I will CAUSE you to walk in my commandments

Cause you; sweetly, powerfully, successfully, yet without compulsion; for our spirit, framed by God’s Spirit to a disposition suitable to his holiness, readily concurreth and co-worketh.

Hey there.

Ezekiel 36:25-27
Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jeremiah 31:34
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Jeremiah 31:31-34 is talking about the new covenant, its also mentioned in the new testament in the book of hebrews. And everyone agrees, we are in the new covenant now, right? Jesus confirms it by saying: "this is my blood of the covenant which is poured out for many" (Mk 14:24)

Ezekiel 36:27 is presumably talking about the same thing. But it says "I will cause you..."

Now the questions comes: WHY isnt this a reality in today's world? I have never met a man born from his mother who keeps all God's commandments, and this obedience SHOULD be perfect. WHy? Because GOD is the one CAUSING it. I dont think God would cause something half-way, that would be a problem.
So whats going on here? Is this talking about the future in the millenium when its going to be fulfilled or what? But even then many people fall away deceived into the Gog and Magog incident

What can we conclude from this? What we have today is not the New Covenant God was talking about. Not yet.

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That's really good - you can consider yerself excluded from the the promises:

(Eph 2:12 KJV) That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

You told me once that you were dispensational but trying to defend certain things made you decide to change your mind(loosely quoting what I remember) was this one of them?

No soandso- while I might have learned over that "away" I always accepted Paul's statement - it was only looking in depth into the dispensationalist "camp" that this glaring contradiction became apparent.

oh I misunderstood you then,lol I suppose everyone highlights the certain things in certain Scriptures that jump out at them and I don't know how to do that fancy stuff so I capitalize it(my wife says that's rude because I'm hollering,but I dont mean it that way,lol),,,

Any way though if we wont say to our brother know ye the Lord because everyone will know him why do you think Jesus commissioned the 70, the 12 apostles, an apostle to the gentiles ect. to go into the world and tell them about the Lord? Who are we preaching to?

I don't think it's a problem to "bold" what a person sees as the "punch line" so to speak.



If I'm following you rightly, as to "ye the Lord because everyone will know him" as a reference to Jeremiah:

No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the LORD,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the LORD. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."

I think there is a fair bit of hyperbole in the prophets - not to say there is no truth to this, as we know the prophet was quoted in Hebrews:

(Heb 8:12 KJV) For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

(Heb 8:13 KJV) In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

I take this to mean that the prophecy of Jerimiah was being fulfilled when Hebrews was written, not something that would occur in a dispensationalist millennium 1900 years later and counting.

lol. but what of the mill. is it 1900 years later and counting?

No, I understand it as the time of the preaching of the gospel by the first fruits till the destruction of Jerusalem in the war of 66 - 70 AD.

The age of Messiah has no end:

(Isa 9:7 KJV) Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

(Luke 1:33 KJV) And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

No, I understand it as the time of the preaching of the gospel by the first fruits till the destruction of Jerusalem in the war of 66 - 70 AD.

New Covenant

Many say we are already in God’s new covenant that was prophesied in the OT and in Acts/Hebrews.

Heb. 8:7-13 “For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.”

Jer. 31:31-34 “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

Do you see the direct link between Jeremiah and Hebrews? What about the parallels in Acts and Joel?

Acts 2:16-18 “But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:”

First a time frame in Joel: Joel 2:1 “Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;”

Next It speaks of a restoration after the Day of the Lord. Then we are given a picture of the new covenant: Joel 2:28,29 “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.”

What can we conclude from this? What we have today is not the New Covenant God was talking about. Not yet.

Did you notice that in Acts 2 Peter quotes this Prophecy of Joel as being fulfilled? read a verse back ":.. But this is THAT which was spoken by the Prophet Joel:"....

The New covenant is definately in effect already, if it isnt then we are dead in the water.