Israel angered over Argentina-Iran bombing probe

zone · Mar 21, 2013

Israel angered over Argentina-Iran bombing probe

By IAN DEITCH | Associated Press – Tue, Jan 29, 2013

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel summoned the Argentinian ambassador on Tuesday in protest over an agreement between Iran and Argentina to jointly investigate the bombing 19 years ago of a Jewish center that killed 85 people in Buenos Aires and that was widely blamed on Tehran.

The terror attack was the deadliest on Argentinian soil, coming just two years after a bomb flattened the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires, killing 29 people.

Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said the Argentina-Iran agreement, which was struck on Sunday, "is like inviting a murderer to investigate the killings he committed."

Argentine prosecutors have formally accused six Iranians of coordinating — under orders from their government — the July 18, 1994, bombing that demolished the Argentine Israelite Mutual Association building.

The center, a symbol for Argentina's Jewish community, was destroyed and 85 people were killed and hundreds more wounded.

Argentine officials have claimed that Iran masterminded the attack while agents of the Lebanese militant Hezbollah group carried it out.

Among those accused of involvement in the community center bombing is Iran's current defense minister, Ahmad Vahidi. The Argentines have spent years seeking to interrogate the six with the help of Interpol, but Iran's government has refused to make them available until now.

On Sunday, Argentine President Cristina Fernandez announced via Twitter that her country and Iran agreed to establish an independent international "truth commission" to investigate the bombing.

The commissioners will examine the evidence and recommend how to proceed, "based on the laws and regulations of both countries," Fernandez said. Then, commissioners and Argentine investigators will travel to Teheran to question the suspects.
The agreement was signed in Africa by Argentinian foreign minister Hector Timerman and his Iranian counterpart Ali Akbar Salehi.

Previous Argentine probes resulted "only in failures and scandal, with a trial that ended up being a farce" after high-level officials were accused of covering up evidence and deliberately misdirecting investigators, Fernandez said in a series of tweets.

Israel angered over Argentina-Iran bombing probe < click

zone · Mar 21, 2013

‘Israel uses AMIA case to thwart Iran-LatAm relations’

A top Iranian diplomat says Israel uses the case of 1994 AMIA Jewish center bombing in the Argentinean capital, Buenos Aires, to obstruct the development of relations between Iran and Latin American states.

“Iran has been charged of being connected with the AMIA incident by a regime which pursues state terrorism. The Zionist regime [of Israel] has been trying hard to disrupt Iran’s regular activities within Latin American countries under the pretext of AMIA bombing incident,” Ramin Mehmanparast said in an interview with IRNA on Saturday.

Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesman added that the Israeli regime has been trying to falsely accuse the Islamic Republic of being involved in terrorist activities despite the fact that the Iranian nation is the biggest victim of terrorism and has always made every effort to eliminate this sinister phenomenon.

“The Zionist regime [of Israel] is still one of the biggest threats to security and stability in all regions including Latin America and this illegitimate regime should not be allowed to have a negative impact on the relations between Iran and the Latin American countries,” Mehmanparast noted.

He also pointed to the recent agreement between Iran and Argentina to set up an international truth commission to investigate the AMIA incident, saying that for the first time efforts are being made to shed light on the truth behind the AMIA incident.

On January 27, Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi and his Argentinean counterpart, Hector Timerman, signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, to shed light on the AMIA bombing in Buenos Aires which left 85 people dead. AMIA stands for the Asociacion Mutual Israelita Argentina or the Argentine Israelite Mutual Association.

Argentina’s Senate on February 21 gave the green light to the agreement with Iran on the AMIA case with the senators voting 39-31 in favor of the MoU. Argentinean lawmakers later signed the agreement into law after a 14-hour session with 131 ayes against 113 nays.

Argentinean President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner and Timerman have also endorsed the agreement, which stipulates that the fact-finding commission, composed of five foreign legal experts, should issue a report after carrying out an evaluation of Argentina’s investigation into the issue.

Under intense political pressure from the US and Israel, Argentina had formally accused Iran of having carried out the bomb attack. The Islamic Republic has categorically denied any involvement in the terrorist bombing.

PressTV - ‘Israel uses AMIA case to thwart Iran-LatAm relations’ < click

zone · Mar 21, 2013

A year before they changed places, then President Nestor Kirchner, his wife Cristina and Foreign Minister (then and now) Jorge Taiana, held a secret meeting in the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City on 21 September 2006, with eight major Zionist pro-Israel organizations, including The American Jewish Congress, B’Nai B’Rith, ADL and others.

We don’t know what they discussed because, as I say, it was held in secret; but, one month later, the Kirchners dispatched special prosecutor Alberto Nisman to the US, where he met with CIA and Mossad agents and, upon his return, launched a formal accusation against the former Iranian government of Ali Rafsanjani. The judge hearing this case at the time, Dr. Rodolfo Canicoba Corral, immediately obliged by accepting it.

This was headline news and prompted Rabbi Israel Singer, the political director of the World Jewish Congress, to “congratulate the Argentine government” as Argentina’s accusation against Iran “confirmed the commitment the Kirchners undertook during that secret meeting”. Commitment? To do what? Why? In exchange for what? [1]

False Flag Attacks in Argentina: 1992 and 1994 | Debunking the Islamic Trail < click

jimmydiggs · Mar 21, 2013

Iran can't be trusted, and shouldn't be an ally to Latin America. That being said, I don't understand why an investigation is so bad. I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job, but "oh the terror!" at a suggestion that it might be, and maybe we should investigate.

RachelBibleStudent · Mar 21, 2013

jimmydiggs said:

well it was already investigated...certain people just want to keep 'reinvestigating' until they get the answer they want to hear...

kirchner cannot be trusted either...and no doubt she will be overseeing the appointment of the 'investigators' revisiting the bombing...

Drett · Mar 21, 2013

I think people actually under estimate the evil in the decision process in the US and Israeli governments.

You have key figures throughout Israeli history stating that they will use war as a means to confiscate Palestinian land. How do you get war ? You oppress people to the point they fight back. This can be done by separating them from hospitals, schools and their fields etc. There was Admission in Israel that they actually control the media so they can keep a lid on it.

The Lockerbie bombing, the key witness changed his statement, implicating Libya after a considerable amount of money was sent to him from the US.

Operation Northwood where the US was to fake a terrorist attack to give them the mandate to attack Cuba. Some say JFK was assassination because he stopped it.

You have a building falling down in New York in sympathy. Eye witnesses of the plane stated the plane had no markings.

The list just goes on and people let the controlled media lead them by the nose.

Lucky I believe that a judgement day is coming and I also believe in the just God of the old testament that will apply justice where it is due.

Drett · Mar 21, 2013

jimmydiggs said:

Well the media keep telling us that Iran can't be trusted. Have you had a look at how the leader lives ? He lives a very simple life. The poor in Iran love him. What he does may be wrong in some cases but he feels it is right. In contrast the leaders i US and Israel know it is wrong and keep a lid on it with their controlled press.

Ahmedinejad, we are told "joins the cleaning staff of the municipality for cleaning the streets in the area where his home and the Presidency are located." Nigerian leaders definitely cannot clean streets. What kind of thing is that? When a man becomes even a common state Commissioner in Nigeria, he becomes an invalid. He cannot be seen doing things that ordinary people do. The excuse for the irresponsible conduct of Nigerian public officials is codified in that notorious word: "Protocol", now elevated into a special code of conduct. Nigerian leaders cannot clean streets, visit friends, stop by the roadside to buy roasted corn; their wives cannot cook in the kitchen, their children cannot mix with old neighbours, protocol won't allow that. This same bogey called protocol makes it difficult for ordinary people to have access to their leaders, it places the people at a lower and farther distance and turns them into the servants of the same persons who should be serving them.

Lifestyle Of Iranian President - A Lesson For Our Leaders - Politics - Nairaland

JimJimmers · Mar 21, 2013

I doubt people saw a plane about to hit a skyscraper and thought "Hey! That plane has no markings!" Plus, why would the U.S. government do such a sloppy job at copying the plane?

jimmydiggs · Mar 21, 2013

Drett said:

Well the media keep telling us that Iran can't be trusted. Have you had a look at how the leader lives ? He lives a very simple life. The poor in Iran love him. What he does may be wrong in some cases but he feels it is right. In contrast the leaders i US and Israel know it is wrong and keep a lid on it with their controlled press.

Ahmedinejad, we are told "joins the cleaning staff of the municipality for cleaning the streets in the area where his home and the Presidency are located." Nigerian leaders definitely cannot clean streets. What kind of thing is that? When a man becomes even a common state Commissioner in Nigeria, he becomes an invalid. He cannot be seen doing things that ordinary people do. The excuse for the irresponsible conduct of Nigerian public officials is codified in that notorious word: "Protocol", now elevated into a special code of conduct. Nigerian leaders cannot clean streets, visit friends, stop by the roadside to buy roasted corn; their wives cannot cook in the kitchen, their children cannot mix with old neighbours, protocol won't allow that. This same bogey called protocol makes it difficult for ordinary people to have access to their leaders, it places the people at a lower and farther distance and turns them into the servants of the same persons who should be serving them.

Lifestyle Of Iranian President - A Lesson For Our Leaders - Politics - Nairaland

The Inuit people live a rather simple life. I don't think that by default makes them trustworthy people.

Drett · Mar 22, 2013

jimmydiggs said:

Many simple people change when they have power. You just need to see Papua New Guinea politics to see that. This is not just a simple life. He is working with the community, making himself accessible to the average joe.

AgeofKnowledge · Mar 22, 2013

Exactly. Well said.

jimmydiggs said:

Drett · Mar 22, 2013

JimJimmers said:

Perhaps a question for the eye witnesses ?

There were No Windows On Flight 175 September 11 2001 - YouTube

zone · Mar 22, 2013

Drett said:

oh drett....silly

they don't want to know.
you know what the ramifications are.....

zone · Mar 22, 2013

RachelBibleStudent said:

she got a threat from a local member of the jewish community telling her isf she proceeded with the investigation "something else would blow up".

rachel, israel hates iran.
they hated Iraq, and though saddam has nothing to do with 9-11, and he had no WMD....those people got massacred.
Bibi wants Iran bombed as an existential threat - meaning ONE DAY THEY MIGHT HURT US....SO WE HAVE TO BOMB THEM NOW.

they have a history of false flag terror - surely you know about the King David Hotel affair....dressed as Arabs....caught in the act. too late though.
and they brag about it.

Israel is an agressive, paranoid nation with no qualms about it's actions.
Iran hasn't attacked another nation in 250 years.

and they not only have a right to nuclear power...why shouldn't they have the bomb?
Israel's got 500-600 MEGA nukes at Dimona, and it refuses to declare them, and to sign the Global treaties.
and it will use them..on anybody they choose.

i know who i think is the neighborhood bully in that region.
it ain't Iran.

i'd rather live in Iran than Israel.

jimmydiggs · Mar 22, 2013

zone said:

I have no preference. Both Jews and Muslims hate Christians. I haven't seen as many Jews beheading Christians though. This whole playing favorites game is discrediting any prophetic voice in the matter.

Drett · Mar 22, 2013

zone said:

Good old cognitive dissonance.

Drett · Mar 22, 2013

jimmydiggs said:

Yes it is a vicious cycle alright. US kill 500,000 iraqi children with medical sanctions. Some hot heads get upset and take revenge.

Madeleine Albright Defends Mass-Murder of iraqi Children (500,000 Children dead) - YouTube

US use depleted uranium in Iraq resulting in high rate of cancer and deformities in children. More hotheads are created.

The US send drones and kill more children. Even more hot heads are created.

zone · Mar 22, 2013

jimmydiggs said:

what prophetic voice?

it was a personal preference stated.

i'm tired of the propaganda we see on our MSM. sick of it really.

it's not so much how the Christian is treated - it's the national mindset and worldview i'm referring to.

Christians are a protected minority (with varying degrees of protection to be sure), able to hold public office, attend university, live normal lives, and some of their communities date all the way back to Acts 2.

obviously they don't live with the same "freedom" and "democracy" either the U.S, or Israel has...but frankly i don't need strip clubs, gambling, hollywood, 1000 channels of sales junk and sex, or the Housewives of Orange County.

i would have no problem wearing hijab and respecting local customs. behaving as a decent and productive member of society. i have no need for political activism. with those concerns addresses, basic evangelism and missionary work is existent.

i honestly don't know enough about Iran, but i certainly know enough about Israel to make a choice - if i had to.
my best friend ( a jew) lived in Israel..he said he'd never go back...for the reasons mentioned (and more - he's a jew who converted to Christianity).

Iranian Tourism Official Website < click tourism slide show

Before the revolution, Jews were well-represented among Iran's business elite, holding key posts in the oil industry, banking and law, as well as in the traditional bazaar. The wave of anti-Israeli sentiment that swept Iran during the revolution, as well as large-scale confiscations of private wealth, sent thousands of the more affluent Jews fleeing to the United States or Israel. Those remaining lived in fear of pogroms, or massacres.

But Khomeini met with the Jewish community upon his return from exile in Paris and issued a ''fatwa'' decreeing that the Jews were to be protected. Similar edicts also protect Iran's tiny Christian minority.

IRAN: Life of Jews Living in Iran < click

that "revolution" was the CIAs doing, btw.
meddling in Iran's internal affairs and not liking the outcome...what else is new?

Drett · Mar 22, 2013

I wonder why relations soured US and Iran.

Relations were cordial between Iran and US up until World War 2. The US were seen as the more favoured Western country by Iran. After World War 2 the relationship soured when the government of Mohammad Mossadeq was overthrown by a coup organized by the CIA.

“rising internal tensions and continued deterioration ... might lead to a breakdown of government authority and open the way for at least a gradual assumption of control” ***

*** Gasiorowski writing in Mohammad Mosaddeq and the 1953 Coup in Iran, Edited by Mark J. Gasiorowski and Malcolm Byrne, Syracuse University Press, 2004, p.230-1

The good old US behind the scenes manipulating. Hopeful for Iran to have rising tensions and general deterioration. I guess they got that in spades.

Jimmy Carter providing several billions dollars support for Suddam Hussain war against the Iran also didn’t help relations with the US. In 1982 Ronald Reagan continued supplying weapons etc to Iraq for the express purpose to invade Iran.

File:Shakinghands high.OGG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fuzzy video of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam. The US used Iraq as a pawn to attack Iran. We all saw what happened to Iraq after it served its purpose. Dead men tell no tales.

On July 3, 1988, near the end of the Iran–Iraq War, the U.S. Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes shot down Iranian Airbus A300B2, which was on a scheduled commercial flight in Iranian airspace over the Strait of Hormuz. The attack killed 290 civilians from six nations, including 66 children. USS Vincennes was in the Persian Gulf as part of Operation Earnest Will. The United States initially contended that flight 655 was a warplane and then said that it was outside the civilian air corridor and did not respond to radio calls. Both statements were untrue, and the radio calls were made on military frequencies to which the airliner did not have access.
Washington Post, January 11, 2008, “Iranian Boats May Not Have Made Radio Threat, Pentagon Says,” Iranian Boats May Not Have Made Radio Threat, Pentagon Says1988: US warship shoots down Iranian airliner

What did George H W Bush say about the killing of all those Iranian civilians on that airliner after being confronted with all these facts/ A heart felt apology perhaps ... well no

"I'll never apologize for the United States of America. Ever. I don't care what the facts are."

Who are the bad guys again ?

zone · Mar 22, 2013

What Did We Learn From Israel’s Sneak Attack on the U.S.S. Liberty?

The U.S.S. Liberty after the Israeli sneak attack
which murdered 34 Americans and wounded 171 others.

By Bob Johnson
Saturday, May 26th, 2012

Editor’s note: Today, Vice President Biden said that if you attack the United States we will hunt you down. We are waiting, Mr. Vice President.

There are 33 American military members and one American civilian contractor who died terrifying horrific deaths and 174 Americans who were horribly wounded due to Israel’s sneak attack on the virtually unarmed American intelligence ship the U.S.S. Liberty on June 8, 1967.

These dead and wounded men were deemed useless to the U.S. political wh**** in Washington. That is why the cowardly war-mongering Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, after ordering American fighter jets that were on their way to save the Americans on the U.S.S. Liberty from their Jewish butchers back to their carriers said, “President [Lyndon] Johnson is not going to go to war or embarrass an American ally over a few sailors.”

Today we are coming very close to showing that we are still just as unthinking and naive as ever by moving closer to a war that will greatly benefit Israel and harm America and the rest of the world. This time the war will be with Iran. Currently the politicians are going through the same routine as they did in the build up for the unnecessary war for Israel’s benefit with Iraq. They are holding talks with the Iranians over Iran’s nuclear program. Even though it takes uranium enrichment of 90 percent to be usable for a nuclear weapon and Iran hasn’t come anywhere close to that, the media and government are squawking that Iran already has enough enriched uranium to build five nuclear bombs! Add to this the fact that Israel already has a growing nuclear stockpile, submarines to deliver them virtually from anywhere on the globe and also has biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction and no U.S. politician or any politician in Europe, Canada or Australia is calling for open inspections of Israeli REAL AND EXISTING WMD and it becomes painfully crystal clear that we have learned absolutely nothing from the Israeli sneak attack on the U.S.S. Liberty. We have not learned that Israel’s inhumane brutality and raw aggression exhibited on the men of the U.S.S. Liberty instructs thinking minds that Israel should NEVER be allowed to have WMD of any kind.

What Did We Learn From Israel’s Sneak Attack on the U.S.S. Liberty? | Veterans Today < click

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