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You misrepresented it because Satan and Jesus were not going to any bad place at all and zero of what you are saying applies.

Mat 24 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. I have never seen a postribber unpack that the ones...

Jesus was taken to a place. Not a bad place ,to make a deal. Satan came as an angel of light . so in your model, Before the flood ,half of what group is taken? Are those taken, told to be ready? Noah was gathered before the flood. The ones taken are gathered also before the flood in Jesus...

What is your theory? Who are they, and where are they taken? half of what group?

◄ 3880. paralambanó ► Lexicon paralambanó: To take, to receive, to take along, to accept Original Word: παραλαμβάνω Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: paralambanó Pronunciation: pah-rah-lahm-BAH-no Phonetic Spelling: (par-al-am-ban'-o) KJV: receive, take (unto, with) NASB: took, received...

All that error of those times, and that is your foundation. You are depicting your position as legitimate and authenticated by men. ..as is every false doctrine of the past! Not me. You never see me seeking the approval of men. A bible and a cup of coffee.

Except Jesus prophesied mat 24 as future. He referred to Daniel and some was "near future" and some pointed to a distant future of a coming trib and Antichrist. But Jesus sealed it as in our future as , "trib such as the world has never seen or ever will" Modern slaughters far outweigh ad 70.

Matt 24 and 25 has those left behind. Of course they are killed for refusing the mark. Millions of them. The church age ends . Jacob's trouble begins. Exactly as Romans 11 declares The 7 yr trib is Jacob's trouble, Israel's trouble. Hosea illustrates God repurchasing the wife gone...

Not mocking. It is you that seems to be reframing the postrib position. Do they return to earth from the sky or not?

Many years ago perry stone uncovered that same dynamic. He was debating that "taken and left" in the Greek. The conclusion was as you are stating. Good find.

So they continue to heaven as Jesus said? ( in mat 25, Rev 14, acts 1, mat 24, and the last supper dialogue)

1) yes he does kill all refusing the mark Without question. 2)Rev 14 is not going away. How do you think you made it go away?

I need no help from the early church as it was so steeped in error that Iraneous wrote the book "against heresies" If you are catholic then I can understand a church father loyalty. As for me, the bible is my basis. I just can not go along with that doctrine of men thingy. BTW..catholic websites...

I have no desire to contentious. But in the pretrib rapture he would be up and into the boat. In your doctrine he would go back to the water. I am saying you guys would do an "about face"...."a 360". ..and it would not mischarachter your belief.

What do you call the sudden reversal in direction? I can call it whatever is acceptable.