The Believers' Birthright and the Christian Traders

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lesjude

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The Believers' Birthright and the Christian Traders
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Jesus is willing and able to forgive a believer's sins when they trust Him alone for that forgiveness which is promised in salvation. A Christian would NEVER tell an unsaved person that Jesus might not be willing to forgive them.

The question becomes why do Christians believe and tell others that it might not be God's will to heal in the light of clear scripture to the contrary?
1. Jesus healed ALL that came to Him.
2. The NT Greek word for salvation includes healing and deliverance from harm and danger in the meaning of the word. Below is an OT covenant promise. Should not believers under the better covenant based on better promises at least have as much as the OT?
3. Psalm 103:1-4
New King James Version (NKJV)
103 Bless the Lord, O my soul;
And all that is within me, bless His holy name!
2 Bless the Lord, O my soul,
And forget not all His benefits:
3 Who forgives all your iniquities,
Who heals all your diseases,
4 Who redeems your life from destruction,
Who crowns you with lovingkindness and tender mercies,
NT PROMISES:
4. James 5:14-15
New King James Version (NKJV)
14 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.

5. Mark 16:17-18
New King James Version (NKJV)
17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they[a] will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

In light of the statement, "these signs will follow those who believe", is it fair to say that either Christians really do not believe or they have traded the blessings for something else just as Esau did? Is God's opinion of doing this the same as His opinion of Esau when he traded his birth right for one morsel of food ? Is God no longer Yaweh Rapha, I Am The God That Heals you? Who has changed,, God or Christians?
Please keep in mind that Satan is described as a merchant and trader in Ezekiel 28:14-19. He has been 'trading' with God's people since the Garden of Eden, and with no small success!

 

crossnote

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I find find most Christians believe God still heals but many say no longer does the 'gift' of healer or 'healing ministry' exist.
 

Angela53510

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Sometimes healing the spirit and growing in maturity is more important than healing the body, which dies in the end anyway.
 
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lesjude

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Sometimes healing the spirit and growing in maturity is more important than healing the body, which dies in the end anyway.
Try telling that to a person who has been told by the medical system they are terminal.
 
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lesjude

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I find find most Christians believe God still heals but many say no longer does the 'gift' of healer or 'healing ministry' exist.
There are few who believe God heals enough to cancel their health insurance and trust God alone.
 

crossnote

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There are few who believe God heals enough to cancel their health insurance and trust God alone.
Yes and then there are some of us who work while trusting God to provide the means. i.e. does one quit their job and just sit at home waiting for God to provide their manna? or do they trust God to provide farmers and stores etc. for their food? Same principle with health. I'Il trust God heals when and where he wants not to my lazy dictates.
 
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lesjude

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Yes and then there are some of us who work while trusting God to provide the means. i.e. does one quit their job and just sit at home waiting for God to provide their manna? or do they trust God to provide farmers and stores etc. for their food? Same principle with health. I'Il trust God heals when and where he wants not to my lazy dictates.
It is not the "same principle with health".
There is clear scripture that states a believer should work, that God provides the work, and his needs by that work. There are clear promises that state it is always God's will to heal trusting Him ALONE with no exceptions IF the conditions are met. It seems laziness would be not finding out God's clear will and the easily met conditions.