It is a Prophet of God speaking, it's not an base instruction manual on how to drive a car, Holy Scripture is not written so that a semi-literate fool can get a grasp of it..."the world is a ball", Isaiah is not preaching to a bunch of goons with 4th grade mentality, he is preaching to men who are intellectual giants compared to us, you think Isaiah is stupid, just some country hick with a screw loose! Can I just say the 'Snail, do you realise that Isaiah most probably does not want you to understand what he is saying, it is not intended for the profane, it is intended to spark the inspired. How do you expect it to read- like the back of box of cornflakes. If he said 'ball', you would probably say "Isaiah thinks that the earth is a rubber ball, what idiot, LOL", that is what a profane person would say.
So you now admit the symbolic or hidden nature of the scriptures (rather than their literal interpretaion) yet you would also claim that it is clear as day from the bible that the Earth is fixed and spherical. hmm. You can't have it both ways. Claim the bible is literal scientific fact on matteres which support your view, yet when I show you verses which when taken literally support a flat earth, you reject them preferring to argue some sort of hidden or inspired meaning. You claim the Earth is spherical based upon the bible yet I thought the idea for a spherical earth came from Greek philosophy. Something doesn't add up there.
"It is he that comprehends the circle of the earth"
"earth" = erets....
If I compare Koine Greek and Hebrew "circle" in Greek gyros, in Hebrew - huwg, when one studies these two words and compares them because as the Bible says Truth is established in the mouth of two witnesses, I get the English concept of 'to encompass'
That is what linguistic investigation will reveal, so now I know that something is being encompassed, what? the earth - erets, does not actually mean in this instance that
If I compare Koine Greek and Hebrew "circle" in Greek gyros, in Hebrew - huwg, when one studies these two words and compares them because as the Bible says Truth is established in the mouth of two witnesses, I get the English concept of 'to encompass'
That is what linguistic investigation will reveal, so now I know that something is being encompassed, what? the earth - erets, does not actually mean in this instance that
That is very insightful however the word "encompass" cannot differentiate between a circle in a flat earth, and a circle around the spherical earth which we call the equator. As far as I know at that time the readers would not have known about such an equator or southern hemisphere. But they would have understood a circular flat hemispherical dome concept in which they dwelt, and yet nothing dwelt below them.
Isaiah is speaking of the entire planet and all it contains, same with the Greek Septuagint, actually the Greek uses different words to describe the surface of the earth and the globe of the earth, so I find in Isaiah 40:22 that the Bible means the surface of the earth has been encompassed! There is no better way to destroy any flat earth theory than what Isaiah just testified, you cannot do it in so few well chosen words. But he also adds "he that comprehends"...do you comprehend this 'Snail?
If we are talking about witnesses to establish a doctrine, I have produced more scriptures from Genesis to Revelations which show a flat earth, than you can to show a spherical earth. Assume you did not have the benefit of Greek philosophers, I highly doubt you would come to a spherical earth conclusion. The flat-earthers (who by the way, also believe in a fixed earth), have one up on you there, at least they use the bible alone to establish their view of the universe.
Please stop mutilating Genesis, you cannot understand one sentence of Isaiah how can you possibly comprehend Genesis???
You dont know who Job is do you?
You dont know who Job is do you?
Job was obviously a flat-earther by his comparisons of the sky to a hardened mirror, and the earth as flattened (not ball-shaped) clay. The sky is not hard, and neither is the earth really flat. Job was wrong. Point proven.
Have you ever seen a tree grow up into heaven???
It's a DREAM! Do you just pretend to be stupid 'Snail?
It's a DREAM! Do you just pretend to be stupid 'Snail?