Am I in error?

[Powemm]

My spiritual mentor encouraged ME to be quiet about the things God showed me when I was learning... and to let HIM use others to confirm those things to me... that was my beginning training in walking in the spirit and as a matter of fact... I have learned over the years... if I stay quiet... I then never mistakenly interfere with anything... because the Demons are listening and whispering too.
Also...the Lord as my husband... I would not go repeating everything my human husband said to me (if I had one) so I kept this principal also. Often... when I am speaking by the spirit.. it isn't a matter of "God said such and such... it's more like later
I think... gosh "where did THAT come from?" or a person will tell me... "THe Lord rally spoke to me in your words" and I'll be like "REALLY?... halleluja!!!

Thank you! some good points I will weigh carefully

 

[Powemm]

I just know that it would be difficult to convince me that I had received a valid prophecy if I had. I wouldn't take audible, disembodied voices as evidence either. Might not even take visions alone as evidence - although they'd be very pursuasive at first. I think first the receipt of a prophecy, a prayer to the one true God for a sign, the receipt of that sign, and then asking again for another sign and receiving another sign. Then I would probably believe the prophecy was valid.

Before this started happening , I was working in the medical field , not looking or even thinking upon these things.. I didnt know such things even happened to people ... I do know it terrified me.. I didn't know if I had had a stroke because my face was numb lips tingly , and as far as audible voices? Wasn't an audible voice .. A whisper, not describable as male or female .. And it's a little difficult to ignor the words coming at you that say
"eye of God" "army of God" "word of God"
I didn't know what any of that was ... I do know after the occurrences I literally had to lay down.. Being in the medical field I knew what was happening was something other than medical... Medicine has no explanation for it ... Not this ...
I didn't trust it... That's why I sought it out .. I didn't want to be afraid of it .. But it terrified me so I set out on a journey to see if anyone else had anything like this happen .. through many many many hours of looking and digging .. I ended up here.. Where the first of answers came ...(Ken, I Can not thank you enough !!) ..
I didn't trust it because I didn't know who and what it was.. Now? I still won't be prepared, because there is no control when it happens ... I totally get what you're saying ... I Can't see how keeping quiet about it helps anything or anyone else who may be going through it... I winder how many have been put in mental homes for it .. had I been quiet about it... I wouldn't be where I am now nor would I have become closer in my relationship with God ... Seek and you shall find, knock and He will answer.... I'm not willing to keep a basket over it ... I now believe however, there is a seasoning to it.. being able to identify , sort of like when markup
Posted about a particular community ... it was marker .. And I backed up to take a look and ask him some questions that lead to a treasure! Thank you mark!!

 

[Powemm]

I've never had a prophesy,dream or vision. Never heard an audible voice thinking it was God,an angel or demon. When I "hear" from God it's mainly just sort of a word picture in my head,unfortunately narrated by someone that sounds a lot like me,but maybe has a more mellow tone to his voice. lol Not sure as if I'd want that gift or blessing...looking back in the bible at all the prophets,it seems like they had a tough road mapped out for them. People think I'm crazy enough now & I think God knows how pathetic & weak of a person I am,so he spares me things like visions. He more than likely knows my fat little head would go BANG!

who did God use to cast Satan out of heaven ? The strongest or the weakest...? Don't be so sure about that lol... Besides.. Just look at those wings of yours ..
I remember driving down the road .. my hour drive to and from work everyday, I had a lot of time.. I chose to spend that time just talking to God about everything.. Asking Him all sorts of questions , sharing emotions I hadn't shared with anyone ..
Then came a day where I realized in a "reality" level I hadn't handed him
Over my life .. I mean really hand it over.. I was driving and began thinking about what this meant.. Was I willing to be mamed ? willing to be crippled ? Willing to loose my eyesight, all sorts of things came.. My palms began sweating.... I thought in this for a very long time .. I said I had already, said he could have it .. I "said".....
it was in my drive home I made the decision .. Yes lord my life ... If I am a useable vessel, make me useable .. I am open to the things of you and available if I am even worth such a thing ...
not because I thought i could handle it ..but because I knew He could .. I will say ... that in this I have learned one thing ..
the rejection of god getting into man ? Is going to be terrifying when He comes if man doesnt let Him in now...it will be so , insanity will spread like a disease ..many will drop from heart failure .. the world has no idea what's coming ..I know in just the
Little bit Wich is nothing that ive seen , almost cost me mine .. It's in the "getting into agreement with God" of not leaning on my own understanding but trusting Him... That spared me from
It ...

 

[Powemm]

My wife and I used to argue about this all the time. I did the research and the math. And I found a book from 1860 or so that said that the massive increase of earthquakes then proved the second coming was just about to occur. There has been no increase in earthquakes at any time since records were first kept in maybe 300BC. We are getting better at reporting them, however. It did not impress her. Funny, it's irrelevant to her, as she is with Jesus now, and I'm still here to count earthquakes.

I agree with you 100% on this Ken..
I dont believe tornadoes are any different than what they've always been.. mans increase of "things"
has gotten so built up He wants to blame God for it when what man calls "destruction " comes..
tornadoes , hurricanes, floods cleanse the earth.. It is what cleanse the beaches .. Landscapes and debri..

earthquakes remind me how an eye focuses in.. it moves .

 

[Markum1972]

Powemm, I just want to say one thing, that I'm not sure was addressed, although Zero and Ken may have addressed it. When reading scripture, never look at just one verse, always look for full context. That means, looks for verses before and after, to see if other scripture helps to explain it. Otherwise, you might be like the woman who opened the Bible found a verse that said "And Judas hanged himself." Closed it, open again and found another that said, "Go and do likewise."

LOL That is awesome and gave me a great laugh! It is also very wise advice.

 

[Markum1972]

who did God use to cast Satan out of heaven ? The strongest or the weakest...? Don't be so sure about that lol... Besides.. Just look at those wings of yours ..
I remember driving down the road .. my hour drive to and from work everyday, I had a lot of time.. I chose to spend that time just talking to God about everything.. Asking Him all sorts of questions , sharing emotions I hadn't shared with anyone ..
Then came a day where I realized in a "reality" level I hadn't handed him
Over my life .. I mean really hand it over.. I was driving and began thinking about what this meant.. Was I willing to be mamed ? willing to be crippled ? Willing to loose my eyesight, all sorts of things came.. My palms began sweating.... I thought in this for a very long time .. I said I had already, said he could have it .. I "said".....
it was in my drive home I made the decision .. Yes lord my life ... If I am a useable vessel, make me useable .. I am open to the things of you and available if I am even worth such a thing ...
not because I thought i could handle it ..but because I knew He could .. I will say ... that in this I have learned one thing ..
the rejection of god getting into man ? Is going to be terrifying when He comes if man doesnt let Him in now...it will be so , insanity will spread like a disease ..many will drop from heart failure .. the world has no idea what's coming ..I know in just the
Little bit Wich is nothing that ive seen , almost cost me mine .. It's in the "getting into agreement with God" of not leaning on my own understanding but trusting Him... That spared me from
It ...

Wow!

You have captured what EVERY servant goes through. In all cases that I have heard of those that testify of God's greatness and witness of Him speaking to them and showing them things (sometimes in dreams and visions), the one thing that all have had in common is that they have had that moment in which they gave them self to Him; even as He also gave His son to us. We love Him because He first loved us.

We also know that it is not something that we can do in and of ourselves. We ask God to MAKE us a servant of His. He is the creator and the finisher of His work.

Keep proclaiming it boldly to the people! Testify and bear witness of the Spirit of God and the liberty that we were given through His son, Jesus Christ.

Know that your brethren that are in the world suffer through the same trials and same persecution as you, and that we all have that same spirit to comfort us and find comfort also in one another.

For any that may also desire but have not yet asked. Ask God to make you a servant to Him. Trust Him that He is more than able to do all things; even raising the very dead as He raises up a mighty people in these last of the last days.

All of the glory, honor, and praise be to our God! Amen.

 

[Powemm]

LOL That is awesome and gave me a great laugh! It is also very wise advice.

That was an awesome roast!!!! LOL!!
and yes amen ! I receive your wisecat , beautifully purring words of wisdom viola, you sassy thing!!!!! LOVE IT!!! Hugs !!
Oh this so made me laugh!! Thank you!


Oops this was supposed to have viola cats post .. Trade places with her mark right now ..

 

[Powemm]

Powemm, I just want to say one thing, that I'm not sure was addressed, although Zero and Ken may have addressed it. When reading scripture, never look at just one verse, always look for full context. That means, looks for verses before and after, to see if other scripture helps to explain it. Otherwise, you might be like the woman who opened the Bible found a verse that said "And Judas hanged himself." Closed it, open again and found another that said, "Go and do likewise."

There's the roast em and smokem post .lol. Awesome!

 

[violakat]

And ADHD is what teachers call it when they are tired of questions they can't answer from kids who are smarter than they are. It lets them drug the kids so they don't have to be bothered. [Okay, teachers, now you can all tell me I'm wrong about that. It was a little different when I was in school, but I saw it nonetheless. We didn't have drugs, but we did have punishment.]

You have obviously never been around a kid that literally could not focus or sit down for more then 5 seconds. As for using drugs, I don't think that's necessarily the solution. Maybe running around for 30 min. to an hour would help, as it did in the case of the one who literally could not focus.

 

[violakat]

That was an awesome roast!!!! LOL!!
and yes amen ! I receive your wisecat , beautifully purring words of wisdom viola, you sassy thing!!!!! LOVE IT!!! Hugs !!
Oh this so made me laugh!! Thank you!


Oops this was supposed to have viola cats post .. Trade places with her mark right now ..

That Mark just likes to take over the posts, doesn't he.

 

[Shouryu]

And ADHD is what teachers call it when they are tired of questions they can't answer from kids who are smarter than they are. It lets them drug the kids so they don't have to be bothered. [Okay, teachers, now you can all tell me I'm wrong about that. It was a little different when I was in school, but I saw it nonetheless. We didn't have drugs, but we did have punishment.]

I don't call my students AD anything. I always have a few rambunctious ones, but they're all fine once I get an instrument into their hand. In fact, my partner and I are notorious through our school for frustrating other teachers.

"Hey Shour, you've got Daniel, right? We can't get him to settle down and focus on the task at hand. He's always up, talking to someone. How do you and Jeremy deal with him?"
"Don't know what you're talking about. He's perfectly fine in my class. Jer doesn't have problems with him either."
"Ha ha, funny. Really, though."
"Not joking. Really. I don't know what you all's [sorry, I'm in Texas] problem with Daniel is...but we don't have it."

 

[Powemm]

i was just about to post to the first part, "it's whatever definition God tells you to put your faith in", but then I was going to add, I think you are called with a lot to share, deeper than most I have seen, and I have seen a lot. I am not sure about the venue, or how God will work it out. There is an inherent call in your visions that the Body of Christ is not hearing from anyone nationally or internationally at this point. Like a missing piece of the jigsaw puzzle for the upcoming generation. My post meant that I think you are called to be a mover and shaker in the Kingdom.

And ADHD is what teachers call it when they are tired of questions they can't answer from kids who are smarter than they are. It lets them drug the kids so they don't have to be bothered. [Okay, teachers, now you can all tell me I'm wrong about that. It was a little different when I was in school, but I saw it nonetheless. We didn't have drugs, but we did have punishment.]

I believe it's finding the right "spoke" or "channel" to "plug" their gifts "into."
I was just talking to my sister in law about this .. My oldest son was also labeled as such ..
I can't tell you how many days I actually sat in his classroom to observe what what was happening .. I made the suggestion to the teacher that we'd was a child who needed His energy channeled into short tasks .. Peeling crayons, dusting out the chalk board erasers, watering the plants , replacing materials .. He always finished his work first .. And could not sit still.. Only "one" teacher listened and it worked.. Not only was her time management increased. It was tue best grade he ever did in.. I think the gifts are supressed more than used .. Everyone has a spot in the kingdom.. everyone will have a suitable task .. everyone is a "piece"... I will say I do believe part of the suppression of " talking about it". Keeps us from " hearing"
The truth about who we are in christ . God didn't give us these gifts to be put under a lampshade ..
He wants the lamp "on" the table.. Not under it .. I'm surprised no one else is talking about these things ... I figured everyone would be... I guess thats why I just started talking openly about whats been going on so care free.. I was pretty surprised really how challenging it was until I came to cc.. Its been a huge blessing to be a part of this group... I feel a responsibility on my end to open a door for someone else who may walk here by accident looking for hope in the same thing.. there are generations that will be... so I guess my question is... when does the renewing, restoring and rebuilding take place, if we ourselves don't lay down our stone so they can see further into Gods kingdom?

 

[Powemm]

I don't call my students AD anything. I always have a few rambunctious ones, but they're all fine once I get an instrument into their hand. In fact, my partner and I are notorious through our school for frustrating other teachers.

"Hey Shour, you've got Daniel, right? We can't get him to settle down and focus on the task at hand. He's always up, talking to someone. How do you and Jeremy deal
"Don't know what you're talking about. He's perfectly fine in my class. Jer doesn't have problems with him either."
"Ha ha, funny. Really, though."
"Not joking. Really. I don't know what you all's [sorry, I'm in Texas] problem with Daniel is...but we don't have it."

That's what I call " plugged in" if those teachers pay attention.. What's he doing ? All his "gifts" are what I call " plugged " Channeled into "one" area .. movers and shakers are extremely " multi tasked" people. Can do "several things" at one time..
don't get all those talents plugged properly and one prong is hanging out? the piece doesn't operate properly.. I took my oldest to a developmental specialist.. two questions they asked that lead me to this "multipronged " system were . They handed him a pencil .. And simply proceeded to speak with him.. Later with no warning they asked " hey wes, how many sides are on a pencil? I was like "WHAT?". Wes spat out "6" ... Second question he asked .. What was the first thing you noticed when you
Walked into my office? wes responded " the humming of the florescent light.."
what I have learned with my oldest son who was labeled ADHD ... "multifacet thinking needs an outlet to plug into.."
wes right now is doing several high functioning things at one time .. School, work, family, ties flies for extra money, he and his wife are group leaders jn their home for young married couples , and has just gotten into organizing groups for young mission projects working with different denominational churches ( this weekend is the first one and first time they've gathered together to do a project ) it was very successful.. .. I wouldn't be able to keep up even if I wanted too... these people are important getting things moving and going .. we all are .. I'm just using what I've seen in my own experience of it .. as an
example .. thank you for Sharing your insight ... you have so many that I feel would really help promote people's gifts and talents rather than supressing them .. I know you've helped me tremendously, not only to discover it .. But become familiar
and confident talking about something I've supressed for years !
perhaps the student was just ready ... Bless your heart I think I asked you a bazzillion questions lol ..

 

[Powemm]

okay I have to make a correction in my post to Shouryu.. I apologize the last part of that post I thought I was typing to "Kenisyes" I thought I had already hit "submit message" .. Youre correct in your Thimphu if you were like " huh lady? I've never alone to you in my life " lol sorry about that .. "I can't promise it won't happen again " lol
Thanks ..

 

[kenisyes]

I believe it's finding the right "spoke" or "channel" to "plug" their gifts "into."
I was just talking to my sister in law about this .. My oldest son was also labeled as such ..
I can't tell you how many days I actually sat in his classroom to observe what what was happening .. I made the suggestion to the teacher that we'd was a child who needed His energy channeled into short tasks .. Peeling crayons, dusting out the chalk board erasers, watering the plants , replacing materials .. He always finished his work first .. And could not sit still.. Only "one" teacher listened and it worked.. Not only was her time management increased. It was tue best grade he ever did in.. I think the gifts are supressed more than used .. Everyone has a spot in the kingdom.. everyone will have a suitable task .. everyone is a "piece"... I will say I do believe part of the suppression of " talking about it". Keeps us from " hearing"
The truth about who we are in christ . God didn't give us these gifts to be put under a lampshade ..
He wants the lamp "on" the table.. Not under it .. I'm surprised no one else is talking about these things ... I figured everyone would be... I guess thats why I just started talking openly about whats been going on so care free.. I was pretty surprised really how challenging it was until I came to cc.. Its been a huge blessing to be a part of this group... I feel a responsibility on my end to open a door for someone else who may walk here by accident looking for hope in the same thing.. there are generations that will be... so I guess my question is... when does the renewing, restoring and rebuilding take place, if we ourselves don't lay down our stone so they can see further into Gods kingdom?

This, in my opinion, is the key to revival. We either affirm the gifts and help each other plug in, or we don't do it, so we either have revival or we don't.

 

[kenisyes]

That's what I call " plugged in" if those teachers pay attention.. What's he doing ? All his "gifts" are what I call " plugged " Channeled into "one" area .. movers and shakers are extremely " multi tasked" people. Can do "several things" at one time..
don't get all those talents plugged properly and one prong is hanging out? the piece doesn't operate properly.. I took my oldest to a developmental specialist.. two questions they asked that lead me to this "multipronged " system were . They handed him a pencil .. And simply proceeded to speak with him.. Later with no warning they asked " hey wes, how many sides are on a pencil? I was like "WHAT?". Wes spat out "6" ... Second question he asked .. What was the first thing you noticed when you
Walked into my office? wes responded " the humming of the florescent light.."
what I have learned with my oldest son who was labeled ADHD ... "multifacet thinking needs an outlet to plug into.."
wes right now is doing several high functioning things at one time .. School, work, family, ties flies for extra money, he and his wife are group leaders jn their home for young married couples , and has just gotten into organizing groups for young mission projects working with different denominational churches ( this weekend is the first one and first time they've gathered together to do a project ) it was very successful.. .. I wouldn't be able to keep up even if I wanted too... these people are important getting things moving and going .. we all are .. I'm just using what I've seen in my own experience of it .. as an
example .. thank you for Sharing your insight ... you have so many that I feel would really help promote people's gifts and talents rather than supressing them .. I know you've helped me tremendously, not only to discover it .. But become familiar
and confident talking about something I've supressed for years !
perhaps the student was just ready ... Bless your heart I think I asked you a bazzillion questions lol ..

This is why he looks so happy in the picture you sent once. Remember too, you raised him.

 

[Markum1972]

That Mark just likes to take over the posts, doesn't he.

Was thinking bout this one. I do think that it might look like I was derailing the thread here a bit. Powemm and I were discussing some really exciting things via messaging. Was posting some of that here. Hope it didn't seem like I was derailing. Just got excited. lol ;-P

 

[Powemm]

Not at all mark .. I made a reply to her comment and put your quote instead of hers in my reply.. We are totally messin with you lol!!
there are some very good things being discussed .. I'm very glad yoire willing to share your input..
And yes ... It is very exciting !!!

 

[Powemm]

Mark I think you and Kenisyes ... Would have some very interesting things to discuss .. have you two spoken?

 

[Powemm]

Perhaps Ken can send you an invite to the thread dreams and visions .. Interesting discussion you might want to take a look
Through .. I would but I'm not sure how to invite or if I can..