the same in return. The issues related to the anti-Semitic label are many.​

First, the expression “anti-Semitic” is a misnomer. It’s defined as “hating Jews or Judeophobia.” The label “anti-Semitism” is wrong because not all Jews are Semites, and many Arabs are.​

In 2004, the US Congress passed the Global Anti-Semitism Review Act. The Act defines a person as being anti-Semitic for holding any of a number of beliefs. My comments follow each of the 14 items supposedly revealing anti-Semitism.​

1. Any assertion, “that the Jewish community controls government, the media, international business and the financial world.”​

According to this, it doesn’t matter whether the assertion is true or not. Truth is not an issue. Simply making such a statement violates the Act. In itself, that fact provides strong evidence of control of the US government.​

2. The expression of “Strong anti-Israel sentiment.”​

Any criticism of Israel can thus be considered anti-Semitic. Israel can mangle Gaza and get away with it.​

3. Expressing “Virulent criticism” of Israel’s leaders, past or present.​

Menachem Begin may have led the Irgun in the slaughter and dispossession of thousands of Palestinians, but it’s anti-Semitic to say so.​

4. Any criticism of the Jewish religion or its religious leaders with its emphasis on the Talmud and Kabbala.​

It’s perfectly acceptable, as free speech, to vilify Islam, but any criticism of Judaism violates the Act.​

5. Any criticism of the United States Government and Congress for being under the undue influence by the Jewish-Zionist community, which would include Jewish organizations such as AIPAC.​

Truth matters not to the ridiculous legislators who passed this ludicrous act.​

6. Any criticism of the Jewish-Zionist community for promoting globalism or what some call the “New World Order.”​

When you can’t criticise a propaganda machine for its promotions, both free speech and democracy are dead.​

7. Placing any blame on Jewish leaders and their followers for inciting the Roman crucifixion of Christ.​

In order to accommodate the anti-Semitism label, simply rewrite history.​

8. Citing any facts that could in any way diminish the “six million” figure of Jewish holocaust victims.​

I violate the act simply by citing the fact that five million non-Jews died at the hands of the Nazis. This goes beyond stifling free speech.​

9. Claiming that Israel is a racist state.​

That’s not a claim. It’s a fact. Israel is full of racist laws. It insists on preserving its racist character and its right to impose apartheid in the West Bank and Gaza.​

10. Making any claim that there is a “Zionist Conspiracy.” ​

A rational provision for such a claim would insist on evidence as proof of its validity. To disallow making such a claim is existentially (Israelis love that word) dictatorial.​

11. Offering proof that Jews and their leaders created Communism and the Bolshevik revolution in Russia.​

It just became illegal to offer proof. Minds are made up. Don’t confuse them with the facts.​

12. Making derogatory statements about Jewish persons.​

Why limit it to Jewish persons?​

13. Asserting that spiritually disobedient Jews do not have the Biblical right to re-occupy Palestine.​

Why limit it to the spiritually disobedient?​

14. Making any allegations of Mossad involvement in the 9/11 attack.​

I just did in a column published a week ago.​

The Act passed by the US Congress makes me anti-Semitic. It’s an unconstitutional violation of the First Amendment to the Constitution. I’m a critic of Israel when they commit wrongs and a critic of America when it does wrong. Despite Congress, that’s not anti-Semitic.​

http://endisraeliapartheid.blogspot.com/2011/04/zionism-unmasked-anti-semitic-label.html

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according to Congress, if you are a Christian who believes what the Bible says, by default and by Law you are antisemitic. so is your Bible.

7. Placing any blame on Jewish leaders and their followers for inciting the Roman crucifixion of Christ.​

~​

Stephen’s Sermon and Stoning
Acts 7 ESV​

​

red pill or blue pill?
one day soon you're going to have to decide.​

RED PILL ROCKZ!!
BLUE PILL BITEZ!!

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!

 

[ada]

Audio: Christians Brother Nathanael(Ex Jew) and Mark Glenn talking about facts.

The Ugly Truth - It's Not Just Zionism 4-21-2010 : Mark Glenn : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
Listen if you mind..
Brother Nathanael is a long time street preacher and host of realzionistnews.com and his foundation,
and brother Mark Glenn a libanesion Christian and Father of 9 children from his host theuglytruth.wordpress.com.

 

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YES: Love wil find a way if you want it to​

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiD2HsMItnY[/video]

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

conspiracy theorists always pick the strangest most harmless things to latch onto...noachide laws...the federal reserve...FEMA...'dialectic'...airplane trails...hebrew bibles...

next we will be told that baby seals are part of a jewish communist plot to overthrow the constitution and kill christians...

 

[zone]

conspiracy theorists always pick the strangest most harmless things to latch onto...noachide laws...the federal reserve...FEMA...'dialectic'...airplane trails...hebrew bibles...

next we will be told that baby seals are part of a jewish communist plot to overthrow the constitution and kill christians...

November 10, 2001 - United Nations
G.W. Bush:

"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th"


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Rules for Radicals
Saul Alinsky
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5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."


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conspiracy theorists

most harmless things
noachide laws
the federal reserve
FEMA
dialectic
airplane trails
most harmless things

conspiracy theorists


i made note early on how skilled you are at this rachel.
you'll have do a little better though.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

November 10, 2001 - United Nations
G.W. Bush:

"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th"


~

Rules for Radicals
Saul Alinsky
​

5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."


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conspiracy theorists

most harmless things
noachide laws
the federal reserve
FEMA
dialectic
airplane trails
most harmless things

conspiracy theorists


i made note early on how skilled you are at this rachel.
you'll have do a little better though.

i don't have to do anything... unlike some people here i don't have any agenda...

anyway you already do a good job of making yourself look silly on your own by vilifying prohibitions against murder and idolatry and things like that...

 

[zone]

i don't have to do anything... unlike some people here i don't have any agenda...

anyway you already do a good job of making yourself look silly on your own by vilifying prohibitions against murder and idolatry and things like that...

you're very bright.
playing the conspiracy theorist card doesn't cut it for someone as intelligent as you. in fact there's no excuse for anybody anymore.

you clearly are familar with what The Noahide Laws are, and where they come from.

yet you call them harmless....and connect the buzzwords 'conspiracy theorist' with the list of real and present evil and dangers facing the world....then the standard absurd connection between baby seals and jewish plot.

interestingly, as usual, the facts are mingled with absurdity to discredit the facts and the messenger.

unfortunately that dialectic isn't working anymore. not for those of us who are sick of the charade, know what's going down....and actually believe the scriptures.

conspiracy theorists always pick the strangest most harmless things to latch onto...noachide laws...the federal reserve...FEMA...'dialectic'...airplane trails...hebrew bibles...

next we will be told that baby seals are part of a jewish communist plot to overthrow the constitution and kill christians...

the constitution's gone, and the rest is obvious. you can play nice with The Pharisees if you want to.

Matthew 10:33
But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.

Revelation 20:4
And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.


Seven Laws of Noah
Punishment
The Talmud laid down the statutory punishment for transgressing any one of the Seven Laws of Noah (but not other parts of the Noahide code) as capital punishment by decapitation, which is considered one of the lightest of the four modes of execution of criminals. According to some opinions, punishment is the same whether the individual transgresses with knowledge of the law or is ignorant of the law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah#Punishment


people can claim ignorance, or deliberatley remain ignorant, or bleat the "conspiracy theorist" pavlovian line all day long and they do: it doesn't change a thing about the facts.

for anyone who doesn't know yet, i recommend this as a place to start.
i wouldn't leave it too long.

The Orthodox Nationalist: Khazaria

July 28, 2011 · Print This Article

Matt Johnson discusses:

• The Khazar empire;
• Khazaria and the Talmud;
• Khazar economy based on slavery;
• The reason the Khazars converted to Talmudism;
• The reasons for the fall of Khazaria;
• Khazaria and Anti-Christ.

13 MB / 32 kbps mono / 0 hour 56 min.

http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110728/the-orthodox-nationalist-khazaria

Revelation 21:8
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

i believe the scriptures...i am just not twisting them to promote irrational hatred...

for example revelation 20:4...it was the romans who beheaded christians...not the jews...

but this is a typical cultist tactic...accusing your opponent of not believing the bible...when really i just am not buying into these distortions of the scriptures...

you also made use of another tactic of dishonest debating...changing the subject...by mentioning the khazar theory... this strategy is meant to inundate your opponent with so many claims that they just give up trying to refute them all...and then claim that any unrefuted claim is a fact... i have seen you do it here before...

finally there is the personal attack at the end where you insinuate that your opponents are cowards...

and you wonder why most christians here just ignore you and your ideas...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

personally i believe God is in control of history...you can go on believing some secret society of jews controls history if you want...

 

[Crossfire]

personally i believe God is in control of history...you can go on believing some secret society of jews controls history if you want...

Amen.

While I haven't read the entire thread, I have read enough to get the general idea.

I can completely understand how a Christian living in Israel would find this very disturbing. I would never take any oath that would force me to deny the divinity of Christ. However, in light of end time prophecy found in the Bible, I just don't see how anyone can consider this to be a precursor to one world government.

In my personal opinion, Shariah Law is a far greater threat considering how quickly Islam is spreading throughout western civilization.


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[zone]

i believe the scriptures...i am just not twisting them to promote irrational hatred...

for example revelation 20:4...it was the romans who beheaded christians...not the jews...

but this is a typical cultist tactic...accusing your opponent of not believing the bible...when really i just am not buying into these distortions of the scriptures...

you also made use of another tactic of dishonest debating...changing the subject...by mentioning the khazar theory... this strategy is meant to inundate your opponent with so many claims that they just give up trying to refute them all...and then claim that any unrefuted claim is a fact... i have seen you do it here before...

finally there is the personal attack at the end where you insinuate that your opponents are cowards...

and you wonder why most christians here just ignore you and your ideas...

the subject IS the Khazars.
and the Noahide Laws and the Talmud.

all facts.
you'd have to care enough to look though.
or maybe the truth is hidden from you.

 

[zone]

Amen.

While I haven't read the entire thread, I have read enough to get the general idea.

I can completely understand how a Christian living in Israel would find this very disturbing. I would never take any oath that would force me to deny the divinity of Christ. However, in light of end time prophecy found in the Bible, I just don't see how anyone can consider this to be a precursor to one world government.

In my personal opinion, Shariah Law is a far greater threat considering how quickly Islam is spreading throughout western civilization.

a christian living in israel should be disturbed?
oh my. acknowledge a one world system on the one hand, yet deny its in-your-face existence on the other. mkay.

one day spent researching mainline info on the founding of the UN would be easy enough.

these Laws aren't the precursor to one world government: they are the foundation of it.

but you'd have to spend a little more time than scanning this thread to "get the general idea".

and i suppose you'd have to know what Talmudic Judaism is.
and what Freemasonry's BIG SECRET has really been all this time.
you'd have to care enough.

sharia law? (rotflmho) islam is a daughter of talmudism.

FIND OUT WHO THIS MAN WAS: Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

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New Shluchim To The United Nations?


New Shluchim To The United Nations?
As the world watches in horror the happennings at the United Nations, where light and darkness switched places, ruthless terrorists receive recognition as statesmen and honorable leaders receive treatment as terrorists, something different happened in those halls: After five years of hard work two Chabad-run Noahide organizations were officially recgonized by the UN and authorized to roam the halls of the UN ● Full Story, Pictures
Shalom Abramowitz
5 Cheshvan 5772 (02.11.2011)

As the world watches in horror the happennings at the United Nations, where light and darkness switched places, ruthless terrorists receive recognition as statesmen and honorable leaders receive treatment as terrorists, something different happened in those halls.

Two Chabad-run Noahide organizations 7for70 directed by Rabbi Boaz Kalifrom Israel and Noahide.org - Home Page directed by Rabbi Yaakov Cohenhave received official recognition from the United Nations, and are authorized to work in the UN. This was the conclusion of a five-year process undertaken by Rabbi Cohen to push the organizations thru.

Their first official visit to the UN included participation in selecting the new judges for the International Criminal Court in The Hague. Rabbi Cohen asked the judges if the plan on judging with the fear of heaven, thus fulfilling one of the Seven Noahide laws.

The organizations are in the process of finding a permanent Shliach to the UN who will represent their organizations.

Noahide.org - New Shluchim To The United Nations?


UN NGO Reps Pledge to Follow Noahide Laws


Family of nations gathered in New York at a special gathering where Mr. Joop Theunissen, Deputy Chief of an important United Nations Non-Governmental Organization signed to keep the laws of Noah.
By David Yisraeli, Chabad Info
24 Tevet 5771 (31.12.2010)

A conference advocating for the acceptance and adherence to the Noahide Laws was held on December 22, 2010.

The event's title was “Unity, Youth and World Peace”. Presenters included Mr. Joop Theunissen from the United Nations Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), and Rabbi Yakov D. Cohen of the Institute of Noahide Code, who opened and moderated the conference.

More than 90 people attended this important event, many of whom expressed an interest in continuing this work.

Mr Joop Theunissen Deputy Chief of the NGO branch of ECOSOC signed a proclamation pledging to keep the Laws of Noah.

"Their observance is required, so that the vision of the United Nations – to have a settled and civilized world, in which economic justice and righteousness will prevail - can be fulfilled, with all of us working together in unison."

Noahide.org - UN NGO Reps Pledge to Follow Noahide Laws


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George Herbert Walker Bush
41st US President, CIA Director, CFR Director, Trilateralist, Yale Skull & Bones Society
(Skull & Bones nickname Magog)
1991 speech

"We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the rule of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the UN’s founders."

 

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Are Freemasons Really Noahides

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No.​

Noahides, or those who refer to themselves as such, follow the Noahide laws, generally within the Judaic tradition. These laws comprise prohibitions of idolatry, blasphemy, forbidden sexual relations, murder, theft, consuming the limb of a living animal (an expression of cruelty to animals) and lawlessness (that is to say, requiring the setting up of courts and processes of justice).​

There are rival philosophies concerning the Noahide laws. The classical orthodox Jewish tradition, as found in Maimonides, the Maharal of Prague and the writings of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, views the source of the authority of the Noahide laws as being the giving of the Torah at Sinai to Moses and therefore of concern only to the Jews.​

Elijah Benamozegh (1823-1900), author of Israel and Humanity, and Aime Palliere, author of The Unknown Sanctuary, promoted the idea of an "independent" tradition which goes back to Adam and Noah, and thereby to be transmitted to the Gentiles. The growth of late twentieth century Noahide movements has been a source of concern to some Christians who view the ramifications of this philosophy as an anti-Christian attack.​

These are religious discussions and therefore not of concern to Freemasonry. Freemasonry is not a religion.
Masonic author, Albert G. Mackey, defined Noachidae as the descendents of Noah; and Noachite as a reference to the legend "that Noah was the father and founder of the masonic system of theology." Mackey neglected to define or detail that theology. Regular Freemasonry has never had a theology and Mackey was simply expressing his own opinion.​

Mackey also wrote that the seven Precepts of Noah are preserved "as the Constitutions of our ancient Brethren"3 but neither the oldest extant manuscript, the Regius Poem, nor the Cooke manuscript mention any such precepts. He can only have been referring to Anderson’s second edition of his Constitutions, published in 1738.​

Non-masons, especially those hostile to Freemasonry, have been known to confuse references in masonic ritual to "the Moral Law," or "that religion in which all men agree" with the Precepts of Noah. Albert G. Mackey, in his History of Freemasonry, presented an historical background to the legends of Freemasonry but, in context, is clearly not ascribing the beliefs or practices of Judaism to those of Freemasonry.​

A legend of two pillars that survive the Deluge, containing the knowledge of the seven liberal arts and sciences, is contained in the "traditional history" of Freemasonry. The legend that Noah received seven commandments when God made His Covenant after the Flood is not a part of any extant pre-1717 manuscript. The sentiment that "all masons are true Noachidae" was part of "Brother Euclid’s Letter to the Author" included, with no historical authority, with the Rev. John Anderson’s 1738 Constitutions. The 1723 Constitutions contained the passage: "A Mason is obliged by his tenure to obey the moral law." In the 1736 edition Anderson completed the sentence with "as a true Noachida. 5 These references were dropped in the 1756 and subsequent editions, and have never played a role in the ritual or teachings of regular Freemasonry. Dermott’s unauthorized Ahiman Rezon copied Anderson’s 1736 edition and also used the term "Noachida."​

Anderson may have taken this idea from the Stonehouse MS., also titled the Krause MS., reproduced in Dr. Krause’s Three Oldest Documents. Probably written by a contemporary of Anderson and now accepted as spurious, it was first alleged to be a copy of the 926 York Constitutions.​

Freemasons were called Noachidae by some authors, generally in reference to the Scottish Rite degrees, in a poetical allusion to the preservation and transmission of great truths. But these truths are not defined as the Precepts of Noah.​

There is no connection between Noahides and Noachidae. One is a philosophy within Judaism, while the other is a poetical reference to Freemasonry and an eighteenth century attempt to create an older lineage.​

The question only has meaning if one assumes that Freemasonry is a religion. Freemasonry is not a religion and has no doctrine.​

http://free-masons.livejournal.com/18125.html

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[Crossfire]

Zone,

First, a couple of questions.

1. I'm assuming that you believe Zionism is the one world order?

2. Keeping in line with this thinking, I'm also assuming that you believe the Antichrist will be a Jew?

As I stated earlier, taking end time prophesy into consideration, I just do not see any scriptural evidence for this perspective. While I realize that yu are Ammillennial and that you believe we are currently residing in the millennial kingdom, the next event on your calendar should be the war of Gog & Magog which is to occur just before the end of the millenium when satan will be released for a little while to wreak havoc just before the Great White Throne Judgement. It seems to me that you are attempting to merge Gog & Magog with the events of Armageddon.

In both events, Israel appears to possess physical borders considering gentile forces rises up against the nation. of 'Israel', regardless of what your interpretation of Israel might be.

 

[Abiding]

same war

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Amen.

While I haven't read the entire thread, I have read enough to get the general idea.

I can completely understand how a Christian living in Israel would find this very disturbing. I would never take any oath that would force me to deny the divinity of Christ. However, in light of end time prophecy found in the Bible, I just don't see how anyone can consider this to be a precursor to one world government.

In my personal opinion, Shariah Law is a far greater threat considering how quickly Islam is spreading throughout western civilization.


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the noachide laws don't require anyone to deny the divinity of jesus...that is just a lie that anti semites are spreading to make people think jews are a real threat to christians...

read the laws themselves and the discussions of them in the talmud...not what conspiracy websites say about them...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Amen.

While I haven't read the entire thread, I have read enough to get the general idea.

I can completely understand how a Christian living in Israel would find this very disturbing. I would never take any oath that would force me to deny the divinity of Christ. However, in light of end time prophecy found in the Bible, I just don't see how anyone can consider this to be a precursor to one world government.

In my personal opinion, Shariah Law is a far greater threat considering how quickly Islam is spreading throughout western civilization.


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oh and the anti semites do not want you to be concerned about islamic radicalism or sharia... they follow the old eastern proverb 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'

radical muslims are extremely anti semitic...even subscribing to many of the same conspiracy theories as western anti semites do...

so western anti semites would prefer for everyone to just stand aside and let the radical muslims wipe out as many jews as possible...for example iran's threat a few days ago to kill a million israelis with missiles...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Zone,

First, a couple of questions.

1. I'm assuming that you believe Zionism is the one world order?

2. Keeping in line with this thinking, I'm also assuming that you believe the Antichrist will be a Jew?

As I stated earlier, taking end time prophesy into consideration, I just do not see any scriptural evidence for this perspective. While I realize that yu are Ammillennial and that you believe we are currently residing in the millennial kingdom, the next event on your calendar should be the war of Gog & Magog which is to occur just before the end of the millenium when satan will be released for a little while to wreak havoc just before the Great White Throne Judgement. It seems to me that you are attempting to merge Gog & Magog with the events of Armageddon.

In both events, Israel appears to possess physical borders considering gentile forces rises up against the nation. of 'Israel', regardless of what your interpretation of Israel might be.

from what i have seen...a lot of people who hold these views interchange israel and the church whenever it suits them...something like this...

when bible prophecy portrays israel in a positive light...they are the church...
when bible prophecy portrays israel negatively...they are the literal jewish israel...

sometimes they even follow an interpretation that looks like reverse replacement theology...and interpret biblical terminology normally referring to the church as referring to the literal jewish israel instead in cases where the prophetic depiction is negative

it all just seems arbitrary and inconsistent to me...

 

[ada]

Remember: Truth is not racist facts are not hate.​

By this time the present love affair of Christian evangelicals toward Zionism will have turned into bitter disillusionment.
The Sanhedrin has now largely finished the persecution of Christians it began 2,000 years ago in the book of Acts and is
“drunk with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus” (Rev. 17:6). The anti-Christ will "wear out" the saints (Daniel 7:21, 25, 8:24)
Descendants of today’s Israel-first evangelicals will be crying to God for vengeance against Israel (Rev. 18:6).

from DOES THE BIBLE PREDICT ISRAEL'S "NUCLEAR SHIELD?"​