Yup. The Hippocratic Oath comes to mind immediately. There are probably others if I took the time to think about it.
Oh Ok good....so an oath taken from people who believed in not one but many Gods and specifically Apollo the healer god that goes a little something like
I swear by Apollo the physician, and Asclepius, and Hygieia and Panacea and all the gods and goddesses as my witnesses, that, according to my ability and judgement, I will keep this Oath and this contract:
To hold him who taught me this art equally dear to me as my parents, to be a partner in life with him, and to fulfill his needs when required; to look upon his offspring as equals to my own siblings, and to teach them this art, if they shall wish to learn it, without fee or contract; and that by the set rules, lectures, and every other mode of instruction, I will impart a knowledge of the art to my own sons, and those of my teachers, and to students bound by this contract and having sworn this Oath to the law of medicine, but to no others.
I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgement, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.
I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.
In purity and according to divine law will I carry out my life and my art.
I will not use the knife, even upon those suffering from stones, but I will leave this to those who are trained in this craft.
Into whatever homes I go, I will enter them for the benefit of the sick, avoiding any voluntary act of impropriety or corruption, including the seduction of women or men, whether they are free men or slaves.
Whatever I see or hear in the lives of my patients, whether in connection with my professional practice or not, which ought not to be spoken of outside, I will keep secret, as considering all such things to be private.
So long as I maintain this Oath faithfully and without corruption, may it be granted to me to partake of life fully and the practice of my art, gaining the respect of all men for all time. However, should I transgress this Oath and violate it, may the opposite be my fate.
Sorry but that does not go back far enough...I asked you were the morality came in the formative years but even then they took to their ethical code as given down by their Gods...oh and it happens to be real similar to what GOD himself commands men to do...but you still think man is basically good right? Contrary again to biblical evidence which I already showed.
???!?!? huh ?!?!
What are you smoking?
I don't smoke. It's pretty clear what I said, you need to look back further into mankinds upbringing and show were he came up with something good on his own. Because again, IF you don't remove God from existance then at no point did man come up with any sort of morals or any ethical way of living. Man is bent on doing evil. The thing you cannot come up with any point in history where mankind said something like murdering is wrong or stealing is wrong or whatever is wrong by himself . Whether you believe in Odin or Apollo or Jesus or the Buddha mans morality came from something other then himself. And since you are a christian you must know that our definitions of right and wrong as a race came from God. Or again do you think man has come up with this on his own?
No, honey, I can't see the steps. I don't even see where you're starting, and I have no idea where you're going with this. As far as I can tell, you're using the words "morality" and "ethics" as if they had some other meaning that I could not even fathom a guess, but it is not what the rest of the world (or at least what the dictionary) says they mean.
I love the dictionary
mor·al
/ˈmôrəl/
Adjective
Concerned with the principles of right and wrong behavior and the goodness or badness of human character.
Noun
A lesson, esp. one concerning what is right or prudent, that can be derived from a story, a piece of information, or an experience.
Synonyms
adjective. ethical - ethic - virtuous
noun. morality - morals - ethics - morale - lesson
eth·ic
/ˈeTHik/
Noun
A set of moral principles, esp. ones relating to or affirming a specified group, field, or form of conduct: "the puritan ethic".
Adjective
Of or relating to moral principles or the branch of knowledge dealing with these.
Synonyms
noun. ethics - moral - morals - morality
adjective. ethical - moral
synonyms plural of syn·o·nym (Noun)
Noun
A word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a...
A person or thing so closely associated with a particular quality or idea that the mention of their name calls it to mind.
You can't say that morality is from God because all of morality is from God. That's called circular logic. And I'm not even sure that's what you were saying. Again, you really need to take a step back and think before you hit that "submit" button.
That's called closing the loop others are leaving open. I'm just telling you where the ability to know right and wrong came from:Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
When God says "I Am that I Am" would you say ''No God that is circular reasoning, you need to provide us with a little more insight and verification."?
This is true. I'm not sure what it has to do with the price of tea in China, but it is true.
It doesn't have anything to do with the price of tea in China or anywhere, it had to do with the conversation, in fact in direct response to your statement, but I have noticed each post you have become more insulting towards me and dismissive of actual responses...and believe me I spend a lot of time before I hit the submit button in order to not participate at that level. Even so I'm sure I've failed in some respects.
This is exactly my point -- It is not the government's place to legislate God's law. Why do you insist on having "man" make laws to do what God says is right or wrong?
What a broad brush....so I'll paint back even broader...maybe just get rid of all laws and let people do as they feel morally obliged?...OR..legislate what seems right by the guidelines of the one who shows us right and wrong.
I'm sure we can keep going back an forth on this with examples , you telling me I'm higher then Ben Franklins kite and just as close to being struck and me trying to be reasonable. HAH! Couldn't resist...