2 Different Laws? NO!

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Cee

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May 14, 2010
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Let me just blow up this argument about "2 different Laws" for good.

Romans 2:12 For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them16 on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.

You can not be intellectual honest and say that this is talking about any other Law besides the 10 Commandments. Because the Gentiles do NOT have the 613 little laws written on their hearts. Also please note the GENTILES don't have the Law! Quit trying to put Gentiles under the Law!

Now for this idea that the Pharisees weren't breaking the 10 Commandments. Let's address this too.

17 But if you call yourself a Jew and rely on the law and boast in God 18 and know his will and approve what is excellent, because you are instructed from the law; 19 and if you are sure that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness, 20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of children, having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth—21 you then who teach others, do you not teach yourself? While you preach against stealing, do you steal? 22 You who say that one must not commit adultery, do you commit adultery?
<<=== 10 Commandments.

Paul's argument against the Jews who rely on the law is that they are BREAKING IT. Not the 613 little laws! So that argument is COMPLETELY incorrect. The Jews were teaching people to follow the Law (The 10 Commandments) while they themselves were BREAKING IT.

And finally Romans 3:20 For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe.

NO human being is justified by the works of the law. The righteousness of God is APART from it. And the Law AND the prophets ALL bear witness to the righteousness of God through BELIEF only.

If you say that this law is about the 613 little laws and not the 10 Commandments, you're ignoring Romans 2 that clearly shows the Pharisees were breaking the 10 Commandments. The clarity of this Scripture is unavoidable.

Case closed.