Having doubts.

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Tegelik

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For over an year I have been having doubts. I completely believe in God and am definitely saved, but deep inside my heart I have been having such doubts, that how do I know that this whole world is not all just an illusion, how do I know that I can trust in logic or anything? These sorts of doubts have stolen away my peace and joy. I am unable to worship God with joy as I used to. Could someone just give me some advice here? How do I get complete trust in God back?

Logic is the only thing we humans have to figure things out and I'm doubting how can I trust logic...

I think only God can supernaturally take away my doubts, but why hasn't He still? Maybe this is the question I should be asking.

I know my doubts are completely ridiculous and don't make any sense :p

Now it's not that bad, I do have faith, but no peace, joy and deep happiness. These are the only things I want right now.
 
Nuhen

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Well, to be honest, I'm a bit confused myself...you're doubting whether or not this world is actually an illusion?
 
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Tegelik

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Well.. I'm just doubting how can I be sure of anything? How can I trust anything? Maybe "illusion" wasn't the best wording lol.
 
Nuhen

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Yeah, I was gonna say...it feels pretty real to me XD
 
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greatkraw

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I was an atheist for a while until I sat down and seriously read the Bible
If you are not getting some Bible input every day then you are starving spiritually and your resistance is down
 
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Tegelik

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greatkraw said:
I was an atheist for a while until I sat down and seriously read the Bible
If you are not getting some Bible input every day then you are starving spiritually and your resistance is down
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Do you mean you were a christian and then lost faith completely for some time?
 
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greatkraw

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Tegelik said:
Do you mean you were a christian and then lost faith completely for some time?
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I was saved

then I swallowed the whole evolution thing
then we got eric von daniken and chariots of the gods

then I decided to start reading the bible from cover to cover to see what I thought
I was halfway through Exodus and I was convinced this was the truth
that was 40 years ago
 
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Me, I was raised Jewish but fell away because I lacked a strong moral connection with my parents. When I came back, I was convinced by my Messianic girlfriend that Christianity was the way to go, so I converted. Then after she died, I started to reevaluate that, and came to the conclusion that I can't follow Christianity because I believe it to be wrong. So I went back to Judaism, but rather than follow it, remained in a sort of limbo state of being until very recently, when I started full on following Judaism, taking all the steps, following all the theology, teaching it, the whole shebang.

So, in my mind, I haven't REALLY been following G-d until this past year :)
 
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Tegelik said:
For over an year I have been having doubts. I completely believe in God and am definitely saved, but deep inside my heart I have been having such doubts, that how do I know that this whole world is not all just an illusion, how do I know that I can trust in logic or anything? These sorts of doubts have stolen away my peace and joy. I am unable to worship God with joy as I used to. Could someone just give me some advice here? How do I get complete trust in God back?

Logic is the only thing we humans have to figure things out and I'm doubting how can I trust logic...

I think only God can supernaturally take away my doubts, but why hasn't He still? Maybe this is the question I should be asking.

I know my doubts are completely ridiculous and don't make any sense :p

Now it's not that bad, I do have faith, but no peace, joy and deep happiness. These are the only things I want right now.
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Because sometimes God says wait, or even no. He has a plan for your life, that he does not need to explain to you. If you trust in him, he will show you the way.

Continue to pray, not my will Lord, but yours. He may be refining your spirituality for a purpose that you may not know yet.

Faith and peace and joy are there. Read the Bible every day. Talk to God as often as you can, even if its driving to work or school, or on a lunch break, or just cleaning up the house or putting gas in your car.

What you want sometimes is not necessarily what is best for you. Many christians have learned that the hard way. God loves you. Pray, read the bible, and wait. I know how hard that sounds, and if I could share my experience with you it may help you to understand how hard it is to get an answer from God that says wait, or no.

But for now, I will pray for you.

In Christ,
Debbie
 
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Brackenzee

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Having doubts is perfectly normal. Don't think for a minute that there's something wrong with you.
 
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ness

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hi im new, but i read ur post and i just wanted to say you should read the bible,also,to me going to church gives me alot of faith sometimes i do have douts but then i go to church and i get very joyfull even after a bad week even if u cant go 2 church its fun to read the bible and the verse that i really like is "for god so LOVED THE WORLD he gave his only begot son for who ever belives in my shell NOT perish but have EVER LASTING"

to me that means god loves you and and if u love him he'll give you alot because he all ready gave us his son and that was the gratest gift.
your in my prayes
 
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Having doubts is perfectly normal. Don't think for a minute that there's something wrong with you.
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^ Right here. Even the prophets doubted at times. Doubt is not a sin.
 
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Tegelik
God bless you. This world is very real. You can take a pin and poke yourself. If you feel it then you can know this is all real.


Logic is you thinking. People want ot pick everything to pieces in their minds. You are not to go by logic. You are to go by the word of God.

You are to cast down your thoughts. You are to be lead by the Holy Spirit that lives inside of you. The flesh has the devil in it. Thats why you are not to let your mind wonder all around.
You are to take charge of your mind. Put your helmet on. You should be reading your bible, talking to God always. Everytime something comes into your mind going agaisnt God you are to say devil get away from my mind in Jesus name.

This is very important. You don't let the devil romp around your mind. Of course the devil wants you to doubt. Everytime you doubt you are turning your life over to satan.

You have to put a stop to this doubting. Thats your job for the rest of your life.

Read the word and trust God. Pray for his wisdom and his thoughts.
Thats your mind and you are to give your mind to God for him to fill you. Don't let the devil put trash into your mind.

Its not OK to go around doubting all the time. When you doubt you are saying you don't believe in or trust God.

You'll be Ok. Put your trust in God and protect your mind from the devil.
 
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Tegelik said:
For over an year I have been having doubts. I completely believe in God and am definitely saved, but deep inside my heart I have been having such doubts, that how do I know that this whole world is not all just an illusion, how do I know that I can trust in logic or anything? These sorts of doubts have stolen away my peace and joy. I am unable to worship God with joy as I used to. Could someone just give me some advice here? How do I get complete trust in God back?

Logic is the only thing we humans have to figure things out and I'm doubting how can I trust logic...

I think only God can supernaturally take away my doubts, but why hasn't He still? Maybe this is the question I should be asking.

I know my doubts are completely ridiculous and don't make any sense :p

Now it's not that bad, I do have faith, but no peace, joy and deep happiness. These are the only things I want right now.
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Neat!

Questioning is good. You are pursing God with your mind and heart - nothing wrong with that. Here is a secret I know to be true......He will not let you down! You might want to check out a small, but deep writing called 'The Hound of Heaven' - it is about this type of pursuit.

Personally, I think at the heart of every honest Christian is an agnostic - despite the pious, although, well-meaning assurances of many brothers and sisters in Christ, we cannot know and that is ok. Where you run into trouble is if you decide that you faith is contingent on certainty.

After questioning for many years, and actually making a significant change in the church I choose to attend, I decided that I will learn to love God, myself, and others whether there is a God our not. Now, I happen to believe there is a loving God who is the only reason I can love in the first place, however the mental exercise really freed me up to realize my purpose in this world. Therefore, my declaration to a possibly godless universe is unbridled, servant focused love.

God Bless
 
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theanointedsinner

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Tegelik said:
Well.. I'm just doubting how can I be sure of anything? How can I trust anything? Maybe "illusion" wasn't the best wording lol.
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if there's nothing to be sure of, can you be sure of that?
if you can trust nothing? would the idea "You can trust nothing" be a trustworthy statement?

as a desperate claim,
certainty do exist, because we can be sure of the existence of uncertainty
 
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glf1

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Tegelik said:
For over an year I have been having doubts. I completely believe in God and am definitely saved, but deep inside my heart I have been having such doubts, that how do I know that this whole world is not all just an illusion, how do I know that I can trust in logic or anything? These sorts of doubts have stolen away my peace and joy. I am unable to worship God with joy as I used to. Could someone just give me some advice here? How do I get complete trust in God back?

Logic is the only thing we humans have to figure things out and I'm doubting how can I trust logic...
I think only God can supernaturally take away my doubts, but why hasn't He still? Maybe this is the question I should be asking.
I know my doubts are completely ridiculous and don't make any sense :p
Now it's not that bad, I do have faith, but no peace, joy and deep happiness. These are the only things I want right now.
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Hey! Tegelik... PTL!
Holy Father, full of love and life, gather Tegelik into your arms and hold em close to your heart. Give Tegelik life and make your word to be the power of your might to the heart and mind. Make you word to call to Tegelik like water in a desert, like a light on a hill in a land of darkness. Make your word to come alive and become Jesus to the Tegelik's soul and spirit. Lord, put your commandments into Tegelik's heart and mind, making em to be a child of the new covenant. Give Tegelik a burden for others who are in need and favor with yourself. Harken unto Tegelik's prayers going before and following after as Tegelik makes their way. In Jesus' name. Amen.
The scriptures are not the word of God just because they say that they are; They come us with the power to transform our lives toward godliness, to increase our faith so that our prayers get answered, and minister the Lord's presence to our spirit's so that we learn of him, Spirit to spirit. The Holy Spirit also takes the blood of Jesus and uses it to purge our consciences from dead works, so that we can serve the Lord. Each of us battle against temptation and we have some wonderful promises to deal with it and too if we do stumble, we have an advocate with the Father who makes intercession for us. The mind set upon the flesh is death; but the mind set upon the Spirit is life and peace. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginatins and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God and bring every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ. The weapons of our warfare are the sword of the Spirit and the Shield of faith. Set your mind to the word of the Lord rather than let any ole thought of doubt come upon you unchallenged. And rather than trying to not think about a doubt, set your mind to that memory verse you could be working on, like for example: Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving make your requests known unto God and the peace that passes all understanding will keep your heart and mind in Christ Jesus. The Lord's will is not for you to be tormented with doubts, but rather; to be an able minister of the gospel with both the word and ministry of reconciliation, whose prayer of faith is answered in its time. And who is able to comfort others with the same comfort which the Lord has comforted you with. The Lord bless you with himself forever!
Greg
 
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Nehemiah6

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Tegelik said:
...how do I know that this whole world is not all just an illusion...
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Because of the incarnation, death, burial, resurrection, ascension, and exaltation of the Lord Jesus Christ (God who became Man) -- as historically and spiritually recorded in the Gospels -- you have assurance from God that the whole world is not an illusion, and Bible Christianity is not a delusion.
 
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glf1 said:
Hey! Tegelik... PTL!
Holy Father, full of love and life, gather Tegelik into your arms and hold em close to your heart. Give Tegelik life and make your word to be the power of your might to the heart and mind. Make you word to call to Tegelik like water in a desert, like a light on a hill in a land of darkness. Make your word to come alive and become Jesus to the Tegelik's soul and spirit. Lord, put your commandments into Tegelik's heart and mind, making em to be a child of the new covenant. Give Tegelik a burden for others who are in need and favor with yourself. Harken unto Tegelik's prayers going before and following after as Tegelik makes their way. In Jesus' name. Amen.
The scriptures are not the word of God just because they say that they are; They come us with the power to transform our lives toward godliness, to increase our faith so that our prayers get answered, and minister the Lord's presence to our spirit's so that we learn of him, Spirit to spirit. The Holy Spirit also takes the blood of Jesus and uses it to purge our consciences from dead works, so that we can serve the Lord. Each of us battle against temptation and we have some wonderful promises to deal with it and too if we do stumble, we have an advocate with the Father who makes intercession for us. The mind set upon the flesh is death; but the mind set upon the Spirit is life and peace. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginatins and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God and bring every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ. The weapons of our warfare are the sword of the Spirit and the Shield of faith. Set your mind to the word of the Lord rather than let any ole thought of doubt come upon you unchallenged. And rather than trying to not think about a doubt, set your mind to that memory verse you could be working on, like for example: Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving make your requests known unto God and the peace that passes all understanding will keep your heart and mind in Christ Jesus. The Lord's will is not for you to be tormented with doubts, but rather; to be an able minister of the gospel with both the word and ministry of reconciliation, whose prayer of faith is answered in its time. And who is able to comfort others with the same comfort which the Lord has comforted you with. The Lord bless you with himself forever!
Greg
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