Reactions received by OIC1965
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So Paul was a gnostic? He is the one who used election and predestination. And you don't believe in preceding grace? So it's "God loved...
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There is an "already, not yet" aspect to our adoption. Just like there is with our sanctification. We are already fully sanctified...
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Eternal and I do not hold to a Calvinistic perspective on Election, we do not hold a Calvinistic perspective on Predestination, we do...
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' You said a person has to be convinced to believe, right? Who does the convincing? You?
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At conversion. BUT KNOWING AND FOREKNOWING ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. Foreknowing is knowing before. Before what?
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YOU say adoption is future. MY BIBLE says we are already children of God. (1 John 3:2) I wonder who I should believe. You say God...
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OK, let's hear your Jewish adoption argument.
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I would not use the words "we will not be a complete child of God until", but I do agree that there is an Already/not yet aspect to our...
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Pilgrimshope reacted
to OIC1965's post in the thread Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2.
So did God personally foreknow us? If yes, what does that mean? -
Rosemaryx reacted
to OIC1965's post in the thread Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2.
YOU say adoption is future. MY BIBLE says we are already children of God. (1 John 3:2) I wonder who I should believe. You say God... -
Rosemaryx reacted to OIC1965's post in the thread Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2.
So God adopts people later that are already His Sons? I think there is a principle of adoption that you are missing.
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Rosemaryx reacted to OIC1965's post in the thread Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2.
There is an "already, not yet" aspect to our adoption. Just like there is with our sanctification. We are already fully sanctified...
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Rosemaryx reacted to OIC1965's post in the thread Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2.
I would not use the words "we will not be a complete child of God until", but I do agree that there is an Already/not yet aspect to our...
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Tthroughfaith reacted to OIC1965's post in the thread Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2.
What is the direct object of the clause "God chose us"?
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' You said a person has to be convinced to believe, right? Who does the convincing? You?
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YOU say adoption is future. MY BIBLE says we are already children of God. (1 John 3:2) I wonder who I should believe. You say God...
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JJohn146 reacted
to OIC1965's post in the thread Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2.
Not according to Ephesians 1:4-5. That passage says we God chose us before the foundation of the world, HAVING predestinated us to... -
Rosemaryx reacted to OIC1965's post in the thread Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2.
We are in Christ when we believe. But that is not when we are chosen. We are chosen before the foundation of the world. The sphere of...
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Rosemaryx reacted to OIC1965's post in the thread Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2.
Yes. In adoption, there is a stage where you are adopted and there is a later stage where your adoption is publicly declared. How hard...
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Rosemaryx reacted
to OIC1965's post in the thread Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2.
good point. You have to already be a child to have an inheritance.