No Such Thing As Free Will!

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RoBoT-7x153-

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READ THE WORD!!! I'M NOT RESPONDING ANY MORE TO ANY IDIOTS (UNLEARNED PEOPLE). I DIDN'T SAY THESE THINGS GOD'S WORD DOES!!! YOUR NOT MAD AT ME, YOUR MAD AT GOD!!! THE SEEING EYE AND THE HEARING EAR, HE MADE THEM BOTH. IT'S NOT MY FAULT YOU CAN'T READ HIS WORD!!! READ HIS WORD AND LIVE WITH IT!!! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE'S OPINIONS! I KNOW THAT I'M POSTING THE TRUTH, SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU HATE THIS TRUTH! THIS IS WHAT BEING BLESSED IS ABOUT, BEING HATED BY THE WORLD!!! LIVE WITH IT!!!

Luke 6: 22; Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

Romans 1: 25; Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

THE WORLD HATES THE TRUTH, SO JUST KEEP LISTENING TO THEIR LIES IF YOU WANT TO GO TO HELL!!! PEOPLE HATE GOD'S WORD!!! I LOVE GOD'S WORD!!! THAT's ALL I'M POSTING ON THIS!!!
 
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RoBoT-7x153-

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cfultz3 said:
Robot,

I see that you are young and need of milk and there are plenty of milky things to learn before you can eat meat. Why not learn first so that you will not call God a god of sin.
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GOD doesn't sin, we do! GOD created us, we need CHRIST to make it through!
 
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cfultz3

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RoBoT-7x153- said:
GOD doesn't sin, we do! GOD created us, we need CHRIST to make it through!
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But you are the one who said that God does all and that He created sin. So, what are you saying now?
 
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Laodicea

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RoBoT-7x153- said:
HE does too create sin! Stop telling lies to the sheep or you'll pay for it!

Isaiah 45: 7; I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Deuteronomy 32: 39; See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

This is what you get for lying!
Micah 6: 12-13; For the rich men thereof are full of violence, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth. Therefore also will I make thee sick in smiting thee, in making thee desolate because of thy sins.

Don't lie to people! Go to the WORD before you speak!

Admit who you are, a sinner! Admit who created you, GOD!
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I admit that I am a sinner in need of God's grace, I admit that God created me, I also admit that God has given us free choice.
Isaiah 45:7 means that God permits evil.
Isaiah 47:10-11 KJV
(10) For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.
(11) Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.

Because of the choices they made God permitted evil to come upon them.
 
PopClick

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PopClick said:
I'd be curious to hear the OP's interpretation of Matthew 23:37:

"Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling."
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I'm still curious.
 
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cfultz3

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sounds like Israel is not too happy
 
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celestemekent

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How do you Robot explain evil? If nobody has freewill then how is it possible that evil comes into the world? God would have to create evil for it to exist.
 
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RoBoT-7x153-

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The last thing that needs to be posted. Don't lean on your own understanding......READ HIS WORD AND KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE!!! HIS WORD IS THE TRUTH, WHILE THE MAJORITY LISTEN TO THE WORLD, WHICH IS A LIE!!! ONLY 1 TRUTH, EVERYTHING ELSE IS A LIE!
 
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Broern

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If man has no FREE WILL, maybe God made a mistake or blunder when He created Lucifer with a FREE WILL who used this FREE WILL to revolt against God. God learned a lesson and is now afraid that man can again used this FREE WILL for those He predestinated for salvation and those predestinated going to damnation will used the FREE WILL also to be saved. Therefore He created man minus the FREE WILL. My Bible say that hell was made only for Satan and angels who rebel against Him. But man can use FREE WILL to join the crowd of Satan.

This is not the kind of God that I personally know. My God desire that I serve Him at my own FREE WILL and will to choose Him than the worldly things.
 
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RoBoT-7x153-

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PopClick said:
I'm still curious.
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There's ONLY 1 who does it all.

Deuteronomy 32: 39; See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

GOD IS SOVEREIGN! HE IS JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY 1 WHO HEALS! THE LORD IS THE MASTER AND NONE OTHER!
 
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celestemekent

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Robot still cannot explain the existence of evil unless God created evil.

Even Satan recited scripture to Jesus while He was in the wilderness so lets not get so mired down in excerpts from the Bible.
 
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RoBoT-7x153-

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I'll put it in these words; we are a scab while HE is the neosporin.
 
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Abiding

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RoBoT-7x153- said:
There's ONLY 1 who does it all.

Deuteronomy 32: 39; See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

GOD IS SOVEREIGN! HE IS JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY 1 WHO HEALS! THE LORD IS THE MASTER AND NONE OTHER!
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the fruity one are yummy
 
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RoBoT-7x153-

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celestemekent said:
Robot still cannot explain the existence of evil unless God created evil.

Even Satan recited scripture to Jesus while He was in the wilderness so lets not get so mired down in excerpts from the Bible.
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GOD created us with a sinful nature! We are evil! GOD IS GOOD!
 
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Broern

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Fish are caught in their mouth. If your god is the only one who does it all and sovereign, he created Satan and sins. The god you know is not good god!
The God that I know put His created man in a garden of Eden. He sent Jesus in this world so that no one will ever perished at this dispensation and all to be saved already. Hell is already full of men from previous dispensation who FREE WILL to enjoy the pleasure of this world.
 
Jon4TheCross

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It's simple. The soul is the motivated free will of the concience. There is no such thing as unmotivated free will. Even God is motivated by Love, and God is Love. This then would get into the topic that God is Light. Perhaps this thread is about unmotivated free will. If it's about motivated free will not existing, then we know that is not true. All things are possible, even for God to motivate us (force us) to serve Him willfully, and love willfully.

I love you all.
 
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cfultz3

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RoBoT-7x153- said:
GOD doesn't sin, we do! GOD created us, we need CHRIST to make it through!
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No He does not, but you say that "God created sin". So you are implying that God is a god of offense. And if He is the Creator of "the actions that are taking place", then you are also implying that He causes us to sin, seeing that He is the starter of that action. At one point you say He is the cause of sin and in this post you are saying that He does not sin (correct to say), but yet, causes us to offend Him. This is not logical at all.
 
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