THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

I am trying to give you more information about the History surrouding the Location of original Temple, and anything new about Archeologists diggings, and the future Third Temple Location. I think most would agree that the signs are everywhere that the FINAL ACT of GOD FULFILLING HIS PROPHECIES is about to commence.


I know, we already have the Wars and Rumors of War, the Earthquakes in diverse places, the Pestilances (Diseases the Kill), Ethnic Groups rising up against other Ethnic Groups, etc. Archeologists (including one Jewish Archeolgists) have found evidence that the original Temple location was about 900 meters to the South of the Dome of the Rock, on the original Mt. Zion in modern day City of DAVID. At the time of Christ that site was the Southeast Corner of Jerusalem. The Jews forgot that part of their History was that, after the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D., the Romans built a Temple to Jupiter on the site of Solomon's Temple. Thus when Simon the Prince of Judah and his forces overthrew the Romans in 132 A.D., Simon declared the original Temple Mount DEFILED, and turned the original Mt. Zion into a Rock Quarry, and lowered Mt. Zion to the height of the surrounding City of David, throwing the rock into the Valley to the South, creating a level road bed access from the South, to Jerusalem. Israel's Antiquities Authority is currently examing the archeological discoveries in the City of David to determine the validity of the Archeologists discoveries. When validated, that location has never been under the control of the Palestinians, and therefore the building of the Third Temple can begin immediately.

So the Rapture may happen long before I am 84, if not, males in my family usually die in their 60's or 70's of heart attacks.

I forgot to mention that in ancients times Mount Zion referred to the City of of DAVID, and more specifically a hill in City of David which was the real TEMPLE MOUNT. After the return of the Jews 400 A.D. from being scattered when the Roman Army retook Jerusalem destroying it YET AGAIN in 135 A.D. No such Hill remained in the City of DAVID, and thus the Western Hill was selected as the Mount Zion, and Mount Moriah was chosen as the Temple Mount via election by Committee of Rabbis, which is where the Dome of the Rock is located. At that time apparently , NOBODY bothered to research what Simon bar Kokhba, Prince of Judah did during his short reign between 132 A.D. and 135 A.D. when He was killed by the Roman Invaders. Thus the leveling of Mount Zion remained a mystery for centuries. Until some records were found, written by Histiorians, revealing that Simon had ordered the Temple Mount leveled, because it was Defiled by the first Temple to Jupiter in the Jerusalem area. Then after retaking Jerusalem in 135 A.D., Emperor Hadrian ordered yet another Temple of Jupiter be built and it was placed where the Dome of the Rock is today, which only added to the confusion.

As for Jerusalem, the Jews were exiled and prohibited from entering the city{135 A.D.}. The name of the city was changed to Aelia Capitolina and according to later sources, temples were erected to Jupiter and Aphrodite (42). A later source notes a list of public buildings built by Hadrian in Jerusalem. One of them was called "the square" (43). The temple to Aphrodite was built at the site of the present Church of the Holy Sepulcher. As for the location of the Temple to Jupiter, little is known. There are researchers who doubt if a temple to Jupiter was built at all on the Temple Mount (44).

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That curved Street winding up to just below that Southern Wall of today's Jerusalem, almost ending directly below that Steel Domed Mosque; is called the Central Valley Road. That hotel or whatever it is, where the line going down from the City of David is just south of where they think the TEMPLE belongs. Notice it is a wooded Area just past that Hotel-like building:


Jeremiah 26:18 (HCSB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] “Micah the Moreshite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah and said to all the people of Judah, ‘This is what the LORD of Hosts says: Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become ruins, and the temple mount a forested hill.’


The original Temple Mount (Mount Zion) was probably a little higher than that Hotel-like building. That Central Valley Road was a stream fed by the same Underground stream that supplies water to the Gihon Springs, which is a little ways to the right and up from that Hotel-like building. The Threshing Floor that David bought for the Temple Sacrifices would have been near the back of the temple, with a slotted groved channel leading down to that Central Valley Stream to wash away the blood.

THIS IS WHAT ARCHEOLOGISTS THINK PROVES
THE TEMPLE WAS IN THE CITY OF DAVID.




To the right of this picture were ring holes in the wall to tie up aninmals.

This is the discovery that the Archeologists think is probably the remenant of the Threshing Floor that David bought. It and the surrounding ground were bought by King David literally to build the Temple on. This would have been on the lower part of the hill to the West, very near the brook that ran through the Central Valley, which today is the Central Valley Road. Threshing Floors were built in low places where the valley or gully curved to minimize the wind preventing it from carrying the grain outside the Threshing Floor when it was thrown into the air. That channel would have been carved in the bed rock after the purchase, as it served but one purpose. To carry the BLOOD of the many sacrifices down to the stream and be washed away. The Sacrifice Floor and the Channel would have been washed clean with either the upstream water from the Stream, or the Gihon Springs, that was deliberately rechanneled to have an opening inside the TEMPLE COMPLEX, which also has been found nearby in that same City of David diggings. Only Stream Water or Spring Water can be use to pureify things in the Temple. That small piece of the Threshing Floor was spared destruction in the Rock Quarry only because of it's location on the lowest part of the hill while everything higher was quarried and hauled out to the Southern Valley to build a level road into Jerusalem from the South.







The Natural Exit tunnel was blocked, so as to force the water even higher to the Temple. The name Gihon, means Gusher. In the rainy season it lived up to it's name, but the water had to be pulled up on a bucket and rope from Cistern (Valuted Chamber) they built under the exit hole in the Temple Complex. Hezekiah's Tunnel is NOT the source of the Spring Water, but some of the spring water seeps into that tunnel too. The SOURCE Stream is 400 feet down and tihat stream is fed by an unground Lake several miles up hill to the North of Jerusalem. So the surface of that underground Lake had to be higher than the exit hole when it was gushing, and lower than the exit hole when it was not gushing.

Here is a Threshing Floor being used in the same way as King David's day, in a very poor part of Africa today:

[video=youtube;saICUJUQMdE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saICUJUQMdE[/video]

If anyone has not seen the morning news there are at least 50 dead and 400 wounded in a sniper attack in Las Vegas at an Outdoor Country and Western Concert. Pray for the victims wounded and the families of all casualties.

MORE SIGNS OF THE TIMES:


2 Timothy 3:1-5 (GWT)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] You must understand this: In the last days there will be violent periods of time. {That word "violent" can also be translated VICIOUS.}
[SUP]2 [/SUP] People will be selfish and love money. They will brag, be arrogant, and use abusive language. They will curse their parents, show no gratitude, have no respect for what is holy,
[SUP]3 [/SUP] and lack normal affection for their families. They will refuse to make peace with anyone. They will be slanderous, lack self-control, be brutal, and have no love for what is good.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] They will be traitors. They will be reckless and conceited. They will love pleasure rather than God.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] They will appear to have a godly life, but they will not let its power change them. Stay away from such people.

2 Timothy 3:13 (HCSB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Evil people and impostors will become worse, deceiving and being deceived.

What has changed that may be a contributing factor to the ever increasing violent murder rate?

I think it started downhill when public executions were taken out the public eye.

Exodus 21:14 (NCV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But if someone plans and murders another person on purpose, put him to death, even if he has run to my altar for safety.

Originally Posted by stonesoffire

Question VCO

Post # 3 has a picture of the gate to the city, is this right? I read something about the removal of an eagle emblem from a gate just recently, and was wondering if this was it?

Not sure what this has to do with the temple site or if at all, but it was in another thread. And Josephus is a hard read for me. [/quote]


I will do a search to answer your question about the gate, but what you thought was a gate, was what they call today a Torah Ark, and I will post the results on this Third Temple News thread. What the narrator called a Torah Neesh, I think today is called the Torah Ark, which is a small closet behind a curtain for storing the Torah. It is supposed to pointing the way to Israel when the Congregation faces it, and apparently when close to Jerusalem in ancient Israel, it need to be placed in the Synagogue so that the Congregation faced the Temple Mount. Please post future questions there, so we do not highjack this thread.

See the table in this modern Synagogue, where the Torah was laided when reading from it. And behind it is the Torah Ark (closet) with a curtain.



So, what you saw in that Video most likely was not a Gate, but a Torah Ark, and yes they resemble Gates in a way.



In a wealthy Synagogue today, their Torah Ark (Closet) might house several copies of the Torah, but at the time of CHRIST usually only one:



But at the time of Christ they would have been much more modest, and many simply made out of wood:




Here is an ancient one in a ruins of a Synagogue made of Stone:


This is actually the Synagogue at Sardes.

Question VCO

Post # 3 has a picture of the gate to the city, is this right? I read something about the removal of an eagle emblem from a gate just recently, and was wondering if this was it?

Not sure what this has to do with the temple site or if at all, but it was in another thread. And Josephus is a hard read for me.


I never saw this thread back in July, but I wouldn't have had this question either, back then. I just read some things in the history of Josephus, and this stuck in my mind. If I remember correctly it was the gate into the city.

I dont know know if I can find that post where I read this, but will try.

https://books.google.com/books?id=f...XAhVNx2MKHbh5BEEQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q&f=false



found it VCO. Scroll up to the beginning of the article. The eagle and the Kings eclipse. I couldn't copy and paste.

I am still searching for info on a Gate to Jerusalem that used to have an Eagle above it. The reason I find that possible information very Interesting, is the EAGLE would have been a ROMAN EAGLE used to represent the Emperor, and could have been a MARKER for the Primary Entrance to Fort Antonia, the Roman Fortress that housed 10,000 Personnel.

Perhaps it looked something like this one, that dates back to the Roman Empire:



THIS EAGLE WAS FOUND IN PETRA.

Look at the East Gate or also called the Golden Gate that is sealed:



Could those four bumps where the arches meet, be toes of an Eagle that was removed? It definitely looks like something was Removed from there. If so, Look what is behind that Wall.


The Archeologists think they can PROVE that it NEVER WAS THE TEMPLE MOUNT, but Rather it was Fort Antonia, the Roman fortress. That Gate would have led directly to the Center Courtyard of Fort Antonia.



NOTICE the Talons and spacing on this Roman Statue.



That drawing does not match Joesephus' description of Fort Antonia, which was way bigger than the Temple complex taking up more than the so-called Temple Mount. Josephus put that Highest Fort Tower over here in Southeast Corner, closer to where the narrow Bridge goes past the Eastern Wall. Unlike most maps, the top of this one is West and the Bottom is East. But the wider road bridge going through the East Gate makes perfect Sense, so that the LEGION could march out or in, five or six abreast. Hence the double wide Gate. Must have been some sight. The Picture under paragraph 3, on my post #409, on page 21; shows Fort Antonia as described by the Jewish Historian Josephus, however that artist forgot to include the East Gate bridge or even the East Gate itself. Why would the Romans destroy the BEST bridge accesses to Jerusalem before abandoning Jerusalem in approximately 312 AD? If your Army is pulling out, YOU DO NOT LEAVE EASY ACCESS TO THE BEST FORT IN THE MIDEAST, for an enemy to take over. After putting an end to Simon Bar Kokhba's Rebellion in 135, The Roman Army turned Jerusalem into a Roman City and renamed Jerusalem as Aelia Capitolina and Judea as Palaestina to obliterate Jewish identification with the Land of Israel. They continued to rule over Jerusalem until shortly before 313 AD. Then from 313 AD - 636 the Byzantine Empire ruled over Jerusalem.

I will keep searching for more Info and hopefully Pictures of the supposed missing Roman Eagle. That is my best educated guess so far, if this assumption is accurate, the Jewish Authorities, my have a vested interest in hiding or destroying a Roman Eagle that once may have been on the East Gate, because in 400 AD, the Jewish Rabbis declared the Western Wall (some times improperly called the Whaling Wall), to be the Western Wall of the Temple, when in reality it is the Western Wall of Fort Antonia.

hi there big uce VCO do u know if the temple institute is aware yet of where the temple really stood?

The Temple Institute says the temple was at Beth-El, the place where Jacob had his dream of an open heaven, with angels going up and down a ladder in and out of heaven. Also, was the same place where Abraham was to sacrifice Isaac.

You can search the site for answers. It's very interesting.

VCO

Whichever gate is considered the "great" gate, is the one that had the eagle. My thought is it would be the eastern gate. Jesus is supposed to come through this gate, isn't He? I know I just read that recently. Just not sure where. And whoever sealed that gate up, did it to keep it from happening.

I didnt check to see if it was true.

My many years of research strongly suggest that the Temple was not located on todays temple mount nor south of it in the City of David! This new location is the first time mentioned and will astound everyone.
The original Temple was located on the hill in todays Muslim Quarter of East Jerusalem near Herod's gate. This is evidenced by my research of biblical and ancient text of military strategies and water systems, new and old archaeological finds, studies of geological and geographical data from Landsat and Google satelites, and personal exploation of Jerusalem.

What does the temporal temple seen have to do with the unseen eternal city prepared as a bride?

We walk by faith the unseen eternal. Why use the earthly Jerusalem as a idol as the Jews that are still hoping Christ will come in the flesh and destroy all the gentile nations?

2Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight


And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.Rev 21:22

The Jew are seeking after the wrong manner of spirit .One that comes by observation ...walking by sight. Why follow their works of idol worship... they shows themselves as antichrists that went out from us because they were never with us, as to how God defines us ...not how they define us according to their outward corrupted flesh .We are to test the spirits


Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that "spirit of antichrist", whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.1Jo 4:2

Makes a great museum trip... if a person is into antiques and actually has money.. Not a place I would want to visit but a place or terror as those who do wrestle against flesh and blood. You could say Satan dividing Satan . The battle is not of here.as if the kingdom of God was of this world as if we did walk by sight

Australia would be my choice less terrorism per capitol.

East is a word used as a metphor throughout scripture to represent Christ, like below.

Gen 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

Ask oneself eastward of what.The whole creation was perfect before Christ subjected it to corruption.

Christ is the gate or door by which we enter fellowship with His Holy Spirit.H e is not a literal gate that men can close off with ones hand.

Genesis 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

In Revelation the word east is used to express the way of a kingdom of priests (all believers) being shod with the gospel of salvation.

Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

The river Euphrates which no ones knows for sure where it is .Some have been named after the biblical record .Is shown going out to all the kingdoms of the world represented by the word four (universal ) It is dried up as the kind of thirst for hearing the word of God not seen the end has come. the kings as the bride of Christ enter the east gate

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of "hearing the words" of the LORD:And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it. In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst.Amo 8:13

When he comes will he find faith, the key that unlocks the east gate or a worn out religious book that cannot perform that which is says and rather men will walking by sight just as in the days of Noah, every man, servings the imagination of their own desperately wicked hearts ?

Eastern - Golden Gate

Ezekiel 44:1-3
1 Then he brought me back to the outer gate of the sanctuary, which faces east; and it was shut.

2 And he said to me, "This gate shall remain shut"; "it shall not be opened", and "no one shall enter by it"; for the LORD, the God of Israel, has entered by it; therefore it shall remain shut.

3 Only the prince may sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by way of the vestibule of the gate, and shall go out by the same way.

The East gate was walled up by it's Muslim conquerors (the Ottoman Turks) in 1530 A.D. Ezekiel prophesied the shutting of this gate itself around 600 B.C.

Ezekiel says concerning this closed gate that the "Prince shall enter it again".

Jesus, having entered the city, said that he would not be seen again until Jerusalem acknowledges him (Matthew 23:37-39).

The Eastern gate is presently sealed up and blocked off. However one day soon Messiah will stand on the Mount of Olives, then walk right through the Eastern Gate and into the Temple area. (see Ps 24, Eze 43:1-3, Zec 14:4)

It's from the Temple Mt in Jerusalem that Jesus will Rule & Reign.

Lot's of info on the 3rd Temple can be found here:

https://www.templeinstitute.org/newsletter_archive.htm#updates

Based on the knowledge that a devout Jew would be defiled for entering a cemetery or touching a dead body, The Muslims also built a cemetery in front of the gate in the belief that it would prevent the Jewish Messiah from entering. Therefore stopping the fulfilment of prophecy. (As if)

It is for ISRAEL, the Prophesy in Zechariah chapter 14 and Other places in the BIBLE, HAS NEVER HAPPENED. I absolutely Believe it is the 70th Week of Daniel, which happens after the Church is removed from the Earth. Yes, they will be Tribulation Saints that come to the Lord after ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS are removed, therefore they will come with All Martyred Israelites from that Period of the 70th Week of Daniel. GOD is not finished with ISRAEL.


Zechariah 14:1-4 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Behold, a day is coming for the LORD when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Then the LORD will go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fights on a day of battle.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] In that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south.

Zechariah 14:16-21 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] And it will be that whichever of the families of the earth does not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, there will be no rain on them.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] If the family of Egypt does not go up or enter, then no rain will fall on them; it will be the plague with which the LORD smites the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Booths.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Booths.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] In that day there will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, "HOLY TO THE LORD." And the cooking pots in the LORD'S house will be like the bowls before the altar.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] Every cooking pot in Jerusalem and in Judah will be holy to the LORD of hosts; and all who sacrifice will come and take of them and boil in them. And there will no longer be a Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts in that day.

I am not going to debate that HERE, as I have done that NUMEROUS other times. I you do not want to believe in a PreTrib "Calling Out of the Bride", you are welcome to go thru the Tribulation, as for the rest of us true Christian, we have an Invite to go to the Wedding of the Lamb. Ref: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/95283-calling-out-bride-go-wedding-lamb.html

The veil is rent Christ has come in the flesh .Its those described as antichrsts that are rebuilding it.

I would ask myself. What are you waiting for I have heard that it should come; But Christ two thousand years ago informs us even now already are the antichrists in the world. the outward Jew does not confess he has come.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and "this is that spirit of antichrist", whereof ye have heard that it (antichrist) should come; and even now already is it (antichrist) in the world.1Jo 4:1

True enough, but the point is that there will be a third temple which will be hijacked by THE ANTICHRIST. There are many antichrists but there is only one Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, the Antichrist -- the final Antichrist.

Foundations: Studies in Bible Theology

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