Replacement theology? Yes or No.

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Despite your woeful and Biblically illiterate yearnings to the contrary, the New Testament posture toward heresy remains uncompromising.

Revelation 2:6 & 2:15–16 (Jesus Hates Heretical Doctrines)
"But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."
Jesus directly affirms the church at Ephesus for sharing His personal hatred toward the practices and teachings of a specific heretical sect (the Nicolaitans).

Galatians 1:8–9 (Pronouncing a Curse on Heretics)
"But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed [anathema]. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed."
Paul uses the strongest legal language available in the New Testament to damn any teacher, human or angelic, who distorts core Christian doctrine.

Titus 3:10–11 (Handling a Heretic)
"Reject a divisive man [Greek: hairetikon anthrōpon - a heretical man] after the first and second admonition, knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned."
The term heretic comes directly from this Greek text. The command is explicit: warn them twice, and if they persist in false teaching or division, reject/cut them off completely.

2 John 1:10–11 (Refusing Hospitality to Heretics)
"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds."
John, often called the "Apostle of Love," strictly forbids believers from giving platform, hospitality, or even a greeting of endorsement to teachers of false christological doctrine.

Romans 16:17 (Avoiding False Teachers)
"Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them."

2 Peter 2:1–3 (Exposing Destructive Heresies)
"But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction."
Peter characterizes heresy as "destructive" (apōleia - damnation/ruin) and warns that those promoting it bring condemnation upon themselves.
None of which excuses your behavior towards individuals here.

You believe yourself to possess the spirituality of those you quoted? You possess their authority and giftedness? I wonder why you don't speak as one having authority, and not as the scribes and the Pharisees.

Face it: you are an online bully masquerading as a spiritual figure.
 
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That's actually a very important observation, and I think it's one of the places where many prophetic systems end up wrestling with the text.
If you read Revelation in its straightforward sequence:
Revelation 19: Christ returns.
Revelation 20: Satan is bound, the thousand years occur, then Satan is released, there is a final rebellion, and finally death and Hades are cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 21: John sees a new heaven and a new earth.
That sequence alone is why many interpreters, including most premillennialists, place the Millennium before the new heaven and new earth.
Revelation 21 comes after death has already been destroyed (Rev. 20:14).
The difficulty you're noticing is that Revelation 21 contains language such as: "He that overcometh shall inherit all things" (Rev. 21:7).
At first glance that sounds like an ongoing call to perseverance.
But notice that Revelation has used "overcome" language from the very beginning (Rev. 2-3).
It doesn't necessarily imply that people are still sinning and dying inside the new creation.
It may simply be identifying those who had overcome through faith and are now inheriting the final promises.
What makes the new creation difficult to place inside the Millennium is passages like: "And there shall be no more death" (Rev. 21:4).
And: "Neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain" (Rev. 21:4).
And: "There shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth" (Rev. 21:27).
Those statements sound very different from the typical dispensational description of the Millennium, where:
mortal people still exist,
nations still exist,
people can still rebel,
Satan is later released,
and a final rebellion occurs.
It is difficult to fit all of that into Revelation 21 after John explicitly says there is no more death and no more curse-related corruption.
So if you're asking for my honest assessment, I think your earlier instinct was probably correct.
Revelation 21 reads much more naturally as the eternal state following the defeat of Satan, death, and Hades than as the Millennial Kingdom itself.
The interesting question then becomes: how do passages like Isaiah 65 fit?
Isaiah 65 appears to describe conditions where:
people still die,
nations still exist,
yet there is extraordinary blessing and peace.
Many premillennialists place that in the Millennium.
By contrast, Revelation 21 describes:
no death,
no mourning,
no pain,
no curse,
no enemies left.
That sounds like the consummation of 1 Corinthians 15: "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death" (1 Cor. 15:26). "That God may be all in all" (1 Cor. 15:28).
In other words, the connection you've been making with "all in all" is actually significant.
Once death is gone, the kingdom has reached its final goal.
That's why many readers see Revelation 21-22 as describing the state after Christ has finished subduing every enemy.
So I think the tension you're noticing is real.
If Revelation 21 is the new creation after death is abolished, then it is difficult to see it as a place where people are still dying, marrying, repopulating, and rebelling.
Those features seem to fit the Millennium far better than the eternal state.
Rev.19 opens with praise to God for His rigteous judgement of the great whore.
I also take.this as a 1st century time marker, and do not attribute white horse Jesus to the final judgement but to a judgement that occured in the time.
That also means that Jesus and His bride are already married!
 
None of which excuses your behavior towards individuals here.

You believe yourself to possess the spirituality of those you quoted? You possess their authority and giftedness? I wonder why you don't speak as one having authority, and not as the scribes and the Pharisees.

Face it: you are an online bully masquerading as a spiritual figure.
Oh but there are indeed MANY who are masquerading as scholars around here little buddy. But their doctrine is appallingly heretical to the extent of denying the Second Coming itself!

So do they need the Titus 3:10–11 treatment or not?

"Reject a divisive man [Greek: hairetikon anthrōpon - a heretical man] after the first and second admonition, knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned."
The term heretic comes directly from this Greek text. The command is explicit: warn them twice, and if they persist in false teaching or division, reject/cut them off completely.
 
None of which excuses your behavior towards individuals here.

You believe yourself to possess the spirituality of those you quoted? You possess their authority and giftedness?
The quacks, hacks and religious frauds commonly extoll their superior "spirituality" and "giftedness"..... :whistle: :sneaky: ;)
 
Oh but there are indeed MANY who are masquerading as scholars around here little buddy. But their doctrine is appallingly heretical to the extent of denying the Second Coming itself!

So do they need the Titus 3:10–11 treatment or not?

"Reject a divisive man [Greek: hairetikon anthrōpon - a heretical man] after the first and second admonition, knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned."
The term heretic comes directly from this Greek text. The command is explicit: warn them twice, and if they persist in false teaching or division, reject/cut them off completely.
You haven't followed Titus 3. You should have been done a long time ago. You don't even hold to your own standards. You simply have to have the last word. That's a pride problem.
 
The quacks, hacks and religious frauds commonly extoll their superior "spirituality" and "giftedness"..... :whistle: :sneaky: ;)
But I wasn't talking about myself. You are the one comparing yourself to spiritual giants; not me. You claim equal authority.
 
Paul says that Christ has broken down the wall and the barrier (spiritually), but the barrier is still up in the physical world. People are hating on Israel more than ever, even Christians are doing it. It's because they don't understand what the Bible says about God/Jesus' promises that have not been fulfilled yet in the physical world.
The middle wall of partition was broken between Jews and Gentiles in Jesus, not Christians and modern Israel.
 
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You haven't followed Titus 3. You should have been done a long time ago. You don't even hold to your own standards. You simply have to have the last word. That's a pride problem.
Is it true that you think that Hymenaeus, Philetus, Simon Magus, Diotrephes, Hermogenes & Phygellus will be able to enter YOUR big wide spacious broad gate that you offered to me earlier? A yes or no answer (if you have the backbone) will suffice.

Sorry, but I'm not comingliing with that crowd of heretics. Neither will I enter YOUR gate along with them.

Like I said, I'm with Paul on this one.
Did you happen to notice that I am highly motivated in this regard?

Titus 3:10–11
"Reject a divisive man [Greek: hairetikon anthrōpon - a heretical man] after the first and second admonition, knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned."
The term heretic comes directly from this Greek text. The command is explicit: warn them twice, and if they persist in false teaching or division, reject/cut them off completely.
 
Is it true that you think that Hymenaeus, Philetus, Simon Magus, Diotrephes, Hermogenes & Phygellus will be able to enter YOUR big wide spacious broad gate that you offered to me earlier? A yes or no answer (if you have the backbone) will suffice.

Sorry, but I'm not comingliing with that crowd of heretics. Neither will I enter YOUR gate along with them.

Like I said, I'm with Paul on this one.
Did you happen to notice that I am highly motivated in this regard?

Titus 3:10–11
"Reject a divisive man [Greek: hairetikon anthrōpon - a heretical man] after the first and second admonition, knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned."
The term heretic comes directly from this Greek text. The command is explicit: warn them twice, and if they persist in false teaching or division, reject/cut them off completely.
Haven't you posted this more than 2 times? Shouldn't you be done?

Are you with Paul when he said...in lowliness of mind, esteem others better than yourself?
 
You are the one comparing yourself to spiritual giants; not me. You claim equal authority.
There is not the slightest inference of anything like "comparing yourself to spiritual giants" in my post.

Another ludicrous construct of your own vivid imagination....:LOL:

Now back on topic: is Paul stipulating excommunication for those who are proffering heretical false doctrine? Or excommunication for those who refuse to greet heretics and embrace with outstretched loving arms as brothers and equals?

Titus 3:10–11
"Reject a divisive man [Greek: hairetikon anthrōpon - a heretical man] after the first and second admonition, knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned."
The term heretic comes directly from this Greek text. The command is explicit: warn them twice, and if they persist in false teaching or division, reject/cut them off completely.
 
Haven't you posted this more than 2 times? Shouldn't you be done?

Are you with Paul when he said...in lowliness of mind, esteem others better than yourself?
Is it true that you think that Hymenaeus, Philetus, Simon Magus, Diotrephes, Hermogenes & Phygellus will be able to enter YOUR big wide spacious broad gate that you offered to me earlier? A yes or no answer (if you have the backbone) will suffice.
 
Haven't you posted this more than 2 times? Shouldn't you be done?

Are you with Paul when he said...in lowliness of mind, esteem others better than yourself?
And even more alarming, you are now saying that we must ALSO "esteem" these very same heretical cast of nefarious characters "better than ourselves", better than the family of God the faithful believers?
 
I believe Isaiah 54:1 answers your question:

Isaiah 54:1

54 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the Lord.

I believe that the verse above shows that the words "for more" means that more are going to be made, meaning that some who came out of the Old Covenant actually were considered children of God. We know this by looking at all of the Old Testament saints.

Galatians 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

While you were studying Isaiah 54, did you take an interest in the quotation of it in Galatians 4:27?
Jesus speaks about spiritual children of Abraham, and tells the Jews also that they must be "born again".
The reference is to Isaiah 54:1, but Sarah is shown as having many children because like Isaac, they are the spiritual seed of Abraham.
The book is also addressed to Galatian Gentiles.

If this takes puff out of your eschatological predictions I am sorry.
 
"It" began with Jesus teaching.
No brainer.
Postrib rapture is never taught.
Never.
Not in the Bible at all.

In fact look ar your extra biblical false post.
It is from a LACK of investigation.

The hyperpauline doctrine is also based on your methods.
Poor investigation.

I hope I did not ruffle your feathers with what I said.
"There is a view that the pre trib rapture doctrine began from Margret McDonald's trans channeling experiences."
Of course that is not a Biblical statement, it is a historical rumor.
I do not even know if it is true or not.
My view is that there is a resurrection at the end of the world, but I guess that is a bit different to a "rapture".
I am familiar with Jesus words in the Bible and have not found the pre-trib rapture in them.
You are welcome to share the passage.
Also if you are familiar with any commentaries or written sermons from before the 1830s that preach the pre-trib rapture, that would be an interesting way of debunking the rumor.
I have so far not been able to find any.
 
Galatians 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

While you were studying Isaiah 54, did you take an interest in the quotation of it in Galatians 4:27?
Jesus speaks about spiritual children of Abraham, and tells the Jews also that they must be "born again".
The reference is to Isaiah 54:1, but Sarah is shown as having many children because like Isaac, they are the spiritual seed of Abraham.
The book is also addressed to Galatian Gentiles.

If this takes puff out of your eschatological predictions I am sorry.

Have you compared it against Romans 9:7-8?

7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

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The middle wall of partition was broken between Jews and Gentiles in Jesus, not Christians and modern Israel.

Maybe you should go back to the conversation before the "challenge" started.

The middle wall partition was broken spiritually between Jews & Gentiles, but it hasn't been broken physically or literally yet. The Bible shows you that it will, but it doesn't reach it's fulfillment until the New Jerusalem.

Isaiah 54 shows this. During the Millennial Kingdom period on earth, there will still be people that will try to oppress the seed of Isaac again, but God/Jesus won't allow it to happen. He will allow them to live in peace, finally.

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Have you compared it against Romans 9:7-8?

7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

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@Beekeeper, more detailed information on why God/Jesus calls himself the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is listed for you below:

God refers to Himself as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to emphasize His covenant faithfulness and personal relationship with His people across generations. This title, first used when God appeared to Moses at the burning bush, served to distinguish Him from the gods of Egypt and to remind the Israelites that He was the same deity who had made specific promises of land, descendants, and blessing to their ancestors.

God's promises to the seed of Isaac and Jacob, and their fulfillment:
  • To Isaac (Genesis 26:3–4): "To you and your descendants I give all these lands, and I will establish the oath that I swore to Abraham your father. I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven and will give to your seed all these lands. And in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed."
  • To Jacob (Genesis 28:13–15): "I am the LORD God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac; the land on which you lie I will give to you and your descendants. Also your descendants shall be as the dust of the earth… and in you and in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed."
  • Reaffirmed at Bethel (Genesis 35:11–12): "Be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall proceed from you, and kings shall come from your body. The land that I gave to Abraham and Isaac I will give to you, and I will give the land to your seed after you."
Fulfillment is confirmed throughout Scripture:
  • Land: God led Israel out of Egypt and into Canaan (Exodus 33:1; Deuteronomy 1:8; Joshua 1:6).
  • Numerous descendants: Jacob's 12 sons became the 12 tribes of Israel (Genesis 46:8–27).
  • Blessing to all nations: Fulfilled ultimately through Jesus Christ, a descendant of both Isaac and Jacob (Matthew 1:1–2; Galatians 3:16), through whom "all the families of the earth" are blessed.
Joseph himself affirmed this before his death (Genesis 50:24): "God will surely visit you and bring you up out of this land to the land which He swore to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob."
 
@Beekeeper, more detailed information on why God/Jesus calls himself the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is listed for you below:

God refers to Himself as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to emphasize His covenant faithfulness and personal relationship with His people across generations. This title, first used when God appeared to Moses at the burning bush, served to distinguish Him from the gods of Egypt and to remind the Israelites that He was the same deity who had made specific promises of land, descendants, and blessing to their ancestors.

God's promises to the seed of Isaac and Jacob, and their fulfillment:
  • To Isaac (Genesis 26:3–4): "To you and your descendants I give all these lands, and I will establish the oath that I swore to Abraham your father. I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven and will give to your seed all these lands. And in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed."
  • To Jacob (Genesis 28:13–15): "I am the LORD God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac; the land on which you lie I will give to you and your descendants. Also your descendants shall be as the dust of the earth… and in you and in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed."
  • Reaffirmed at Bethel (Genesis 35:11–12): "Be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall proceed from you, and kings shall come from your body. The land that I gave to Abraham and Isaac I will give to you, and I will give the land to your seed after you."
Fulfillment is confirmed throughout Scripture:
  • Land: God led Israel out of Egypt and into Canaan (Exodus 33:1; Deuteronomy 1:8; Joshua 1:6).
  • Numerous descendants: Jacob's 12 sons became the 12 tribes of Israel (Genesis 46:8–27).
  • Blessing to all nations: Fulfilled ultimately through Jesus Christ, a descendant of both Isaac and Jacob (Matthew 1:1–2; Galatians 3:16), through whom "all the families of the earth" are blessed.
Joseph himself affirmed this before his death (Genesis 50:24): "God will surely visit you and bring you up out of this land to the land which He swore to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob."

@Beekeeper, and as it's been mentioned one hundred times before here on this thread:

Romans 11

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

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@Beekeeper, more detailed information on why God/Jesus calls himself the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is listed for you below:

God refers to Himself as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to emphasize His covenant faithfulness and personal relationship with His people across generations. This title, first used when God appeared to Moses at the burning bush, served to distinguish Him from the gods of Egypt and to remind the Israelites that He was the same deity who had made specific promises of land, descendants, and blessing to their ancestors.

God's promises to the seed of Isaac and Jacob, and their fulfillment:
  • To Isaac (Genesis 26:3–4): "To you and your descendants I give all these lands, and I will establish the oath that I swore to Abraham your father. I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven and will give to your seed all these lands. And in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed."
  • To Jacob (Genesis 28:13–15): "I am the LORD God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac; the land on which you lie I will give to you and your descendants. Also your descendants shall be as the dust of the earth… and in you and in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed."
  • Reaffirmed at Bethel (Genesis 35:11–12): "Be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall proceed from you, and kings shall come from your body. The land that I gave to Abraham and Isaac I will give to you, and I will give the land to your seed after you."
Fulfillment is confirmed throughout Scripture:
  • Land: God led Israel out of Egypt and into Canaan (Exodus 33:1; Deuteronomy 1:8; Joshua 1:6).
  • Numerous descendants: Jacob's 12 sons became the 12 tribes of Israel (Genesis 46:8–27).
  • Blessing to all nations: Fulfilled ultimately through Jesus Christ, a descendant of both Isaac and Jacob (Matthew 1:1–2; Galatians 3:16), through whom "all the families of the earth" are blessed.
Joseph himself affirmed this before his death (Genesis 50:24): "God will surely visit you and bring you up out of this land to the land which He swore to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob."

The way this post is presented there is nothing in it that I would have reason to disagree with.
it must be pointed out however that some of the promises God made to Abraham were not eternal or inherited, some were eternal and conditional and some were eternal and unconditional.
The land promise as it was made to Abraham involved the children of Jacob and was eternal, but conditional.
The condition is in Genesis 17.

Genesis 17:
9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.
11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.
13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be CUT OFF FROM HIS PEOPLE; he hath broken my covenant.

That is the condition that Abraham and his family lived under in the holy land, and if any one of the males did not comply they would loose their right to stay there.
Before the children of Israel returned to the holy land, God added a longer list of conditions, on which their "right to exist" in the holy land depended (Deuteronomy 28).