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It's not a problem at all Post. You are desperately, as do most religious man, looking to justify your religious traditions and doctrines, many of which are not supported by scripture as has been shown. And you are trying to use Circumcision to do it.

I have pointed out over and over, as does Paul, that Abel, Noah, Abraham were all "Faithful" before physical Circumcision, just like Abraham, Noah and Abel had their sins atoned for "Apart" from the Levitical Priesthood "Deeds of the Law". And as the Priesthood was prophesied to "change" in the Law and Prophets, so also were those who are not under Physical Circumcision prophesied to be folded into His Kingdom.

If a man is just looking to justify a religion, they only look for words that can promote their agenda. But if a person is seeking His Kingdom and HIS Righteousness, then they drink in all of God's Word.

Remember, the serpent used parts of God's Word to deceive Eve into believing the lie that God's instructions were not in her best interest.

satan also used parts of God's Word's to temp Jesus into serving His Flesh, and not the Word's of His Father.

4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

When you look at the whole "Law and Prophets", as Paul did, you may see, if allowed, that both Physical Circumcision, which was an outward sign of obedience, and animal sacrifice, which was an outward sign of God's mercy, were Spiritual in nature. God, in His Merciful wisdom, gave us the whole Law and Prophets which explained the intent of God's instructions more clearly. And the entire Law and Prophets were written as "Examples" for our admonition. I don't believe "Circumcision" was written to give a person cover for creating their own religious traditions and doctrines, or rejecting instructions which are contrary to worldly religious traditions.

The Mainstream Preachers of Christ's did the same thing that you do Post. They chose "parts" of the Law and Prophets to justify or create their religion, but omitted very important parts, like mercy, judgment and Faith. When Jesus and Paul spoke to the Mainstream Preachers of their time, they quoted the Law and Prophets every time.

Why? Because they are irrelevant or immaterial as you suggest? I don't believe this is true.

I don't believe the Spiritual intent was to give those who Love God a piece of dirt. But you are free to believe as you wish.

Context!!!!

It's sure not replacement theology we're reading here, either!

I don't know about that, in fact, you've yet to actually identify a single one of these so-called-traditions you're always making slanderous accusations about. They're always unspecified and never backed up with anything more than your tongue.

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Adding emphasis such as colors, boldface, or italics is an alteration. Please do not do it.
Thank you

That's the amazing thing about Christianity, isn't it?

The Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world.

All the other religions are the Lambs of men trying to reach God.

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You know, Studyman, the quoting system here on cc is a wonderful tool for other users to be able to track the conversations.

When used properly, for example, user A can quote user B. Then other users can click on the link for user B and read user B's original post that's being responded to.

But when the quoting system isn't used properly, that then requires other users to try to track down the original post by other means if they wish to read it.

So, in my opinion, it's really kind of an impolite thing to do to the other users.

I'm sorry,

I thought the very reason you use circumcision is in support of your belief that the Sabbath is no longer to be honored. That is the impression I gathered from your posts.

And I also thought, from your posts, that you believe Jesus taught differently as a man, than as the Word. You have said this and I know it is accepted doctrine in the worlds religions, but the scriptures don't support it, in my view.

And you also teach that the New Covenant re-defines sin, and makes the Law and the Prophets immaterial. At least that is what your posts indicate to me.

You have also taught that "works of the Law" for justification of sin is not the "Priesthood duties" given by Moses for atonement, but represent "ALL" God's Law, even God Laws that Abraham followed.

And I also thought, from your posts, that you believe many of God's Commandments are "Rudiments of the World" and that Col. 2 relegates much of the Bible as irrelevant.

And you have also argued your belief that the Pharisees were trying to earn salvation by following God's Commandments, even after I have showed that Jesus says the opposite in every quote He made about them.

And you also teach God's Commandments are the "Yoke" mentioned in Acts 15, which scripture don't support, in my view.

So all these are widely accepted doctrines and traditions that are practiced and taught by "many" who come in Christ's name, but when all the Word's of God are considered, they are brought into question.

I thought the very reason you made such a big deal about Circumcision was in defense of many of these religious doctrines and traditions which Jesus didn't share.

Now, it seems you are saying it is a sin, according to the Bible, if I don't get Circumcised, yet Paul is telling me to commit this sin.

In fact you even suggested that in your religious doctrines and traditions, to obey God in some cases is "Anti-Christ.

I can see if one doesn't consider "ALL" God's Words, where these different doctrines and traditions can take hold. But what I have shown, or at least tried to show, that if a person follows the instructions of Jesus, and lives by EVERY Word of God, and not just those ones that can be used to promote this tradition or that religious doctrine, a different understanding is arrived at. At least that has been my experience.

I thought I had been clear about the traditions and doctrines you espoused. And that I have written about them extensively.

Apparently not.

Did the best I could in #195

If you are not physically capable of reading and responding to #195, I don't know what to say.

Did the best I could in #197. If you are physically incapable of reading and responding to 197, I do9n't know what to say.

Already did the best I can do in #198.

If you can't physical read or respond to #198, I don't know what to say.

Already tried twice to get this reply acceptable for you. #190 is the best I can do. If you are not physically capable of reading and responding to #190, I don't know what to say.

It is true I am having some trouble with this new format, but I am getting it figured out. When I highlight Scriptures, it is to emphasize Word's that are key to the verse in my opinion. Now that I know you don't want me to highlight your statement in order to emphasize your words, I will refrain from doing so, though it is a common practice on this forum.

However, much of the scripture you use to promote whatever doctrine you are promoting, contain lessons and words which, in themselves, counter the point I think you are making, in my view.

So if you quote God's Word, I reserve the right to Highlight the Word's of God, since they are not yours, which I think are relevant to the conversation.

they are not yours either. you have no authority over them, no authority to add or subtract meaning , as you freely do.

oh, you can do it, but it just makes what you say invalid if you do it.

I altered your post by separating your words from the Word's of God. I hope this is acceptable to you.

WE read scriptures differently. It took me months to gain even some of the understanding of all that is written about in Jeremiah 6. The entire Bible is there, every Word of the Christ is there.

8 Be thou instructed, O Jerusalem, lest my soul depart from thee; lest I make thee desolate, a land not inhabited.

"I don't know you, depart from me, you who practice iniquity"

10 To whom shall I speak, and give warning, that they may hear? behold, their ear is uncircumcised, and they cannot hearken: behold, the word of the LORD is unto them a reproach; they have no delight in it.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

You are apparently using Jer. 6 to disagree with my post. I don't know exactly what point you are making, or how you believe Jeremiah corrects or exposes the Post I made.

I am in agreement that the Law of faith trumps the Law of Work for remission of sins.

I hope I have this quote thing figured out.

So in your church I can't Highlight scriptures?