Does God WILL all to be saved or only DESIRE it?

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Cee

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Everyone who calls upon the Lord does not mean everyone w/o exception. Everyone in that subset only includes those who who call upon Him. Those who do not call upon Him will not be saved.

God does desire all to be saved, as He does not rejoice in the death of the wicked. Yet at the same time, He has not willed everyone be saved.
I've heard this doctrinal argument, but if you look into the Greek word being used here for "desires", you'll see it's used interchangeable with "wills".

Here's where you can start:

Greek Concordance: θέλει (thelei) -- 19 Occurrences

But just to save you the trip, here's the exact word in another Scripture:

John 5:21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will.

As you can see, this is Scripture once again saying the opposite of the "desires vs wills" argument.

The Son gives life to whom He wills. (John 5:21)
And the Father wills none to perish. (1 Tim 2:4)

These words are identical in the Greek.