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Umm, that would fall on the "calling out" of his disciples in Matthew 4:17-22 and that begins the New Testament Church. Comparing Acts 20:28 the church of God has been purchased with God's (Christ) blood so that the NT church existed already prior to Acts 2 or Mid Acts.

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1 Cor. 12:9 might be a good verse in support of "gifting by faith", being one of the many gifts of the Holy Spirit, however, those spiritual gifts in 1 Cor. 12 are given after our salvation and are not in reference to before salvation.

Not even the passage you have qouted relates to the believing the gospel of Christ.

Maybe I have to retype...

What lacks here is the belief of the Gospel that does the saving. The endless error you are fighting for is "regeneration" which is the giving of life again or from re=again, gene

I hold to the "gift of salvation" not '"gift of faith" as mentioned in Ephesians 2:8 base on it's context. It talks about salvation not faith though faith is how a sinner received God's righteousness. Hebrews 2 speaks about the theme of getting patient of running the race and doesn't talked...

Thanks and wirh respect, but I see it differently in this way as said that the phrase "from the foundation of the world" may differs from "before the foundation of the world." So when it comes to salvation, we are saved "from the foundation of the world" as in time (not eternity"), similarly...

I bet, there is a difference between "from the foundation of the world" and "before the foundation of the world". The latter means eternity and no one existed unless in his own thinking he is but that would led to the belief of gods and goddesses probably founded on a gnostic belief and rooted...

Seems to me it could not be 'chosen with Christ' before the world began. Possible is 'chosen because of Christ', yet the actual redemptive act of Christ' is not yet done though, I believe it is foreseen or foreknown and this will bring it to pass in the fullness of time, but this is only my...

Umm, the Greek, well, accepted in the beloved, redemption through his blood, by grace through faith, the riches of grace, are not these highlight s the method or his will of saving? Thanks

Thanks. You said foreknowledge differs and what the Bible says it's about God's choosing. We'll need more of your exposition. Thanks

Thanks and that is God's nature being omniscient

Thanks for the response. Are you saying the choosing is the same as foreknowledge? That believers have existed before the world was? I believe what God has foreknown is his method that is why 'in him'. To be in him is to trust In him, to have faith in him. By the way, seems v9 which is the...

My question here is that, is there anyone of us here existed before the foundation of the world? Seems this endless debate over Eph. 1:4. I ask, which best described who is before the foundation of the world? Does this refer to 'us' or 'him'? Thanks