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First thing for you to do advanced is to loose the pride.
Psalm 138:6 Though the Lord be high, yet hath he respect unto the lowly: but the proud he knoweth afar off.
Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
Psalm 138:6 Though the Lord be high, yet hath he respect unto the lowly: but the proud he knoweth afar off.
Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
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agree, or disagree , and advancement mean high tolerate toward our belief base on Jesus Christ. Most chat site moderator will just ban anybody if they think there is something fishing going on at the drop of the hat, and give no room for people to speak freely.
Pharisees mean one word isolation. What I was asking if there is a thread that we can discuss without any cult mentality controlling, and isolating the one that is gifted, or has spiritual gifts.
I've got some natural talent where I am able to discern religion from an another religion it just come to me naturally, and I can tell what spirits you have lots of time, and I practice 1 John 4 a lot, and I practice them using spirits vs spirits, and most Christian doesn't believe this is what 1 John 4 mean, and there is two type of Christian there is one that test the Christians by how it follow up with the word, and there is an another type of Christian that test the spirits by testing using spirits vs spirits.
I use spirits vs spirits because there is many false prophet among us, and if we do not practice spirits vs spirits then we'd won't be able to tell the different between good, and evil. If we cannot tell what is good, and evil then we'd be walking blind, and how can we disguise the spirits, and it's written everything God give is good, and if we cannot tell if it come from God, and reject it simply because you thought it was evil acting on milk thinking you got it all figure out, but really you haven't, and that why discernment is so important the kind where it's on meat where you face all obstacle, and challenge.
You see a lot of people do not want you to understand, and neither want you to learn, and or try. Many just want you to cease, and want you to stop practicing your gift. Most will want you to get medication, and want you to go see a doctor, and many have no desire to try to improve your gift, and try to make you better.
Hebrew 5:14
But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil.
Pharisees mean one word isolation. What I was asking if there is a thread that we can discuss without any cult mentality controlling, and isolating the one that is gifted, or has spiritual gifts.
I've got some natural talent where I am able to discern religion from an another religion it just come to me naturally, and I can tell what spirits you have lots of time, and I practice 1 John 4 a lot, and I practice them using spirits vs spirits, and most Christian doesn't believe this is what 1 John 4 mean, and there is two type of Christian there is one that test the Christians by how it follow up with the word, and there is an another type of Christian that test the spirits by testing using spirits vs spirits.
I use spirits vs spirits because there is many false prophet among us, and if we do not practice spirits vs spirits then we'd won't be able to tell the different between good, and evil. If we cannot tell what is good, and evil then we'd be walking blind, and how can we disguise the spirits, and it's written everything God give is good, and if we cannot tell if it come from God, and reject it simply because you thought it was evil acting on milk thinking you got it all figure out, but really you haven't, and that why discernment is so important the kind where it's on meat where you face all obstacle, and challenge.
You see a lot of people do not want you to understand, and neither want you to learn, and or try. Many just want you to cease, and want you to stop practicing your gift. Most will want you to get medication, and want you to go see a doctor, and many have no desire to try to improve your gift, and try to make you better.
Hebrew 5:14
But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil.
Proud is what pharisees does which is isolation, control, hushing you up, or try to convert you, or make you agree with them.
The humble is where you allow people, and flexibility where you have no desire to control, or put a stumbling block, or try to make them where you want them up to your standards.
You see when one is taught by God they are being taught as Paul is being taught, and people share then they want to jump on them for not agreeing, or understanding this is proud, and what I am trying to tell y'all is that being proud is like being stiffed necked.
I come to ask if I can find a room where I can openly share, and most place I go want to censorship me because they do not like Christian that are being taught by God, and they want to keep only the one that have no idea what's going on lol.
The humble is where you allow people, and flexibility where you have no desire to control, or put a stumbling block, or try to make them where you want them up to your standards.
You see when one is taught by God they are being taught as Paul is being taught, and people share then they want to jump on them for not agreeing, or understanding this is proud, and what I am trying to tell y'all is that being proud is like being stiffed necked.
I come to ask if I can find a room where I can openly share, and most place I go want to censorship me because they do not like Christian that are being taught by God, and they want to keep only the one that have no idea what's going on lol.
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You are able to discern (with your spiritual gifts) that Christianity is not a religion, right? Christianity is a Faith. Christianity and religion have little in common. Which of the "gifts of the Holy Spirit" that the Apostle Paul described do you have?
As for telling one religion from another, well, shoot, I can do that. I can easily identify the Jewish Religion from the Mormon, or the pagan, or the Muslim, or the Buddhists, or Hindu......or any such. Not sure that qualifies as a "gift of the Spirit" though.
Where in Scripture did you find that you personally can command spirits to do your bidding? That one is "iffy" at best in my opinion.
You said: I practice them using spirits vs spirits,
As for 1 John, 4........well, shoot......John TELLS US which spirits are which, and how to discern that, so, again, not sure that is a "gift of the Spirit," or just doing what John said to do.
1 John 4:1) Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2)Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
See?
These spirits are "of God"
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And, these spirits are not.
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
There ya go!
As for telling good from evil, does Scripture itself not tell us that? All we have to do is read Scripture. As well, IF we are Sanctified (filled with the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit), He will tell us what is good and what is evil. No need for a special gift for that.
May I ask what your Native Language is? You appear to be struggling with the English Language.......
Anyway, while interesting, I find little evidence of these "supernatural gifts" you speak of. The Holy Spirit itself, and/or Scripture itself can tell any believer what you claim to be able to discern.
As for telling one religion from another, well, shoot, I can do that. I can easily identify the Jewish Religion from the Mormon, or the pagan, or the Muslim, or the Buddhists, or Hindu......or any such. Not sure that qualifies as a "gift of the Spirit" though.
Where in Scripture did you find that you personally can command spirits to do your bidding? That one is "iffy" at best in my opinion.
You said: I practice them using spirits vs spirits,
As for 1 John, 4........well, shoot......John TELLS US which spirits are which, and how to discern that, so, again, not sure that is a "gift of the Spirit," or just doing what John said to do.
1 John 4:1) Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2)Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
See?
These spirits are "of God"
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And, these spirits are not.
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
There ya go!
As for telling good from evil, does Scripture itself not tell us that? All we have to do is read Scripture. As well, IF we are Sanctified (filled with the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit), He will tell us what is good and what is evil. No need for a special gift for that.
May I ask what your Native Language is? You appear to be struggling with the English Language.......
Anyway, while interesting, I find little evidence of these "supernatural gifts" you speak of. The Holy Spirit itself, and/or Scripture itself can tell any believer what you claim to be able to discern.
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Or you could cut to the chase and tell us what you really want to say.
I'm fairly dogmatic about two things; the integrity of scripture, being that I believe heavily in the integrity of scripture, I have one serious rule. Don't misuse scripture. Not to make a good point, to make a personal point, or a political point. Any of these will receive a bad reaction from me.
The other is a sales pitch. I hate a sales pitch almost as bad as the misuse of scripture. If you have my ear then say what's on your mind. If you have my ear and go into the many reasons I should listen to you before you make your point you can stuff it. Your probably lying. It's like buying a book and them sitting down to read it and the first 10 pages are about why you should read the book. Likely that book is headed to the trash can.
I guess in short; get on with it. what do you want to say? I'll decide what I think of it then.
I'm fairly dogmatic about two things; the integrity of scripture, being that I believe heavily in the integrity of scripture, I have one serious rule. Don't misuse scripture. Not to make a good point, to make a personal point, or a political point. Any of these will receive a bad reaction from me.
The other is a sales pitch. I hate a sales pitch almost as bad as the misuse of scripture. If you have my ear then say what's on your mind. If you have my ear and go into the many reasons I should listen to you before you make your point you can stuff it. Your probably lying. It's like buying a book and them sitting down to read it and the first 10 pages are about why you should read the book. Likely that book is headed to the trash can.
I guess in short; get on with it. what do you want to say? I'll decide what I think of it then.
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Alright what wanna see how fast I get block from this chat? What if I told y'all I believe in alien, and alien has lots to do with Jesus Christ?
I've posted all over the internet trying to tell people this, and all they did was delete it first thing, and not let the public read it.
Now I am wondering how can I exposed what I was taught cause people are totally rejecting this. I've met many spirits, and testing lots of spirits many has fail, but two has pass, and two are alien, and are of God, and from Jesus Christ.
At first I grieve, and I went through the 5 stage of grieve, but now I've grown to accept it, and I am happy, and everything is making sense, and I've found many verse in the Bible that related to them, and I even seen them many times in the past, and I see them here, and there, and it's more common than we realize, and they really are among us.
The only reason I have this knowledge is because I prayed, and asked God for knowledge, and this is one of my gift it's gift of knowledge.
Many people have it, and it is very common, and it's not that rare, and the different between me, and most people is that I was being revealed, or they just don't say nothing I do not know which.
Censorship, or not it's widespread, and already out there, and y'all have seen it yourselves too, but are not realizing it.
I'm gonna go ahead, and go head on, and see how fast I get a boot, and lets find out how proud y'all are cause who can stand this?
I know many cannot stand this, but it's just me being brave, and forwarding, and telling y'all what I was being revealed. If y'all have ears to hear maybe y'all just may learn something, and maybe we're in a great apostasy, and maybe this could be a chance to reemerge out of the great apostasy.
1 Timothy 4:4
For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,
1 Timothy 4:5
because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
Alright the Bible says nothing is to be rejected if received with thanksgiving, and concentrated by the word of God, and prayer.
We are to trust in the Lord no matter what, but the pharisees they do not want you to trust God they want you to trust them, and want you to become rebellion just like they are, and rebel against the Lord.
You see I do not understand, but I am being taught by faith, and trusting in the Lord, and this is what the Lord want from us.
We cannot pleased God without faith, and it's faith that what please the Lord.
I've received them through thanksgiving, and from reading the word of God, and it came to me, and I've tested these spirits, and it has testify, and pass the test, and they are good, and has been good, and everything what God has give is good.
Now there is jealous people, and proud people that judge by mere appearance, and think they know everything when really they know nothing, and they just want to be ignorant, and just shut their ears simply because they are a coward.
Cowardly goes to hell y'all it's written, and I do not want to condemned y'all, and God forgive them for what they not know what they do.
Y'all see I am just as human as y'all, and I am trying, and people doesn't want to hear it, and they just want to isolate, and be a pharisees, and this is why I am asking if y'all have a room that can bear a great burden, and truth, or allow people to freely speak without an instant ban?
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Your gifts are between u and God. He gives gifts for his own glory. Not yours or any other person.
I don't care if you have them, its something between you and God. You can't expect everyone to approve and have the same attitudE of you.
Don't be discouraged. Take it to God. He will bring you places. Sometimes God lets us be rejected many times to learn and prepare you before you get a place
I don't care if you have them, its something between you and God. You can't expect everyone to approve and have the same attitudE of you.
Don't be discouraged. Take it to God. He will bring you places. Sometimes God lets us be rejected many times to learn and prepare you before you get a place
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Please, more about these aliens. The fact that they exist should be widely accepted in the Church, as angel spirits/demon spirits are surely alien to this world.
Do your aliens have a name? I do want to know more about the spirits you command. Do they have names? How many of them are there? How did you come to be in command of them?
Do you understand the Holy Spirit? Do you understand the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in Sanctified believers? Do you realize that such believers CAN NOT be possessed by any other spirit?
Anyway, please go ahead............and, shoot........you are STILL here........... so
Do your aliens have a name? I do want to know more about the spirits you command. Do they have names? How many of them are there? How did you come to be in command of them?
Do you understand the Holy Spirit? Do you understand the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in Sanctified believers? Do you realize that such believers CAN NOT be possessed by any other spirit?
Anyway, please go ahead............and, shoot........you are STILL here........... so
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With respect, the above passage was not written to defend you, or any other person presenting some sort of teaching to others, in that they must receive it thankfully.
The passage is speaking of food, not of doctrines. That is the intent of the passage contextually, and exegetically. I hope you are able to receive this correction, 2 Timothy 3:16 as seemingly you are here to correct everyone else, otherwise they are labelled Pharisees.
The passage is speaking of food, not of doctrines. That is the intent of the passage contextually, and exegetically. I hope you are able to receive this correction, 2 Timothy 3:16 as seemingly you are here to correct everyone else, otherwise they are labelled Pharisees.
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Right I tried to worship these alien cause I wasn't sure what I was suppose to be doing, and God got angry at me, and the alien told me to focus on Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, and I asked the Holy Spirit if it was ok to talk to it the Holy Spirit told me it was ok.
I've learned alot in the past 3 years, and now everything is making sense more sense than before, and it made the Bible make sense too, and honestly I am more happy than I've ever been, and I believe Jesus is the true Messiah because these alien are human like us they are flesh just like us, and it make a lot of sense why the Bible make sure these spirits confess that Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and it has to have the word flesh, and if it doesn't have the word flesh then it's a spirits of error.
We can know the true spirits through how they testify Christ that he is God in the flesh, and I know there is a scripture that says this.
Matthew 8:29
"What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"
Y'all see I've met many spirits around 300 give or take, and I've not seen a true one would encourage me to worship Jesus, tell me to server Christ, and or point me to Christ. The true one will point you to Jesus Christ, and will not tell you to worship it, or anything, but they are a person still.
You see I've met so many spirits they all have different energy, and the spirits from Christ is unique they are flesh just like us they are human just like us, and that what make them unique, and this is why I am a believer that Jesus is the true Messiah.
John 18:36
Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place."
Christ said his kingdom is from an another place so it makes perfect sense to to me.
Alright here is an another evident that it is from Jesus Christ he said if Satan was in his kingdom the house cannot stand so it shake, and it's either Satan leave, or the Spirit of God leave. True one will beable to withstand the kingdom of God, and it will stand, and glorify Christ, the Father, and the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 12:22-28 New King James Version (NKJV)
A House Divided Cannot Stand
22 Then one was brought to Him who was demon-possessed, blind and mute; and He healed him, so that the [a]blind and mute man both spoke and saw. 23 And all the multitudes were amazed and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”
24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by [b]Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”
25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast themout? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
I've learned alot in the past 3 years, and now everything is making sense more sense than before, and it made the Bible make sense too, and honestly I am more happy than I've ever been, and I believe Jesus is the true Messiah because these alien are human like us they are flesh just like us, and it make a lot of sense why the Bible make sure these spirits confess that Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and it has to have the word flesh, and if it doesn't have the word flesh then it's a spirits of error.
We can know the true spirits through how they testify Christ that he is God in the flesh, and I know there is a scripture that says this.
Matthew 8:29
"What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"
Y'all see I've met many spirits around 300 give or take, and I've not seen a true one would encourage me to worship Jesus, tell me to server Christ, and or point me to Christ. The true one will point you to Jesus Christ, and will not tell you to worship it, or anything, but they are a person still.
You see I've met so many spirits they all have different energy, and the spirits from Christ is unique they are flesh just like us they are human just like us, and that what make them unique, and this is why I am a believer that Jesus is the true Messiah.
John 18:36
Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place."
Christ said his kingdom is from an another place so it makes perfect sense to to me.
Alright here is an another evident that it is from Jesus Christ he said if Satan was in his kingdom the house cannot stand so it shake, and it's either Satan leave, or the Spirit of God leave. True one will beable to withstand the kingdom of God, and it will stand, and glorify Christ, the Father, and the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 12:22-28 New King James Version (NKJV)
A House Divided Cannot Stand
22 Then one was brought to Him who was demon-possessed, blind and mute; and He healed him, so that the [a]blind and mute man both spoke and saw. 23 And all the multitudes were amazed and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”
24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by [b]Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”
25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast themout? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
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This here sound worldly, and not spiritual the Bible is a spiritual book, and this is why we're in a great apostasy cause people like you are not understanding the Bible lmao.
People need to read the Bible as a spiritual book, and I know you do not understand, and neither did I, and we just have to be taught by God, and if you do received something from God through thanksgiving please do not go against the Lord, and always test you just may be thankful that you have humbled.