Recent content by KelbyofGod

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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    I'm going to answer as if you're being honest in your explanation. (Because you repeatedly strike me as such) As a person starts finding God.. (Start to learn about him, seek him, ask of him, even hear his voice). It seems most encounter church doctrines about this point (either before or...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    Btw, concerning not putting the cart before the horse: God established baptism for remission of sins BEFORE Jesus died on the cross. Baptism for remission of sins was done in faith of God's word by his prophet. That horse was out the gate before the rest of it followed. And God set it up...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    Did you receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost? If so, what happened? How did you know you'd received it versus still needed to receive it? What changed? Love In Jesus, Kelby
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    One verse I said your past indicates you will take lightly is John 20:23 where Jesus says "Whose soever sins YE REMIT, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins YE retain, they are retained" So... Did Jesus give them the power to remit other people's sins? Love in Jesus, Kelby
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    I have been focusing on the very foundations... The first mentions... The way God himself initially set it up. When people are willing to ignore (re-write, replace, redefine) the first statements (unjust in that which is least) they are also willing to ignore the meaning of the latter...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    Its not the work ofthe fleshly water... Its the answer (reply, response) of a good (functioning) conscience to the word of God. 1 Peter 3:21 KJV The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    it's a strait gate and narrow way. Jesus often spoke of those who hear and don't do... Or do at first but quit when the going gets tough, or get led astray by the cares (troubles, stresses), riches and pleasures of this life... they all get cast into the fire. He says many will say Lord...
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    A Thank-you Jesus! about Isaiah 28:9-12

    This might sound an odd compliment but you seem to me like someone who has a well thought out argument that sounds sincere (of your own thought) rather than rehearsed, and you also come across as open minded (not strongly opinionated or incensed) concerning some of the stuff I'm familiar with...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    I guess I should say that at least 4 of your points (A,B, C, &D) included a phrase about believing his word. His word says "Repent and be baptized,every one of you, in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins". I believe that word to the point of submitting myself to it, in action, and I...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    Most people who quote John 3:16 usually interpret it as "anyone who believes in Jesus is automatically saved" (a single step) without so much as needing to repent (although they'll add that later if you ask about it, usually along with some "sinners prayer" or other necessary work to make sure...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    Even though the purpose of water baptism is established at the beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ (Mark 1:1-4) as being "for the remission of sins" before Jesus even began to teach... and is confirmed word for word in Luke 3:3... Even if people ignore,dismiss, disregard, etc those...
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    You need both water baptism and the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.

    One obstacle in your way is that you think salvation is a one-step process. Love in Jesus, Kelby
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    A Thank-you Jesus! about Isaiah 28:9-12

    No, that's not what it says. It only says the "unlearned or unbelievers" will think they are nuts. 1 Corinthians 14:23 KJV If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say...
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    A Thank-you Jesus! about Isaiah 28:9-12

    This quote is why I wanted to address your comments in nearly reverse order. When YOU think of "speaking in tongues" (specifically 'unknown' tongues) are you thinking it is unknown (not understood) by the SPEAKER? Or do you think the speaker knows what he/she is saying but only the audience...
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    A Thank-you Jesus! about Isaiah 28:9-12

    How it is a sign for unbelievers is pretty much expressed in Post#8. But I want to point out how speaking in tongues is used by believers as a sign in scripture : Acts 10:44-47 KJV While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. [45] And they of the...