Sabbath: The Lord's Day

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James 2:8-11 (KJV)
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: [9] But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. [10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point , he is guilty of all. [11] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

If you don't keep the 4th commandments and keep the other 9 you are wasting your time

You may not be a thief yet you are a sabbath breaker

You may not be a liar you you are a sabbath. breaker

Of you can't do all then don't do none
 
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Keep in mind that there was no NT written
The Gentiles had to read and be taught from the OT

Let's read what the Lord said is mans righteousness before him

Deuteronomy 6:1-2,24-25 (KJV)
Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the Lord your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it: [2] That thou mightest fear the Lord thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged. [24] And the Lord commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the Lord our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. [25] And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the Lord our God, as he hath commanded us.

Our righteousness before the Lord is the commandments

Not our commandments, his commandments
 
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Exodus 12:49 (KJV)
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

One Law

Leviticus 24:22 (KJV)
Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the Lord your God.

One Law

Numbers 15:15-16 (KJV)
One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth with you , an ordinance for ever in your generations: as ye are , so shall the stranger be before the Lord . [16] One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.

One law

Ephesians 2:11-13,19 (KJV)
Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; [12] That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: [13] But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. [19] Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Keep the sabbath people it is part of the same commandments that has thou shalt not steal, kill or have no other Gods before Jesus
 
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What is your purpose man?

Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 (KJV)
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. [14] For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

What is our righteousness before the Lord

The commandments
 
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We can read where God made a covenant of circumcision
We read that no man uncircumcised in the flesh will not come near him when he returns

Show me scriptures or verses where that covenant is rescinded by the Lord

One scripture

Keep in mind God don't break his covenants
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the natural man understands NOTHING spiritual.
 
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the natural man understands NOTHING spiritual.
The spiritual man knows to keep the sabbath and circumcision


Let's read
Ezekiel 44:7 (KJV)
In that ye have brought into my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations.

Do you understand what is said here?

Let's make it even more simple than what is written


Do you know God's words are spirit?

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Pay close attention

John 6:63 (KJV)
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jesus words are spiritual

do you understand this

Let's read his spiritual words

Exodus 20:1,8 (KJV)
And God spake all these words, saying, [8] Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Who spoke these words remember the sabbath ?

Jesus


The same Jesus said these spiritual words
 
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Pay close attention to these spiritual words of Jesus

Genesis 17:9-13 (KJV)
And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. [10] This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. [11] And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. [12] And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed. [13] He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.

Notice the words God said and covenant and everlasting

Do you really understand spiritual words from God are you really spiritual?
 
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Sabbath keepers

The people don't understand the importance of the sabbath or covenants

Ask yourself would you serve a God who don't keep his covenants?

When People say the sabbath and law is no more they are saying God don't keep his promises, contracts, testaments even covenants.
 
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People is this covenant nailed to the cross with all the other covenants

Genesis 9:9,11-17 (KJV)
And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you; [11] And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth. [12] And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: [13] I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. [14] And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: [15] And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. [16] And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. [17] And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

We still see God's bow in the heaven do we not?
 
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Let's look at another commandment that no church ever speak of

What is the first commandments God gave man

Genesis 1:27-28 (KJV)
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. [28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth

Is this commandment done away with?
No

What is it now 7 billion people on the earth

People like keeping this commandments

Think about what we are reading
 
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The Lord told us to reason together

Isaiah 1:18 (KJV)
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord : though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Brothers and sisters do we still have sin in the world
Is satan still walking to and fro looking for whoever he can persuade

Are people killing and lying?

Do people have other God's before Jesus?

Yes we do

The commandments are still valid even the sabbath day

This is why I know the people who say the law is no more is confused
 
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Listen up

How can you call someone a cult or those who worship Islam, Krishna or Buddha wrong when you say this la is no more

Exodus 20:3-4 (KJV)
Thou shalt have no other gods before me. [4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

These different beliefs can't be wrong if the above law is no more

Let's head to the new testament

1 Corinthians 8:3-4 (KJV)
But if any man love God, the same is known of him. [4] As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.

1 John 5:21 (KJV)
Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

This is the same thing as what God said to Moses

But we have churches, denominations and people who say the law is no more
 
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Servants of God do you know if you keep God's commandants you will get everlasting life

Pay close attention to what Jesus said to this rich man

Matthew 19:16-17 (KJV)
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? [17] And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is , God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Keep the commandments Jesus said

Now the rich man had other issues

But look what Jesus said

Keep the commandments

Do this need interpretation
 
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By the way I do this on my phone, I'm at work
So please excuse my grammar and punctuation

Plus my glass is cracked on this phone

Peace in Jesus
 
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Sisters and brothers

When Jesus died of the cross and rose from the dead what sins did he do away with

All
Some
Future
Past

Let's read

Romans 3:24-25 (KJV)
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: [25] Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;


The remissions of sins that are past

Is our sins done away with ?

No

People are still sinning

Tell me what Is Paul saying above of h is not saying are past sins are forgiven

This verses is NEVER read in the churches
 
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Check this out

God gave us 6 days to do our thing
God only ask us to give him 1 day

Let's read

Exodus 20:8-9 (KJV)
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. [9] Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

God gave man 6 days

Now the Lord will ask for 1 day for himself

Exodus 20:10 (KJV)
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

Who is the 7th day for

God

Man gets 6
God gets 1

God is extremely fair
 
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Abishai

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You did mot know of David's repentance this is why I told you

As far as Esau why don't you tell me why the Lord Hates him?

Where do you read where Esau sinned in the womb?

Stick to the bible and quit with the Mumbo jumbo doctrine from your mind

Even though Esau cried with tears te Lord had to honor the contract Esau
Made with Jacob

Let's read A.

Genesis 25:31-34 (KJV)
And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright. [32] And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me? [33] And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob. [34] Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.

No one told Esau to sell his birthright
So why should the Lord forgive him

What sin did Esau commit here

Now you have a question answers you did not understand
Your presumptions have distorted your perceptions.
How did you presume that I didn't know Psalms 51?
I should guess then you don't remember Romans 9:11-13. My question is why did the Lord chose Jacob over Esau before they were born. Did they sin against the law? Because you say sin is transgression of the law.
You have all mumbo jumbo. You infer that we should circumcise and all that stuff which the Lord already wiped it off. It is you who is not following the Bible. Just by picking unrelevant Bible verses and putting them here will not make you the follower of the Bible. You need to understand, why the words are the in the first place. Without understanding you cannot follow Him.

With the same analogy, no one told David to commit adultery, why should the Lord forgive him?
Don't you see, the Lord will have mercy on whom He will have mercy?

I don't have problem but you have problem of showing me one direct verse in the NT where the gentiles were told to keep the Sabbath, because it isn't there and you don't accept that.
 
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Abishai

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the natural man understands NOTHING spiritual.
Amen brother. If a man is born of the Spirit, he will understand spiritual things else he'll keep trying to justify himself through earthly means
 
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Sisters and brothers

When Jesus died of the cross and rose from the dead what sins did he do away with

All
Some
Future
Past

Let's read

Romans 3:24-25 (KJV)
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: [25] Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;


The remissions of sins that are past
See
Is our sins done away with ?

No

People are still sinning

Tell me what Is Paul saying above of h is not saying are past sins are forgiven

This verses is NEVER read in the churches

What are sins that are past if Jesus in fact did take away the sins of the world. ALL SINS ARE PAST, being in Christ, crucifying the flesh or putting off the old man; the man of sin, ALL THINGS HAVE BECOME NEW.

God did this in His forbearance, as in the meaning of God choosing Jacob over Esau before either was born, BOTH having done neither good nor evil so that the purpose of election may stand NOT of works (good OR evil), but of Him who calls us to be.

God has indeed chosen Jacob, but is it not evident in scripture that Jacob did evil before the Lord? Likewise is it not also evident within those very same scriptures that Esau did good before the Lord as well?

Beloved. You are blinded by your own pride. I ask you, and be honest with your own conscience.

Is it a good thing to worship God on any day of the week?
 
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Abishai

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Hsa 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets, And have multiplied visions; I have given symbols through the witness of the prophets."

The symbols become clear in the understanding of the covenant God has provided to us through Jesus Christ. Read about circumcision under the new covenant:

Rom 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which [he had while still] uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also,


Rom 4:12 and the father of circumcision to those who not only [are] of the circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of the faith which our father Abraham [had while still] uncircumcised.

Gal 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.
Have they hardened their hearts so much that seeing they may not see, hearing they may not hear? They are so bent on living in shadows while the real thing has already begun to show up since the Lord was crucified. Not only they live in shadows but also they want others to live like them. They keep adoring the blue print without even seeing the building itself. Sad.