Satan was bound since the first advent

cronjecj · Dec 2, 2011

Matthew 12:28-29 (KJV)
Or else how can one (Christ) enter into a strong man's (Satan)
house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man
(Satan)? and then he will spoil his house.

Luke 10:18 (KJV)
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Revelation 12:9 (KJV)
And the great dragon (Satan) was cast out, that old serpent, called
the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast
out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

John 12:31 (KJV)
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world
be cast out. (Cast out of heaven)

1 John 4:4 (KJV)
Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because
greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Colossians 2:15 (KJV)
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of
them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Hebrews 2:14 (KJV)
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood,
he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death
he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.

1 John 3:8 (KJV)
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the
beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he
might destroy the works of the devil.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (KJV)
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall
not come, except there come a falling away first, and that
man of sin (antichrist) be revealed, the son of perdition
(antichrist);

Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called
God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the
temple (Church) of God, shewing himself that he is God.
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he
(Holy Spirit) who now letteth will let, until he (Holy Spirit)
be taken out of the way.

Revelation 20:3 (KJV)
And cast him (Satan) into the bottomless pit, and shut him
(Satan) up, and set a seal upon him, that he (Satan) should
deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years
(from the first advent until just before the second)
should be fulfilled: and after that he (Satan) must be loosed
a little season.

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2 Thessalonians 2:7-8 (KJV)
And then shall that Wicked (antichrist) be revealed, whom
the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall
destroy with the brightness of his coming.

Revelation 20:9 (KJV)
And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed
the camp of the saints (believers) about, and the beloved city
(Church): and fire came down from God out of heaven, and
devoured them. (second coming of the Lord)

AnandaHya · Dec 2, 2011

cronjecj said:

yep Jesus bound Satan and his demons...

tells you what Jesus did....

ok shows Satan bound in the bottomless pit but tells us he will be released for a little season....

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yep Jesus destroys them.

shroom2 · Dec 2, 2011

Rev 20:
2) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled:

...future.. After the trib, after armageddon.

WeStand · Dec 2, 2011

shroom2 said:

Or known as The Lord's Day; then at the end of The Lord's Day, at the End of REV: 20/9 Comes OUR FATHER, and The Great White Throne Judgement.

Forever in Christ

sonnyd · Dec 2, 2011

shroom2 said:

Re 16:16
And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew
tongue Armageddon.

If I understand correctly, the battle of Armageddon takes place just after the Wrath of God has been taken place and before the 1000 year reign.

In Revelation 20: 2-3 is the only place in the bible(for sure) where Satan is bound and sealed in the bottomless pit.

peterT · Dec 3, 2011

Satan is a very very busy for someone who is cast into a bottomless pit now, and shut up and a seal upon him for a 1000 years.

Acts 5:3But Peter said, Ananias, why hath SATAN filled thine heart to lie.
There he is filling your heart with lies

Romans 16:20And the God of peace shall bruise SATAN under your feet shortly
There he is shortly to be put under your feet.

1 Corinthians 7:5Defraud ye not one the other, except [it be] with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that SATAN.
There he is again, so fast and pray.

2 Corinthians 2:11Lest SATAN should get an advantage of us
There he is again beware of him

2 Corinthians 11:14And no marvel; for SATAN himself is transformed into an angel of light.
There he is again, as an angel of light.

2 Corinthians 12:7And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of SATAN to buffet me
There he is again, buffeting Paul.

1 Thessalonians 2:18Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but SATAN hindered us.
There he is again hindering Paul.

2 Thessalonians 2:9[Even him], whose coming is after the working of SATAN with all power and signs and lying wonders,
There he is again, coming with power and signs and lying wonders,

1 Timothy 1:20Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
There he is again being very busy.

1 Timothy 5:15For some are already turned aside after Satan
There he is again, turning you to him.

Revelation 12:9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
There he is again, very loose.

He has been a very naughty boy and still is according to the bible.

Laodicea · Dec 3, 2011

2 Peter 3:8
(8) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

The earth is 6000 years old, Satan will be bound when Jesus returns, there will be 1000 years of peace with him being bound. The 1000 years will be like a sabbath rest. That will be like a week where we have 6 working days and the 7th is the sabbath

mpaper345 · Dec 3, 2011

Of course Satan is bound,for Jesus always defeats him,and the wicked one cannot touch the saints,and the devil is even hindered from doing what he wants with the people of the world,but the 1000 years of Satan being bound up in the bottomless pit does not fly from the start of Christianity until now.

Satan is still the prince of the power of the air,from the time of Christianity until now,and all things are the same.

If Satan was bound up you would see a change in the way people act.

When Satan is bound in the bottomless pit he does not deceive the nations anymore,but we never seen that in the history of mankind,for there has been people still deceived and nations still pushing their power and wars.

Also why is it only a 1000 years,when the Church has been in operation for 2000 years.

Satan is bound by chains and thrown in to the bottomless pit,and then the physical reign of Christ is on earth,and that is why there is peace on earth,for the devil is not deceiving the nations anymore to stir them up against the truth.

At the end of the millennial reign Satan is loosed,and then the nations are stirred up again to go against Jesus and the saints,and the reason that they are stirred up is because they are in the flesh,heathens that God spared from the battle of Armageddon as told in Zechariah 14.

The world never had a break from the temptations of the devil from the start of Christianity until now,and the Bible never says that Satan stopped trying to devour people for 1000 years.

If someone looks at it that Jesus bound Satan for 1000 years,2000 years ago,why would Jesus loose Him for the other 1000 years.Is it to give them a break back then but not in the last 1000 years,and if Satan is to be bound in that fashion for Christianity to prosper,then why is Satan not bound for the other 1000 years.

Why only a 1000 years of 2000 years,what is the significance of that,and we see nothing has changed since Christianity until now,but man is still the wrong doer and war monger they have been.

Not only that but after the devil is loosed from the bottomless pit,he deceives the world for a battle against the saints,but where did we ever see that in the history of mankind,the all the nations attacking the saints.

AnandaHya · Dec 3, 2011

Romans 16:20And the God of peace shall bruise SATAN under your feet shortly
There he is shortly to be put under your feet.

now who was that spoken to?

is "shortly" now 1900 years after you have been killed?

Satan was bound after the destruction of Roman and has since been released.

Evil is not just the work of Satan, it is also the work of corrupt men. mankind does not need a devil to be evil.
they are born that way under the curse of Adam because they have knowledge of Good and evil. some will choose evil.

James 1:15
Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.

look no Satan evolved.

journey41 · Dec 3, 2011

AnandaHya said:

Romans 16:20And the God of peace shall bruise SATAN under your feet shortly

for them back then, and for us now. For those ones are dead now and awake to the resurrection...time doesn't tick when you are in the grave.
And shortly for us because it's all coming to an end very soon.

Yes, especially when you are going to live forever. Life is just a puff of smoke...and you aint alive that long to be waiting and waiting...

You should try looking at the state of the world?

And Satan their father has nothing to do with it?......

Who has knowledge of good and evil?
Men don't know the difference now adays. (Unless they read the scriptures)
Anything goes now and they call good evil and evil good.

He's there, dont worry...and his angels & are grooming his children.

Satan is God's instrument. God uses Satan to separate the good from the wicked. The wicked will be drawn to him.

shroom2 · Dec 3, 2011

journey41 said:

Satan is not God's "instrument". God does not "use" satan for anything. He is God's enemy, always going against the purposes of God.

2knowhim · Dec 3, 2011

shroom2 said:

God uses all things for the Good,....of those who are called according to His purpose,
and who love Him.

Paul new God had the power to remove the messenger of Satan from him,
But God didn't he was there to buffet Paul for the many Revelations that Paul
had recieved. And so God said My Grace is sufficient for thee, for in weakness
Christ is made Strong.

What about job?
What about Moses?
What about David?
Etc....

Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.

journey41 · Dec 3, 2011

This is not from my own imagination. I got it from the scriptures.

In Isaiah 10, God calls Satan "The Assyrian" but he's talking to Satan, because Satan is there.

Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod of my anger, and the staff in their hand (Israel) is mine indignation.

God speaking
Isaiah 10:6 I will send him against an hypocritical nation (Israel), and against the people of my wrath (Israel) will I give him (Satan) a charge to take the spoil, and to take the prey (false prophet) and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

Isaiah 10:7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither does his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut of nations not a few (rest of the world)

Isaiah 10:8 For he saith (Satan), Are not my princes altogether kings?

Isaiah 10:9 Is not Caino as Caremish? is not Hamth as Arpad? is not Samaria as Damascus? (Ruled by him, Satan)

Isaiah 10:10 As my hand has found the kingdoms of the idols, and whose graven images did excell them of Jerusalem and of Samaria;

God speaking
Isaiah 10:11 Shall I not, as I have done unto Samaria and her idols, so do to Jerusalem and her Idols?

Isaiah 10:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, (end of 1000 years) I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the King of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks. (lake of fire)

Satan speaking
Isaiah 10:13 For he says,(Satan) By the strength of my hand I have done it, and by my wisdom: for I am prudent: and I have removed the bounds of the people, and have robbed their treasures,(knowledge) and I have put down the inhabitants like a valiant man.

Satan still speaking
Isaiah 10:14 And my hand hath found as a nest the riches of the people; and as one gathers eggs that are left, have I gathered all the earth; and there was none that moved the wind, or opened the mouth, or peeped.(no one stopped him)

God speaking now
Isaiah 10:15 Shall the ax boast itself against him that heweth therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up? Or as if the staff should lift up itself as if it were no wood.

You see, Satan is God's ax. God is holding the ax. God is in full control and he knows what he's doing. He uses Satan to draw the wicked to him, and uses Christ to draw the righteous to him. This is how he sieves.

Satan thinks however that it is all his own idea, but God is showing us that it's not. God is leading him to his own destruction. God has orchestrated everything, for his purpose and his plan.

Raistlin · Dec 3, 2011

cronjecj said:

Matthew 12:28-29 (KJV)
Or else how can one (Christ) enter into a strong man's (Satan)
house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man
(Satan)? and then he will spoil his house.

Luke 10:18 (KJV)
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Revelation 12:9 (KJV)
And the great dragon (Satan) was cast out, that old serpent, called
the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast
out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

John 12:31 (KJV)
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world
be cast out. (Cast out of heaven)

1 John 4:4 (KJV)
Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because
greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Colossians 2:15 (KJV)
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of
them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Hebrews 2:14 (KJV)
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood,
he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death
he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.

1 John 3:8 (KJV)
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the
beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he
might destroy the works of the devil.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (KJV)
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall
not come, except there come a falling away first, and that
man of sin (antichrist) be revealed, the son of perdition
(antichrist);

Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called
God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the
temple (Church) of God, shewing himself that he is God.
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he
(Holy Spirit) who now letteth will let, until he (Holy Spirit)
be taken out of the way.

Revelation 20:3 (KJV)
And cast him (Satan) into the bottomless pit, and shut him
(Satan) up, and set a seal upon him, that he (Satan) should
deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years
(from the first advent until just before the second)
should be fulfilled: and after that he (Satan) must be loosed
a little season.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

2 Thessalonians 2:7-8 (KJV)
And then shall that Wicked (antichrist) be revealed, whom
the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall
destroy with the brightness of his coming.

Revelation 20:9 (KJV)
And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed
the camp of the saints (believers) about, and the beloved city
(Church): and fire came down from God out of heaven, and
devoured them. (second coming of the Lord)

Rev 12:17
And the Dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Satan is very much free.
You see here that he even wages war against Christians.
Doesn't sound like the actions of a bound prisoner.

Red33 · Dec 3, 2011

Only foolish and unwise people believe that all of (Dan 9 and Mt 24) have been fulfilled and that Satan has been presently bound over the past 2,000 years. They are ignorant of his devices and give place to him without knowing it. Jesus Christ in His resurrection and ascension spoiled and triumphed over the principalities and powers of the air but He did no bind Satan in the bottomless pit with chains and will not until He comes back at the end of the great tribulation period (Rev 20:1-6). Jesus Christ will not have Satan roaming about and deceiving the nations during the 1,000 (Latin -Mille) year (Annum) - millennium reign that proceeds the great tribulation and the judgment of the nations. Yes, there will be those with glorified bodies and those who do not have glorified bodies who live in bodies of sin and death on the earth at the same time. Why that is so hard to understand I will never know.

AnandaHya · Dec 3, 2011

Red33 said:

why don't you see that JESUS reigns and Satan is bound?

during the millenium what do you see as being different?

not everyone who lives on Earth during that time will be disciples of Christ. they will not have Satan to tempt them but they will still have their corrupt bodies to lead them astray.

they will not have supernatural excuses for their sin but they will still need to be disciplined by a ROD of Iron.

They will not truly be born again because they have not been made new and do not keep God's commandments and statutes and they are deceived by Satan, the son of peredition when he is released from his imprisonment.

how are these people that God's saints rule over any different from the lost people you meet today?

shroom2 · Dec 3, 2011

AnandaHya said:

Because Satan is not bound. I do not understand how anyone can think he is. Look at the state of the world.

Much! Satan will be bound, Christ will be reigning.

AnandaHya · Dec 3, 2011

Are these events Past, Present or Future?

Revelation 5
9 And they sang a new song, saying:

“ You are worthy to take the scroll,
And to open its seals;
For You were slain,
And have redeemed us to God by Your blood
Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
10 And have made us[d] kings[e] and priests to our God;
And we[f] shall reign on the earth.”

Revelation 6
9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.

Revelation 7:9-10
New King James Version (NKJV)

9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!”

Revelation 19:6
New King James Version (NKJV)
6 And I heard, as it were, the voice of a great multitude, as the sound of many waters and as the sound of mighty thunderings, saying, “Alleluia! For the[a] Lord God Omnipotent reigns!

Revelation 20:4
New King James Version (NKJV)
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a[a] thousand years.....

5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Revelation 21
24 And the nations of those who are saved[l] shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it.

Revelation 22
3 And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him. 4 They shall see His face, and His name shall be on their foreheads. 5 There shall be no night there: They need no lamp nor light of the sun, for the Lord God gives them light. And they shall reign forever and ever.

AnandaHya · Dec 3, 2011

shroom2 said:

Because Satan is not bound. I do not understand how anyone can think he is. Look at the state of the world.
look at the state of HEAVEN

Much! Satan will be bound, Christ will be reigning.

With Christ reigning why are there still people who are lost and willing to follow Satan when he is released?

Abiding · Dec 3, 2011

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Sweet...red youve joined us with your usual insults...Im always attentive to those who claim to model grace.
Please show me in Rev 20 where you get these unglorified folk...especially in the light of what is told in rev.19. By the way...please show me in rev.19 any reference to survivors please! that would be nice.
Also if you can explain the great chain...Is it steel? And can you explain a bottomless pit?

Since we are too foolish and unwise...please show me the place in the bible so i can learn where the
glorified and unglorified folk live togather at the same time. Im sure this task will be easy for you.

Satan was bound since the first advent

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