The Heresy of Annihilationism

Thank you for all the post and for those who disagree again you did not provide Biblical proof to refute you tried to explain the Biblical proof that was given . Jesus is the Authority on the topic not me. Annihilationism is easy to debunk because Jesus did .


here is the list of over whelming proof of the context of hell. those who hold to annihilation theory do so with human reasoning and conjecture. These give example of earthly judgement and courts while forgetting Gods ways are not mans ways

Is 55:8-9

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

those supportive of this theory of "annihilation" too dismiss the words of Jesus concerning hell because some of what HE said were Parables. Mainly in Luke chapter 16 . That is because they do not have discernment or remember what Jesus Himself said about Parables . What is a Parable? More importantly When Jesus said them were they important ?
When Jesus said Parables:
The parables are used in giving one or more instructional lessons or principles and can be an allegory and may include inanimate objects (like trees, plants, or things) or people in various societal positions.

Jesus clearly gives parables to hide the meaning from those whose hearts are hardened. Some of the parables are hard to understand but they frequently serve as object lessons that use experiences from life to clearly communicate a meaning for Jesus’ teachings.

Now back to the context of Hell Biblically
When Jesus spoke about hell we must look at everything HE said about hell and draw understanding from that... all of it.
IF Jesus just used the Parable in Luke 16 concerning hell " Lazarus & a certain Rich man" they might have point , BUT that is not the case . We must take all Jesus said and the parables concerning Hell, if we do that the context of hell becomes very clear to the person who is open to what the word of God is saying as it has said it. pray and read what Jesus said about hell ALL of what HE said : this is good place to start:

• God made Hell because of who he is - holy, holy, holy (Isa 6:3; Rev 4:8) - and thus is too pure to look upon sin (Hab 1:13).
• (2) God is love (1 John 4:7-8) and while he spoke more concerning Heaven than he did Hell, in his holiness and honesty Jesus spoke about Hell (i.e. Gehenna) a considerable amount of times too - since he is the Word, Jesus is actually the author of every usage of Hell in the Bible (Matt 5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33; Mark 9:43, 45, 47; Luke 12:5; parallels to the same; Matt 7:21-23; 8:12; 13:42; 24:29-31, 45-51; 25:30-32, 41-46; Rev 2:11, etc.).
• (3) God is the Judge and sends the unsaved to Hell (Matt 25:41; 2 Pet 2:4, 9).
• (4) In another sense, people send themselves to Hell, as they willing sin against God (Rom 2:5; 3:23; 1 Cor 6:9).
• (5) Hell was prepared for the Devil and his angels (Matt 25:41), but Satan's seed (Gen 3:15) will spend eternity there as well (Rev 20:14).
• (6) Hell is a place where one can never stop sinning (Rom 8:7-8; Rev 21:8; 22:14-15). Since the sinners in Hell keep sinning there is perpetual punishment.
• (7) Hell is a waterless place with no exit (Luke 16:24-26).
• (8) Hell is a bottomless pit (Rev 20:1).
• (9) Hell is a lake of fire into which the wicked will be cast alive forever (Rev 19:20; 20:15).
• (10) Hell is a place of eternal torments (Luke 16:23).
• (11) Hell is a place of everlasting punishment (Matt 25:46).
• (12) Hell is a place of everlasting destruction from the presence of God (2 Thess 1:6-10).
• (13) Hell is a place of being cut into pieces (Matt 24:51).
• (14) Hell is a place where the worm dies not and the fire is not quenched (Mark 9:48).
• (15) Hell is a place of outer darkness, of weeping, and gnashing of teeth (Matt 25:30).
• (16) It's not enough for God to take us out of Hell; he must remove Hell out of us; and thus he sent his only begotten Son to die for the sins of his people (Rom 5:8; Jude 1:23; John 1:29).

God bless
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
2tim 2:15

We agree on this doctrine. Simply if life is eternal and God is eternal then His wrath upon sin is eternal. Makes the pleasures of sin for a season seem more than a little foolish.

Mt 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Thank you however, I think it is important that note That it is Jesus Himself who disproves this theory of Annihilationism

That's an assertion with no backing.


The Lord is the authority on the topic. He never taught that people will burn alive in hell forever.


God most certainly is holy. He created man to fellowship with Him. He gave us free will. He needed a way to assure that when it's all said and done, the final state of things will not have anyone there who is evil. So He made a rule: "The wages of sin is death".


Read each one of those scripture carefully, and do not read your beliefs into what they say. NONE of them say that unsaved people will burn alive in hell forever.


The unsaved will be sentenced to die the second death, which will be permanent.


All of us willingly sin against God at times. We are saved by faith in Jesus Christ. Those who are not saved will be thrown into the lake of fire, and destroyed.


The Lake of fire will eventually burn whatever is thrown into it up.


This is a whole new demonstration of ignorance. God is love, and He wants people to STOP sinning. You are declaring that God is going to put the unsaved into a place where they cannot stop sinning, and allow them to be tortured forever because of something they are unable to stop doing. This is worse than Calvinism.


Luke 16:19ff is a parable.


The abyss in Rev 20:1 is not the lake of fire. It is likely Tartarus, where Satan will be locked up during the millennial kingdom.


Those verses do not say they will be alive forever in the lake of fire.


Luke 16:19ff is a parable.


Yes, the second death will be permanent. There will be no coming back from the second death.


Yes, the second death will be permanent. There will be no coming back from the second death.


Signifying destruction.


Yes, the destruction in the lake of fire will be complete.


There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth as people realize what it about to happen to them. Once they are destroyed, they will be silent, they will be dead.


Where does the Bible say ANYTHING about God removing hell out of us?


That is generally true.


I am not a member of any of those denominations, nor do I know any of those people. I believe what the Bible says, that the wages of sin is death.


What would those be, CS1?


Useless for defending your belief. The guy just makes assertions about the definition of those words.

There were already two active threads on this topic. Why did you start a third?

Please let us all know if the administrators of this website decide to make believing in and teaching annihilation a bannable offense. If they do, then I'll stop posting about it. Until that happens, I will not be silent.

You know, the verse says to not fear a man who can destroy your body but to fear God who can destroy BOTH body and soul in hell.

Some argue that a soul= mind, emotions and spirit.

In that case, destroying the soul in hell would include destroying the spirit in hell.

Not to say that I think men are born with an eternal spirit inside them, because I don't, but I don't quite grasp where the leap is made that it is only the resurrected body that is destroyed in the second death. Whatever your definition of soul is, that is what is being said will be destroyed.

https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/251-will-wicked-people-be-annihilated-in-hell

DESTROY != ANNIHILATE

Destroy = Lost, or Perish

I agree...

If you agree https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/251-will-wicked-people-be-annihilated-in-hell
then why are you supporting annihilationism? You did go to the site given ?

No, I didn't even notice the website.
I was agreeing with what he wrote, that destroy means annihilate, loss of life, perish...

You know, the verse says to not fear a man who can destroy your body but to fear God who can destroy BOTH body and soul in hell.

Some argue that a soul= mind, emotions and spirit.

In that case, destroying the soul in hell would include destroying the spirit in hell.

Not to say that I think men are born with an eternal spirit inside them, because I don't, but I don't quite grasp where the leap is made that it is only the resurrected body that is destroyed in the second death. Whatever your definition of soul is, that is what is being said will be destroyed.

When we are saved it is a continuous action. Saved today and being saved through all eternity.

When sinners are destroyed in hell it too is a continuous action. Destroyed today and out through eternity. A continuous state of destruction. Fire that is never quenched and the worm dieth not.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

No, I didn't even notice the website.
I was agreeing with what he wrote, that destroy means annihilate, loss of life, perish...

I disagree. I don't think death is continuous. I think death is final.

I disagree. I don't think death is continuous. I think death is final.

Ok but the word of God does you have a dilemma between what the Word of God says and what you think.

The real and true argument here is over whether men are born eternal beings or not.