The wandering logic to save one's face

[JGPS]

I get tired of debating and having the opponent keep changing the parameters
of the debate.
It's fight or flight, and they all fly away on wings of non sequiturs.

Honestly there is nothing to discuss, you are making false accusations.
In effect, you are saying 3 is 5.
You are not abiding by the rules of debate.
You are making your own rules up as you go.

You're constantly running away and failing to address points, yet you decry the evils of running away and failing to address points.

Rules of debate have not been set, there are a few forms of rules of debate. I'm willing to set them, but push comes to shove you are not.

I am accusing you of things, and presenting the basis for those accusations. That makes them grounded accusations. Just like here, I'm accusing you of hypocrisy because you decry 'them all flying away' then you make haste to fly away yourself when offer a compromise and terms.

You're words are the ground for my accusation against you. You've made plenty of accusations yourself, I would assert they are not grounded. We could discuss them if we where two decent and reasonable Christians. Such is not the case though.

And slightly change what I said, calling into question my cognitive ability.

I call into question your when you say things like this:

he ended up defending Minerva

It would be fun to see the post where I did anything but explain.

 

[JGPS]

Jesus didn't lie though.
You flat out lie.

Posts are all saved. You've made an accusation, back it up with one of my posts.

 

[RickShafer]

Posts are all saved. You've made an accusation, back it up with one of my posts.

I just did, post #19 on this thread.

 

[RickShafer]

You're constantly running away and failing to address points, yet you decry the evils of running away and failing to address points.

Rules of debate have not been set, there are a few forms of rules of debate. I'm willing to set them, but push comes to shove you are not.

I am accusing you of things, and presenting the basis for those accusations. That makes them grounded accusations. Just like here, I'm accusing you of hypocrisy because you decry 'them all flying away' then you make haste to fly away yourself when offer a compromise and terms.

You're words are the ground for my accusation against you. You've made plenty of accusations yourself, I would assert they are not grounded. We could discuss them if we where two decent and reasonable Christians. Such is not the case though.



I call into question your when you say things like this:



It would be fun to see the post where I did anything but explain.

Reread it, from where we started.
Honestly, I don't have time for your nonsense.

 

[JGPS]

I just did, post #19 on this thread.

That's called disagreeing with an assertion, not lieing... I continuously asserted the Word WAS logical reasoning. The Word is God's reasoning, our word is ours...

Its silly to say people are lieing because they disagree with you...

 

[RickShafer]

Your a waste of time.
Bother me no more.

 

[RickShafer]

You just can't logically read what you said.
And I believe you can, so that's why I contend you are not being honest.

 

[RickShafer]

Do you want to know why I blasted you at first?

It was because of this: A man posted ONE time, this was his post.

Im a sex addict and have been one for many year
Hi , I needed prayer because Im a sex addict and cannot break through to victory. To be honest I need a true willingness to press through when things get really intense in the fight. I've always caved when the heat gets to hot. I truly need victory.




JGPS

"Praying for a horny wife sounds like the thing to do.

Do you ask yourself weather you'd stay with the girl forever before you jump her? That might help you keep control till then. Look at every girl you'd do as a girl you couldn't get away from if you did. "


(Is that your idea of ministry?) - ( I wonder why he hasn't been back?)
That's why I blasted you. That man is a living soul, and you showed him no mercy

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[JGPS]

You just can't logically read what you said.
And I believe you can, so that's why I contend you are not being honest.

I presented Justyn Martyrs comments on the relationship between reason and the Logos for a reason...

The only one who can't logically read what I said is you. People in general rarely have trouble understanding me.

 

[JGPS]

Do you want to know why I blasted you at first?

Because you are reprobate, at least somewhat. You didn't engage in a discussion, you reacted with spite without thinking.

(Is that your idea of ministry?) - ( I wonder why he hasn't been back?)

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Yes, praying to meet needs is my idea of ministry. I explained that many times in that thread. One post wonders are common on forums, it may well be that any of the posts after mine drove him off. Heirofchrist going straight into telling people they're going to hell is more likely what drove him off if he indeed ever intended to post again.

 

[RickShafer]

You judge my soul.
You call me a reprobate.
Over and over you have.
Now I am going to forgive you for that.
But I call heaven to testify of it.
God have mercy on you.
Jesus bless you.

 

[JGPS]

You judge my soul.

Scripture does. That is why I posted Romans 1:28-32 and expounded on it.

The judgment of scripture is Gods. You may of course disagree with my exposition, but granted the exposition then the judgment is not mine own.

 

[Chr]

I hear ya Rick I hate it when they do that too.


A fool does not delight in understanding,
But only in revealing his own mind. Proverbs 18:2

 

[Chr]

I hear ya Rick I hate it when they do that too.

I was speaking in general not to anyone specific.In response to people twisting words and ignoring what the bible says.

 

[RickShafer]

Scripture does. That is why I posted Romans 1:28-32 and expounded on it.

The judgment of scripture is Gods. You may of course disagree with my exposition, but granted the exposition then the judgment is not mine own.

You never did expound on anything. You use the same tactics of the accuser.
Claiming words which are not yours to claim. - Standing in the place of God.
How serious.
You will reap it. I said, you will reap everything you sow. - (Meaning, there is no mercy for your soul because you take it upon yourself to judge others soul's, which is only God's place.)
God have mercy on your soul.

 

[JGPS]

No, the accuser uses empty words and threats without backing, like what you're doing, and like what you did from the very first time you entered that other thread...

The presentation and discussion of scripture is consistently something you shy away from in our discussions. Now you're coping out of it again. That says my point about you louder than anything else I've said.

 

[RickShafer]

How can I cop out when your words are empty.
What am I copping out from?
(Please give me something to cop out from, instead of empty wind-bag accusations)
It would be good to have a firm footing on something.
You produce nothing but railings.

 

[JGPS]

You're copping out of discussing scripture, as I said.

You also spoke big about defining terms for a debate, but you coped out of that as soon as I was game for it.

 

[RickyZ]

Do I sense the need for a slap fight commissioner?

 

[JGPS]

That would be fun.

Just gotta make sure there's no anvils in the gloves.