Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

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pinebeach said:
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My opinion is that there seems to be a large section of the dem voters with very bad memory.

It's not about loving Trump. It's about avoiding an even worse mess that the 4 yrs under the Biden conglomerate and the next two
about not spending millions on an impeachment platform that will not cross the finish line.

Folks do not realize the spiritual realities you are messing with.
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I agree with what you said about spiritual realities. There is nothing Godly about Donald Trump and many Christians are ok with it.
Trump has told over thirty thousand lies as our president that's about twenty one lies every day.Let that sink in.No other president has been like that and people act like there's nothing spiritually smelly about that.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
I agree with what you said about spiritual realities. There is nothing Godly about Donald Trump and many Christians are ok with it.
Trump has told over thirty thousand lies as our president that's about twenty one lies every day.Let that sink in.No other president has been like that and people act like there's nothing spiritually smelly about that.
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His corruption far exceeds any past president.
And he is completely brazen about it.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
I agree with what you said about spiritual realities. There is nothing Godly about Donald Trump and many Christians are ok with it.
Trump has told over thirty thousand lies as our president that's about twenty one lies every day.Let that sink in.No other president has been like that and people act like there's nothing spiritually smelly about that.
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Well I'm not going to address your statements about lies, because no one...and I do mean no one...tells more lies than the democrat party.

But the truth remains, that voting left means you are supporting both the insane commies and the muslims who are actually the thing that Americans should be, not in fear of, but in direct opposition to.

Hating a man will not serve you or any other person if the years after Trump fulfill the desire of evil people all over the world.

Senseless senseless hatred. Let that sink in actually.
 
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HeIsHere said:
Yes he a shown himself to be a reliable source that explains why his so called empire is falling apart.
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Opinion does not falsify his claims. Go ahead and factually prove Israel is committing genocide in Gaza if you are so brainwashed into believing that swill. By the way, claiming Christianity, along with the peaceful coexistence of this level of delusion, is incompatible with Spirit-filled Christianity. They do not mutually coexist. Can't be bothered to watch a two-plus-minute X post.
 
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pinebeach said:
Well I'm not going to address your statements about lies, because no one...and I do mean no one...tells more lies than the democrat party.

But the truth remains, that voting left means you are supporting both the insane commies and the muslims who are actually the thing that Americans should be, not in fear of, but in direct opposition to.

Hating a man will not serve you or any other person if the years after Trump fulfill the desire of evil people all over the world.

Senseless senseless hatred. Let that sink in actually.
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Adding to the above:

I would vote for Democrats myself if they were the party they used to be because I don't particularly care for the repubs who seem to be all about making rich people richer. I think Trump fumbled the Iran war and his comments regarding Ukraine and Putin are
beyond the pale. How is Ukraine the problem in that scenario?

Well, I could sit at my laptop all day and explain things, but I have to go do things that actually count towards having a life.

Everyone has a choice. I guess in the end though, it's really up to God Almighty whether or not this country shall continue for yet a while longer, or, if the judgment it has been begging for will begin in earnestness. Alot of warnings which neither side seems to
be paying much attention to, have occurred to and are ongoing. Remember though, you will play a part in it according to how you vote. Actually I don't vote because I am not an American. I do live here; I am here legally and I am paying attention. To both sides.
 
Lightbeamrider said:
Opinion does not falsify his claims. Go ahead and factually prove Israel is committing genocide in Gaza if you are so brainwashed into believing that swill. By the way, claiming Christianity, along with the peaceful coexistence of this level of delusion, is incompatible with Spirit-filled Christianity. They do not mutually coexist. Can't be bothered to watch a two-plus-minute X post.
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It has already been proven by experts in the field of genocide studies some of whom are Jewish.
So much irony on the delusion part, truly astounding to even make that accusation.
 
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Lightbeamrider said:
Trump told everybody in plain English. They bombed diesel refineries in Russia, affecting the world's access to Diesel fuel and raising prices. Zelensky plenty of opportunities to make a deal with Russia but refused.
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Who bombed who first? Believe whatever you want but those birds are still coming home to roost. Trump does lie and he is trying to
cover his bad decisions with Iran. Zelensky is on a fox interview stating he is all for a deal. Putin, the chronic demonic liar knows his time is short....just like the devil.

You have really bit into a rotten apple but I guess that is your choice.
 
seed_time_harvest said:
I agree with what you said about spiritual realities. There is nothing Godly about Donald Trump and many Christians are ok with it.
Trump has told over thirty thousand lies as our president that's about twenty one lies every day.Let that sink in.No other president has been like that and people act like there's nothing spiritually smelly about that.
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I responded to you and you laugh.

Remember that. There is nothing funny here and covering up your inability to create a sensible post with a laughing head, identifies you as a person who cannot or does not have the ability to reason and make choices that will not create a worse situation than
the 4 yrs under the make believe Biden presidency.

So be it at this point. I have nothing else to say especially to someone who plays the court jester in times such as what we are
witness to. I think Trump has dug himself one heck of big hole because he is a narcissist. His religion is not even skin deep.

Basically? It's over. No golden age but I said that months ago.
 
pinebeach said:
Who bombed who first?
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That is a dodge. You asked a question and i answered it. You also wrote that you can sit at your laptop and explain things. Why not sit at your laptop and research things? Nobody should take your so-called explanations seriously if they are based on ignorance. The answer to your questions is right at your fingertips. If you do not know then that means either lazy or don't know how. So which is it?
pinebeach said:
Believe whatever you want but those birds are still coming home to roost.
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I believe Trump and you have not proved otherwise. His response was perfectly rational to the circumstances. Trump is attempting to mitigate high diesel prices. Trump is attempting to solve problems, and I could not care less if critics do not like him or think he is the anti-Christ. Or Hitler.
pinebeach said:
Trump does lie and he is trying to
cover his bad decisions with Iran.
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What bad decisions? What makes you a foreign policy or history expert or an expert on Iran? I still remember when those bastards took over the US embassy when Carter was President. They have been sticking it to us ever since, and now Trump gives them a little payback, finally. Your research assignment is to go back to the Iran hostage crisis and from that point on, document all the ways Iran has implemented terror attacks against the USA or through its proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas. Include Israel for extra points.
pinebeach said:
Zelensky is on a fox interview stating he is all for a deal.
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Then make one because it sounds like they are paying a heavy price.
pinebeach said:
Putin, the chronic demonic liar knows his time is short....just like the devil.

You have really bit into a rotten apple but I guess that is your choice.
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You can have your opinion, but it's short on facts. :rolleyes:
 
pinebeach said:
I responded to you and you laugh.

Remember that. There is nothing funny here and covering up your inability to create a sensible post with a laughing head, identifies you as a person who cannot or does not have the ability to reason and make choices that will not create a worse situation than
the 4 yrs under the make believe Biden presidency.

So be it at this point. I have nothing else to say especially to someone who plays the court jester in times such as what we are
witness to. I think Trump has dug himself one heck of big hole because he is a narcissist. His religion is not even skin deep.

Basically? It's over. No golden age but I said that months ago.
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Don’t be So sensitive my guy.😂
 
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Every Dem voted against the final One Big Beautiful Bill package, which included the modified tax cuts. If the Dems got their way, neither the original nor the modified would have made it into law.
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It was Trump who originally proposed the two tax cuts in the bill? No tax on tips and no tax on SSR?

Yes, Donald Trump originally proposed both concepts as signature campaign promises during the 2024 presidential election cycle. He first floated the "No Tax on Tips" idea at a campaign rally in Las Vegas, Nevada, in June 2024, and later added the "No Tax on Social Security" proposal to his platform. [1, 2, 3, 4]

However, the final law, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA) signed on July 4, 2025, handled his two original ideas differently: [1, 2]

1. No Tax on Tips (Enacted)
  • Trump's Proposal: He proposed completely exempting tips from federal income tax.
  • What Made it Into Law: The law enacted a temporary federal income tax deduction for qualified tips up to $25,000 per year, phasing out for single filers earning over $150,000. It is scheduled to expire at the end of 2028.
2. No Tax on Social Security (Modified)
  • Trump's Proposal: He campaigned on a complete, permanent elimination of federal income taxes on Social Security retirement benefits.
  • What Made it Into Law: Congress did not actually alter the core tax structure of Social Security benefits. Instead, they implemented a workaround: a temporary $6,000 senior tax deduction for filers aged 65 and older. It reduces the overall tax bill for low-to-middle-income seniors but does not completely eliminate the tax on Social Security benefits. Like the tip deduction, this expires after 2028. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
 
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