My friend first of all... You have to have the Holy Spirit as an indwelling Spirit before you can sin against Him. Remember how JEsus said.... And you will recieve great power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you. Acts 1:8. Well part of that power is power over ALL sin. If it was not so, then that spirit would not have been THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Ok so now we have the same power Jesus had becasue we have the Same Holy Spirit. If we now want to do a sin, we have to get rid of the Holy Spirit FIRST. So ANY sin we do AFTER WE RECIEVED THE HOLY SPIRIT is the sin against the Holy Spirit. That is called Blashemy against the Holy Spirit! Or SIN against the Holy Spirit. Such a person can NEVER be saved again. Not even the blood of Jesus. God says they are the dog that turned to his own vomit again... For they KNEW righteousness, becasue the Spirit made them part of the righteousness... 2 Peter2:20 22.
no, for the 3rd time this morning, that is not the unpardonable sin.
this was:
Matthew 12
Jesus and Beelzebub
22Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. 23All the people were astonished and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”
24But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “
It is only by Beelzebub,d the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.”
25Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? 27And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 28But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
29“Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man’s house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house.
30“He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. 31And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
33“Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 34You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. 35The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. 37For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”
though i must say you are basically blaspheming to claim you have the same power Jesus had.
what's all this:
"we want to sin so we have to get rid of the Holy Spirit first"?
you people just love to make things up - and you better be careful doing it. it far more serious than you think. judgment begins at the house of God, and every false teaching you present as supposed Truth by the Spirit of Truth is a terrible thing.
Dear God help us all.