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How do I send a message to the adminadminist as per a message about the 5 minute rule when the site refuses to send a message to the administrator??? This site has multiple problems that need to be addressed.
No idea.....maybe WORK on it ;) HAH JOKES
 

VCO

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There was a glitch of "Fun" programming should be normal soon lol!
..................................................................................................................................................................................................................... I hope so, I had to tpye the to change what I wanted to be bold type.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................1 John 3:14-18 (HCSB) 14 We know that we have passed from death to life because we love our brothers. The one who does not love remains in death. 15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him. 16 This is how we have come to know love: He laid down His life for us. We should also lay down our lives for our brothers. 17 If anyone has this world’s goods and sees his brother in need but closes his eyes to his ⌊need⌋—how can God’s love reside in him? 18 Little children, we must not love with word or speech, but with truth and action. ................................... ............................................................................................................................................................................................................... What a hassle to do it that way, but like the expression says, "There is more than one way to skin a cat?"
 
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How do I send a message to the adminadminist as per a message about the 5 minute rule when the site refuses to send a message to the administrator??? This site has multiple problems that need to be addressed.
The five minute rule is an excellent one.
An accountability measure.
 
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have you left your Post without being properly relieved?

supposing i assumed that marines carried themselves with integrity and honor to be an example always to the service of office they held.

What have you learned from Ephraim.?
 

preston39

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I'm taking it up with you.

Put up your Scripture rendering and lets examine it in context. For the record, OSAS is completely Biblical.
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If it is for the record ...as you lament...show scripture. Or do we just take your word?

The KJV does not support OSAS....maybe your bible does.
 

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p...,

If it is for the record ...as you lament...show scripture. Or do we just take your word?
He was responding to your scriptureless comments so put up yours . Oh I forgot. Please.
Blessings
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preacher4truth

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If it is for the record ...as you lament...show scripture.
As I lament? Do you know the definition of that word? Obviously not. It would be as I contend. Still waiting for you to provide Scripture with your horrendous rendering.

Or do we just take your word?

The KJV does not support OSAS....maybe your bible does.
All Bibles support OSAS (excluding NSB, NWT) even the KJV. It is your misinterpretations that don't support the true Gospel, not the version you misuse.
 

preston39

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HAHAHHAAHHAHHA another cake taker here Preach.....he cannot even say GOD

We are typing here...not speaking.

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........even though the men of the bible wrote it 4,473 times.......

and by the way...eternal security is found though and through the bible.....it is scriptural.


Yes once received..after physical death...not here on earth. Remember...we must maintain .... until the end.

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just curious at what time era did you conclude that philosophy?
 
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Romans 1:28-29

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

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1 john

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.


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Hebrews 6
6 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

3 And this will we do, if God permit.

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there are those who hear the call

but are not chosen

they were not born again or they no doubt would have continued in faith

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proof of tasting the Holy spirit but not being born again BECAUSE OF UNBELIEF



7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.






Philippians 1:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ

going to bed

heres a bump for preston


God calls

His sheep hear His voice

born again by grace through faith

He finishes what He starts
 

VCO

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Then explain James 2:14 to 26 to me. James 2 Faith and Deeds 14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. 18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. 20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[e] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. 25 In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
James is NOT explaining how one is to be SAVED, instead he is explaining how with GOD's LOVE in our hearts, which Rom. 5:5, clearly defines; how the born again human nature will respond. IT IS A DEFINITION OF HOW GOD'S LOVE IN OUR HEARTS CHANGES US. Here is a parallel portion of SCRIPTURE THAT CLEARLY OUTLINES what James is talking about in James 2:14-26. ........................................................................................................................................................................................................ 1 John 3:14-18 (HCSB)------------ 14 We know that we have passed from death to life because we love our brothers. The one who does not love remains in death. 15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him. 16 This is how we have come to know love: He laid down His life for us. We should also lay down our lives for our brothers. 17 If anyone has this world’s goods and sees his brother in need but closes his eyes to his ⌊need⌋—how can God’s love reside in him? 18 Little children, we must not love with word or speech, but with truth and action.
 
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Laish

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l...,

Thanks.

Are you speaking for someone?
Come off your horse sir . Your passive aggressive replies don’t fly here . It would be best you address the request ,and stick to the subject instead of your not so clever quips .
Blessings
Bill
 

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WHEN you get through your head that JAMES is not speaking to salvation and being justified before GOD then and only then will you comprehend what James is actually saying.....HE is speaking of FAITH that saves BEING SEEN BY MEN.....NOT the element of SALVATION which is faith alone......
In other words James is to be ignored when he states faith without works is dead. Methinks you are ignoring the fact that James 2 is part of the Bible Therefore the word of God. Here is the full chapter. Point out where you can point out that observation. I can't find that. I read all of james and found works of mouth and action mentioned as required by our faith.

James 2 New International Version (NIV)
Favoritism Forbidden
1 My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism. 2 Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in filthy old clothes also comes in. 3 If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” 4 have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?


5 Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? 6 But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? 7 Are they not the ones who are blaspheming the noble name of him to whom you belong?


8 If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,”[a] you are doing right. 9 But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.”[c] If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.


12 Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, 13 because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.


Faith and Deeds
14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.


18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”


Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.


20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[d]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[e] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.


25 In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.


Footnotes:
James 2:8 Lev. 19:18
James 2:11 Exodus 20:14; Deut. 5:18
James 2:11 Exodus 20:13; Deut. 5:17
James 2:20 Some early manuscripts dead
James 2:23 Gen. 15:6
 
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HAHAHHAAHHAHHA another cake taker here Preach.....he cannot even say GOD.........even though the men of the bible wrote it 4,473 times.......

and by the way...eternal security is found though and through the bible.....it is scriptural...........
unless he's Jewish,the Jewish fear respectfully to say God's name.
 
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..................................................................................................................................................................................................................... I hope so, I had to tpye the to change what I wanted to be bold type.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................1 John 3:14-18 (HCSB) 14 We know that we have passed from death to life because we love our brothers. The one who does not love remains in death. 15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him. 16 This is how we have come to know love: He laid down His life for us. We should also lay down our lives for our brothers. 17 If anyone has this world’s goods and sees his brother in need but closes his eyes to his ⌊need⌋—how can God’s love reside in him? 18 Little children, we must not love with word or speech, but with truth and action. ................................... ............................................................................................................................................................................................................... What a hassle to do it that way, but like the expression says, "There is more than one way to skin a cat?"

Yes a very awful expression I like cats...
 

Endoscopy

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The five minute rule is an excellent one.
An accountability measure.
Not when the site keeps messing up my corrections.

That sentence took me 2 minutes to get it right. This site has an allergic reaction to my tablet keyboard at times. I often make the same correction multiple times to fix it It keeps making the same error multiple times before the correction works. This is the only site I have this problem on.