Fallacies of the Present Day Church

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Nov 26, 2012
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lol. If there was NO evidence, there could be no faith. You do not even understand what true faith is. Why don't ya get out of yourself, and try to realize with faith ise and why it is more then mere belief?

is it not funny how science continually proves the existence of a creator? Why is it that scientists continue to ignore this reality? is it not that they are going on FAITH that they are right and all us Christians are wrong, and even though you can't prove it, you still believe there is no God?

It is funny how you slam faith, when it is you are following faith yourself!


for you see. There is more PROOF I am right, then there is lack of proof. And there is more proof you are in error, then lack of proof. So who is it that is really going on faith?
Still no sources for your info? What wackos are you listening to?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Still no sources for your info? What wackos are you listening to?

wackos?

where is your scientific proof there is no God? Your the one who came in here bashing us, it is up to you to prove your points, you don't go into someone elses house and say they have been wrong, and demand they show you proof. you have it backwards.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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I never said there was no God. You have the affirmative position.
I can't prove a negative. It is up to the person making the claim
to provide proof.

How old do you think the earth is?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I never said there was no God. You have the affirmative position.
I can't prove a negative. It is up to the person making the claim
to provide proof.
I only need to provide proof if I am trying to convince myself. or walk into your house and try to convince you that there is a God. otherwise, i do not need to provide proof of anything.

Your the one who came in here, so your the one who has to prove what you are claiming.
How old do you think the earth is?
i do not believe it is billions of years old as many do. But that is my belief, and I do have some evidence which I base my faith off of. But I am not here to convince people why I believe, or that that have to believe as i do. for what would it go to prove? it does not prove there is a god or not a god either way we believe, so it would be a fruitless argument,
 

zone

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I never said there was no God. You have the affirmative position.
I can't prove a negative. It is up to the person making the claim
to provide proof.

How old do you think the earth is?
Reality, may i ask why you self-identified as "christian" in your profile when you clearly are not a christian?
what's your game?
many of us have stood where you stand right now.
the answers you're looking for are up to you to find.

you can take the lazy route; the way of the mocker, or you can just go and seek the truth.
trying to rock the faith of christians won't work. and it won't help you at all.
if you do seek the LORD and find Him, all this stuff will ring in your ears, and add to your shame later:)

Romans 6:21
But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.

for your sake i hope you suffer the agony of repentance.

Luke 13:24
Strive to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

αγωνιζεσθε verb - present middle or passive deponent imperative - second person
agonizomai ag-o-nid'-zom-ahee: to struggle, literally (to compete for a prize), figuratively (to contend with an adversary), or genitive case (to endeavor to accomplish something) -- fight, labor fervently, strive.

it's worth it:)

John 10:7
Therefore Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, I am the gate for the sheep.

John 10:9
I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out, and find pasture.


just sayin'
zone

1 John 5:13
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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This is a public internet forum not someone's house.
 

zone

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This is a public internet forum not someone's house.
oh.
well sometimes a person tries to come in one day, and finds the door is locked.
what are you trying to prove, Reality?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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This is a public internet forum not someone's house.
It is an internet forum of those who believe in God, going on that forum and asking for proof is no different than going into someones house.

Was it that hard to get the pun?


It would be like me going into an athiest forum and demanding proof that there is No God.. and tell them I do not have to prove anything, the burden of proof is on them. it is?? I went in their house and start making accusations. I am the one who has to provide the burden of proof. Not them.
 
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I'm a Mormon but if I were born in ancient Greece I would
have believed in Zeus. Do you have proof that Zeus does
not exist?
 
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Still no sources for your info? What wackos are you listening to?
So I guess from the replies you got that you need to prove to the house you invaded that there is no God, otherwise your words sounds nothing more than mockery of the One you are trying to disprove.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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Here is a fallacy for you guys. Why is Jesus portrayed in pictures/paintings
as a white man? Considering where Jesus was born he probably looked
more middle eastern. Wouldn't you think so?
 
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Here is a fallacy for you guys. Why is Jesus portrayed in pictures/paintings
as a white man? Considering where Jesus was born he probably looked
more middle eastern. Wouldn't you think so?
He is also portrayed as black, brown, red......I guess He is everything to everyone.....
 
Sep 8, 2012
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Looking for proof of God while accepting evolution as truth is moronic.
Are you sure you didn't make a typo?
You claimed to be a mormon,.......
Moron more like.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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Sorry Rick, I can't seem to find the post where I mentioned evolution.
Would you mind pointing it out to me? Also, if evolution were true
couldn't God have guided it? And I really don't think Jesus would
condone name calling.
 
Sep 8, 2012
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You quoted a meaningless "chart" as evidence for your logic.
Any science understood points to a creator.(or intelligent design)

Also Jesus called various people vipers, whited tombs, hypocrites, and He even called a guy an 'old fox' one time.

 
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I never said there was no God. You have the affirmative position.
I can't prove a negative. It is up to the person making the claim
to provide proof.

How old do you think the earth is?
The kingdom of God is within us. - Jesus

Nobody can prove it to you except you. I wont even try to put my beliefs on you. You are you and i am me.
 
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One question I would like to pose to you, though, Reality, is this;

Do you not already know in good nature?

You seem to me to be asking genuine questions and coming with things you genuinely wish to know;

'Show me why you have faith'.

Im sorry you were met with hostility.

The eye sees but the mind doesn't always percieve. Let Rick's anger slide, you are you and he is him :)
 
Sep 8, 2012
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And 'mediate' is 'Gandhi'.
No anger, just answers to an accusatory poster.
B.T.W. - at least I know who I serve and why, 'median'.
Let me guess; 'you like our Christ, but you don't like us Christians', - Gandhi.
Such a nice self fulfilling answer that answers it's own lack of love.
I thought you/him were supposed to be wise?
How wise is it to not like,(much less than love), your neighbor?
 
Nov 26, 2012
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It seems you love thy neighbor just as long as
they believe the same things you do.
 
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No.
That is not true.
I am judging your thoughts.
What do you expect me to say?
Is agreement necessary for love?
If I am showing your error is that not a type of love?
If you see someone walking toward an on coming train(and they are outside your reach),
would you yell at the top of your lungs to stop them?
In a figure that is what I am doing.
It might have seemed rude....but you were rude to others.