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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    studier said: The voice (not the tense) of the verb shows who is doing the action in relation to the subject. You are right about the Voice being the part of speech that refers to whether the subject is the SOURCE of the action, a RECIPIENT of it or a bit of...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    They certainly did have to They did not have to continue to believe.. Strange that you say that when so much of the NT is devoted to COMMANDING, EXHORTING and even WARNING us to ABIDE, REMAIN and CONTINUE in Christ. If we were UNABLE to do anything but ABIDE, REMAIN and CONTINUE in Him such...
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    Faith without repentance is Dead !

    Very good word! Repentance can be painful but it "restores the JOY of our salvation" so ultimately it is POSITIVE RATHER THAN NEGATIVE. The change is certainly worth it: 67 Before I was afflicted, I went astray; but now I keep Your word. 68You ARE good, and You DO what is good; TEACH ME Your...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    It is certainly true that anyone who wants to be saved must LOOK TO JESUS to be saved. The cross the snake was hanging on was a type of the cross that saved us. As a type that is as far as it went. You are trying to extend the type further than Jesus intended by proposing that, for it to be a...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Let me add that there is an initial point when salvation begins. What comes afterward is an abiding walk that is not static but dynamic
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    A SEAL would not have denoted something unbreakable and permanent to anyone living during the times when they were in use. We get that idea from experience. For instance, we might think about something being welded to something else. The purpose of such welds was to PREVENT TWO THINGS FROM...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    I did not say anything about EARNING salvation through meritorious works OF THE LAW. That was the proposition Paul addressed when he confronted the Judaizers. It s a concept I NEVER believed. When I first came to Christ I came under the CONVICTION of the Holy Spirit (though I did not understand...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Kroogz said: Acts 16:31. Believe describes something WE do. Aorist tense. One And done. The Aorist tense does not describe who does the action. And it does not mean "one and done" as it is being presented here. A. The aorist as a verb form carries some information about the one doing the...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    You alluded to Romans 8:1 so let me answer that. The verse says: 1Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death.… We as believers IN CHRIST are not under the condemnation...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    You alluded to Romans 8:1 so let me answer that. The verse says: 1Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death.… We as believers IN CHRIST are not under the condemnation...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    In his popular textbook "Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics" Greek professor, Daniel Wallace, wrote that "believes" was conjugated as a PRESENT TENSE PARTICIPLE in John 3:16 because in the writings of John particularly FAITH indicates something ONGOING and PRESENT TENSE or "believe and keep...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    If you do not study the text (which is made up of "WORDS") how do you study it at all? I thought we were supposed to rightly divide the word using the context and the original historical grammar. I think the "IFs" in the Bible are very important since most of the Bible consists of promises...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Besides what I said before. The entire verse that says everyone who believes in Him should not perish is a PRESENT TENSE PARTICIPLE of the Greek word BELIEVE. The fact that it is in the PRESENT TENSE indicates that the verse was not talking about a SINGLE PAST decision to believe but an ONGOING...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    I believe when the Bible, Jesus or the Apostles present salvation using the conditional conjunction IF they mean it to be taken literally. Saying we believe it because we are lazy students of the word or because we have "left our first love" is just an ad hominem accusation. In fact, the belief...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    We ALL will fall away and depart from Christ. We do it every single time we grieve or quench the Spirit. "Falling away from the faith" is not about committing specific sins. Falling away refers to the act of abandoning or renouncing one's FAITH in Jesus Christ after having once professed it...