Is It Possible To Go 24 Hours WITHOUT A SIN?
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This thread is already going in circles, and it's only page 1...
Ya can't win an argument with someone who is perfect. All us lowly sinners are just boosting their pride by even discussing the topic of sin, building their pedestals a little bit higher by admitting that we fall short of the glory of God, and they apparently don't.
Ya can't win an argument with someone who is perfect. All us lowly sinners are just boosting their pride by even discussing the topic of sin, building their pedestals a little bit higher by admitting that we fall short of the glory of God, and they apparently don't.
Nope the blood cleanse us, the NEW SPIRIT keeps us clean/holy/without sin/perfect! You see this is where you people are confused by the many false teachings... The blood is a ONE TIME THING... It cleanse PERFECTLY ONCE!
After the blood what happened... HE ROSE UP FROM THE DEAD TO LIVE!!!!
If God resurrect you.... BORN AGAIN. yuo get a NEW HEART. A NEW SPIRIT, A NEW LIFE. A GODLY LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS! And there IS NO SIN IN THAT LIFE. OR IN GOD, OR IN CHRIST or in YOU!
Remember God saying... NOBODY PUTS NEW WINE IN OLD SACKS? Well God does not either... THE NEW YOU IS A NEW SACK and NE WINE.... LIKE HE WANTS IT! PERFECT!
MISS CHRIS I am the biggest sinner here, so I do not know who is the perfect people you talk about? But the fact that I need God's salvation cannot stop me from turning to lies about how pwoerful HE SAVES...
And where do you think salvation is Radius? You say if a person is saved he should not go on sinning..... God says those that endures to the end shall be saved.... To the end of WHAT? What is this END God talks about here?
There is not continuence of washing, there is no ADDING grace.... PAul said, shall we continue to sin so grace can be abound? GOD FORBID!!!! My friends, I teach the Truth.... If salvation= saved=born again= Holy Spirit filled= made perfect= God's grace and finished work ALL IS GOD'S WILL TO MAKE THE SAINTS PERFECT...
Eph 4:11 to 13... UNTO A PERFECT MAN... God says!!!
The love covering sins is NOT BLOOD, it is me forgiving you a sin! In the Love of Jesus I will forgive ALL WHO SIN AGAINST ME.... Me learning grace and forgiveness.... God does not have to learn how to forgive... HE KNOWS HOW, we have to learn!
After the blood what happened... HE ROSE UP FROM THE DEAD TO LIVE!!!!
If God resurrect you.... BORN AGAIN. yuo get a NEW HEART. A NEW SPIRIT, A NEW LIFE. A GODLY LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS! And there IS NO SIN IN THAT LIFE. OR IN GOD, OR IN CHRIST or in YOU!
Remember God saying... NOBODY PUTS NEW WINE IN OLD SACKS? Well God does not either... THE NEW YOU IS A NEW SACK and NE WINE.... LIKE HE WANTS IT! PERFECT!
MISS CHRIS I am the biggest sinner here, so I do not know who is the perfect people you talk about? But the fact that I need God's salvation cannot stop me from turning to lies about how pwoerful HE SAVES...
And where do you think salvation is Radius? You say if a person is saved he should not go on sinning..... God says those that endures to the end shall be saved.... To the end of WHAT? What is this END God talks about here?
There is not continuence of washing, there is no ADDING grace.... PAul said, shall we continue to sin so grace can be abound? GOD FORBID!!!! My friends, I teach the Truth.... If salvation= saved=born again= Holy Spirit filled= made perfect= God's grace and finished work ALL IS GOD'S WILL TO MAKE THE SAINTS PERFECT...
Eph 4:11 to 13... UNTO A PERFECT MAN... God says!!!
The love covering sins is NOT BLOOD, it is me forgiving you a sin! In the Love of Jesus I will forgive ALL WHO SIN AGAINST ME.... Me learning grace and forgiveness.... God does not have to learn how to forgive... HE KNOWS HOW, we have to learn!
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There is no verse in the Bible that teaches Jesus' blood covers sin???? What about Isaiah 53, which speaks about our Lord? It says in part "He was wounded for our transgressions, crushed for our iniquities. Upon him was the punishment that made us whole, and by his bruises we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray. We have all turned to our own ways. And the Lord has laid upon him the iniquities of us all." Read the whole of Isaiah 53. If this isn't talking about Jesus, whom is it talking about?
I have said the same thing misscris has said. you are wasting your time talking to " perfect people". they are never going to come off their positions and admit they make mistakes. it is so, so dangerous to try to separate sin into intentional and unintentional catagories as this leads to a lot of " it wasn't my fault" or I did not do anything wrong.
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You just stated a fact these perfectionalists will never understand.
Sinless perfection IS PERFECT LOVE. it is the love of God.. we can not go 24 hrs/day without failing to show perfect love. Thus we can not go 24 hours/day sinless.
we will not be able to do this until we are in heaven, and have the glorified bodies unable to sin, the flesh GONE.
Until then. as John said, anyone who claims to have no sin (declares he is sinless perfect) is a liar and he deceives himself.
if these people want to decieve themselves into thinking they are sinless. I guess let them. let the rest of us learn to be like Paul. Grow in Christ daily. the more we grow in Christ, the more sinful we realize we truly are, and the less deserving we think we will ever be.
Sinless perfection IS PERFECT LOVE. it is the love of God.. we can not go 24 hrs/day without failing to show perfect love. Thus we can not go 24 hours/day sinless.
we will not be able to do this until we are in heaven, and have the glorified bodies unable to sin, the flesh GONE.
Until then. as John said, anyone who claims to have no sin (declares he is sinless perfect) is a liar and he deceives himself.
if these people want to decieve themselves into thinking they are sinless. I guess let them. let the rest of us learn to be like Paul. Grow in Christ daily. the more we grow in Christ, the more sinful we realize we truly are, and the less deserving we think we will ever be.
J
We probably do sin everyday. But if we are His child we ask forgiveness and He forgives us. First we have to be His child by believing in Him, repenting of our sins, confessing Jesus as Son of God, and being baptized. Mark 16:15 &16, Acts 2:38, 1 Peter 3:21 etc. We have to obey all of God's commands in the New Testament and when we fall short and sin we have prayer to ask for forgiveness.
Do you really find it that hard not to lust after a girl? I mean, few people like the fairer sex so much as me, but it's really not hard to think of off limits girls as freinds or sisters rather than lust after them... Even if you do find it that hard, surely you aren't faced with this every single day.
Set the theological perfectionism debate a side for a bit. In that post you're just making excuses for not controlling yourself...
Set the theological perfectionism debate a side for a bit. In that post you're just making excuses for not controlling yourself...