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You know perfectly well that isnt 100% true. You also use the tactic of bringing up
the receiving of the gospel message and use that as a prybar.
Leave it at that and you wouldnt get their contention. You mix then divide.
And then you have a different topic, in doing that quit going back to the requirements
of receiving the gospel. God works in stages with our conversion.
You do this to play people then boast of it. But it doesnt really matter because you catch
yourself sooner or later denying the divinity of Jesus. And your seen when pressed denying the
Lord who bought you. Now what?
the receiving of the gospel message and use that as a prybar.
Leave it at that and you wouldnt get their contention. You mix then divide.
And then you have a different topic, in doing that quit going back to the requirements
of receiving the gospel. God works in stages with our conversion.
You do this to play people then boast of it. But it doesnt really matter because you catch
yourself sooner or later denying the divinity of Jesus. And your seen when pressed denying the
Lord who bought you. Now what?
ABIDING
Below is the reality, as it is for countless people who attend Trinitarian churches in the world today, but who view this subject as I do. And you should accept that, for you know as well as I do the ministers do not demand more than I believe from the pulpit
And personally I applaud them for that. They understand the spiritual reality
now unless someone else wants to engage me on this subject I will retire from it, but if i get goaded to continue, please don't blame me
I have been to Trinitarian churches for over 30 years and got on fine there, had friends, they all accepted me as a Christian, I witnessed of the Lord in them, gave my testimony, helped out at church clubs, it was confirmed I had been 'Baptised in the Spirit'. Everything was fine, no theological problems came up at all
Below is the reality, as it is for countless people who attend Trinitarian churches in the world today, but who view this subject as I do. And you should accept that, for you know as well as I do the ministers do not demand more than I believe from the pulpit
And personally I applaud them for that. They understand the spiritual reality
now unless someone else wants to engage me on this subject I will retire from it, but if i get goaded to continue, please don't blame me
I have been to Trinitarian churches for over 30 years and got on fine there, had friends, they all accepted me as a Christian, I witnessed of the Lord in them, gave my testimony, helped out at church clubs, it was confirmed I had been 'Baptised in the Spirit'. Everything was fine, no theological problems came up at all
Well after reading your post again I feel I must tell you, you do not have a clue as to what matters most to God, none at all. I don't like keep mentioning this but I will to prove my point
A well known evangelist who I had never met before prayed with me and told me much about my life and confirmed I was baptised in the Spirit
So God is quite happy obviously as to how I see him and His Son
Even if some of his children who cram their heads full of theology think themselves wise enough to decide He does not.
A well known evangelist who I had never met before prayed with me and told me much about my life and confirmed I was baptised in the Spirit
So God is quite happy obviously as to how I see him and His Son
Even if some of his children who cram their heads full of theology think themselves wise enough to decide He does not.
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Mark ive never once studied trinity, honestly. In fact im not aware i even use the word.
The nature of God is too much for me to intellectualize anyway. But ive been way too
long in the scriptures to not see who Jesus Christ is.
But also as i said ive never seen anyone preach that trinity is the gospel.
And id bet not many folks ever got saved understanding more than a response
to the gospel which is the power of God unto salvation.
To me its one thing to say you dont see how Jesus could be God. Its
another thing to preach Jesus isnt God.
I told you right off theres not a thing wrong with you contending that
the trinity be left out of the gospel. Im still fine with that. We both know
that it wasnt in the gospel, and isnt in the bible.
As far as your salvation? Thats above my paygrade. But id warn you to
never be dogmatic and preach Jesus isnt God. What you believe and understand
is between you and the Lord. I know He is mercyful. But He also holds us accountable.
The nature of God is too much for me to intellectualize anyway. But ive been way too
long in the scriptures to not see who Jesus Christ is.
But also as i said ive never seen anyone preach that trinity is the gospel.
And id bet not many folks ever got saved understanding more than a response
to the gospel which is the power of God unto salvation.
To me its one thing to say you dont see how Jesus could be God. Its
another thing to preach Jesus isnt God.
I told you right off theres not a thing wrong with you contending that
the trinity be left out of the gospel. Im still fine with that. We both know
that it wasnt in the gospel, and isnt in the bible.
As far as your salvation? Thats above my paygrade. But id warn you to
never be dogmatic and preach Jesus isnt God. What you believe and understand
is between you and the Lord. I know He is mercyful. But He also holds us accountable.
The only thing I stress is the scriptural requirement as to who Christ must be believed to be according to Christ himself unto salvation, and I would warn people who believe they are wise enough to add to that, requirement they are committing sheer and utter folly and it only happens on the internet where people consider themselves wise in their own eyes through studying hugely of theology and approaching learning from a theological mindset of the little grey cells, which is plainly not relying on the Spirit for truth, otherwise they would not contradict the requiremnts of Christ unto salvation
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That well rehearsed mantra is getting old Mark. Really!! I told you how you cause this and play people.
Also your terribly presumptious as if you know anything about anyone, let along people online.
Ive been online 3 years and hardly know anyone that deep and youve been here how long?
See you just have a hobby horse.
Also your terribly presumptious as if you know anything about anyone, let along people online.
Ive been online 3 years and hardly know anyone that deep and youve been here how long?
See you just have a hobby horse.
But you see Abiding whaever you say about me, your doctrinal beliefs, do not convict you beyond this websites, neither do any of the rest who make their extra biblical demands for salvation, that is very clear
I admit to having many faults, but part time Christian beliefs/convictions ain't one of them
All of the problems for you people stem from refusing to accept what is plainly written, which is caused by your reliance on your little grey cells, for the Holy Spirit WOULD NOT AND COULD NOT contradict the requirement of belief Christ laid down as to who he is unto salvation
But you people come on here, turn to Isiaih, John, revelation and whatever book you think can help you, and you eagerly search for ways to prove in effect Christ got it wrong, and you revel in your searching, striving of theology to do this, and you will use the bible to condemn people for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth
the vast majority of church goers would never do that, for they do not come on these websites, and you cannot tell me that doing that is being led of the Spirit into truth
I admit to having many faults, but part time Christian beliefs/convictions ain't one of them
All of the problems for you people stem from refusing to accept what is plainly written, which is caused by your reliance on your little grey cells, for the Holy Spirit WOULD NOT AND COULD NOT contradict the requirement of belief Christ laid down as to who he is unto salvation
But you people come on here, turn to Isiaih, John, revelation and whatever book you think can help you, and you eagerly search for ways to prove in effect Christ got it wrong, and you revel in your searching, striving of theology to do this, and you will use the bible to condemn people for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth
the vast majority of church goers would never do that, for they do not come on these websites, and you cannot tell me that doing that is being led of the Spirit into truth
