Trump Responds To Pope Saying He's 'Not Christian'

Thats exactly what Anti means. They both mean a substitute of, in place of, or instead of Christ.

"(Latin vicarius, from vice, "instead of")" - http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15401a.htm

1 Corinthians 3:11-15 and John 10 say that ther are 2 kinds of Christians. I read reports that President Trump did have a true born again happening during the campaign. He does now manifest the fruit of the Spirit. Do you? The current Pope is mostly not Biblical, but I pray daily for him. Do you?
***The Apostle Paul wrote a lot of verses that indicated Holy Spirit urged discerning/warning judging.

And check what 1 Corinthians 6:1-11 says.

I look for the good in others and in churches,

but The Holy Spirit helps me to realize wrongs and sins to at least do intercessory prayer about.

Sometimes I have to exhort or even rebuke.

Some have responded with a rebuke against me accusing me of condemn judging.

I have never done the just mentioned.

Matthew 7:1 “Judge not, that ye be not judged.” has been misused so much by individuals

who don't want to repent towards Christ-likeness righteousness

and some of the famous Christian leaders have threatened those who oppose their teaching and life styles.

Constructive criticism is not a judging sin.

If one looks at the context of Matthew 7:1, he or she will discover that it does not apply

to what is said above about judging

and to the following statements.

True Christians will not condemn judge, but they will discern right and wrong judge so they

can do proper intercessory prayer

and do Holy Spirit urged exhortation or rebuke as

Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul, and many Christian leaders have done in the past.

For the much needed church discipline to take place the discerning judging needs to be done.

Also the Bible is full of warnings about unrighteous actions and teaching being done

and such require discerning judging.

There is too much tolerance of wrongs in the Christian churches and in society.

But extreme carefulness must be done in the indicated exhorting and warning ministries.

A pastor cannot even do such without making judgments

about what Scripture to teach and how to teach it.



***”Anti-Christ” is only directly mentioned in 1 John and indicates an “instead of Jesus” spirit possessed by many.

And 2 Timothy 3:1-5 indicates that many professing “Christians” are living wrongly.

But it is harder to forgive now, especially the secular politicians like Obama and the bad Christian leaders

because the “they know not what they do” doesn't seem to apply.

Please list the ways in which Trump manifests the fruit of the spirit.

Anti means opposed to, Vicar means substitute for or delegated authority to.

this is the definition of anti
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti
this is the definition of vicarious
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vicarious

"Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder." See his speeches. Also Jesus said that hatred is equal to murder, so your hate against the duly elected President is very very wrong.

Pray for All People
1Ti 2:1 Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men,
1Ti 2:2 for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence.
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Submission to the Authorities
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
Rom 13:2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.
Rom 13:4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.
Rom 13:5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience' sake.

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Who said that I hated him? Do you think he writes his own speeches? Also you dodged my question, please list examples of him displaying the fruit of the spirit.

When the Anti christ rules the world, do you suppose you should submit to him because he's an authority?

***It is obvious that you hate him.
I believe that he does write most of his speeches and adds to his copy of them. He probably does such much much more than any President in the past. The Fruit of the Spirit is indicated many times in every speech I have heard or read of his. I am not in the White House, so I have no such evidence, but he does attend Bible study groups there.

I didn't say that I submit to him. I do consider his exhortations, usually those are what I believe or are concerned about already. We are to obey the authorities and the laws as long as they don't command us to say or do contrary to God's commandments.

Your last question is stupid.

Is there a way to look up which speeches of his were written by who? I mean it's something I'd think might be out there anyway.

Glad someone gets that, better example than I would've thought of (and this is coming from a Trump-supporter).

I guess you didn't understand my explanations. You might look for things to be thankful for instead of looking for people and things to be critical of. The bads and untruthfulness will manifest eventually. The Holy Spirit helps me with such. Looking for the good has made me vulnerable to deceit and betrayals and being forsaken, but God blesses me with divine peace and eventually divine joy frequently. I have no guilt or shame because of such a philosophy in dealing with our current World.

In response to “debate your cause with your neighbor” in a **link removed** posting:



Colossians 3:

12 Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved,

put on

tender feelings of mercy, kindness,

humbleness of mind, meekness, long-suffering,

13 forbearing one another and forgiving yourselves,

if anyone has a complaint against any.

As Christ forgave you, so also you do.

14 And above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfectness.

15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which you also are called in one body,

and be thankful.

16 Let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom,

teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs,

singing with grace in your hearts to The Lord.

17 And everything, whatever you do in word or deed,

do all in the Name of The Lord Jesus,

giving thanks to God and The Father by Him.

18 Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as is becoming in The Lord.

19 Husbands, love your wives, and do not be bitter against them.

20 Children, obey your parents in all things,

for this is well-pleasing to The Lord.

21 Fathers, do not provoke your children, lest they be discouraged.

22 Slaves, obey your masters according to the flesh in all things;

not with eye-service, as men (or women)-pleasers,

but in singleness of heart, fearing God.

23 And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to The Lord and not to men (and women);

24 knowing that from The Lord you shall receive the reward of the inheritance.

For you serve the Lord Christ.

25 But he (or she) who does wrong shall receive justice for the wrong which he (or she) did,

and there is no respect of persons.

Colossians 4:

1 Masters, give to your slaves what is just and equal, knowing that you also have a Master in Heaven.

2 Continue in prayer and watch in it with thanksgiving,

3 praying together about us also, that God may open to us a door of the Word,

to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I also have been bound,

4 that I may make it clear, as I ought to speak.

5 Walk in wisdom toward those on the outside, redeeming the time.

6 Let your speech be always with grace, having been seasoned with salt,

that you may know how you ought to answer each one.

Bet you a nickel it goes over their heads,,,the media said don't trust the media and they believed it,lol

So , what is your view on the Roman Catholic church vs. we American Catholics... I feel the same.. just want to here your views on the subject...

This source imparts that the etymology of Vicar would mean deputy or second in command. The Pope being labeled, Vicar of Christ would then be a title that informs the Pope is deputy or second in command of Christ.
vicar (n.)
early 14c., from Anglo-French vicare, Old French vicaire "deputy, second in command," also in the ecclesiastical sense (12c.), from Latin vicarius "a substitute, deputy, proxy," noun use of adjective vicarius "substituted, delegated," from vicis "change, interchange, succession; a place, position" (from PIE root *weik- (2) "to bend, to wind"). The original notion is of "earthly representative of God or Christ;" but also used in sense of "person acting as parish priest in place of a real parson" (early 14c.).



The original Vicar of Bray (in figurative use from 1660s) seems to have been Simon Allen, who held the benefice from c. 1540 to 1588, thus serving from the time of Henry VIII to Elizabeth I, being twice a Catholic and twice a Protestan



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https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=G473&t=KJV

Vicar of = Anti

Vicar of Christ = Anti Christ

are there many antichrists 1 John 2:8

[/QUOTE] I get the Strong's Greek for "anti". That says nothing about a correlation to Vicar.

Dictionary meaning of Anti... opposed to.. against.. (substitute of ???) where did you get that???

I get the Strong's Greek for "anti". That says nothing about a correlation to Vicar.[/QUOTE]
Do we really know what was going on with the Catholics 1500 years ago? Have'nt studied that period that much Because that was a period that they want to forget.. LOL. they had total power in government. and that is where the corruption came from. A person wanting to be in politics had to say they they were religious.. " Catholic"..

Do we really know what was going on with the Catholics 1500 years ago? Have'nt studied that period that much Because that was a period that they want to forget.. LOL. they had total power in government. and that is where the corruption came from. A person wanting to be in politics had to say they they were religious.. " Catholic"..[/QUOTE]
I travel quite a bit. I was in a small town a few months ago that had a quaint little used book store. There I found a first edition book for the price of $1.00 that was the best money I'd spent for a book in awhile.
UNZIPPED THE POPES BARE ALL A Frank Study Of Sex And Corruption In The Vatican.
It's published by American Atheist's Press. But the contents are the result of research gleaned from the Vatican archives.
Worth the money.
Talk about wickedness and the evil that men did to advance to the office o Pope. And then to be called holy father after that. I agree RC's are not Christian. They're baptized into the faith as newborns. They don't choose to follow Christ, or any of the other things we're told is part of entering into the covenant.
Vatican City. One of the smallest sovereign nations if not the smallest on earth. And one man is essentially dictator over a population of 1 billion plus in the world today who call themselves Roman Catholics.

Call no man Father but your Father in Heaven.

I travel quite a bit. I was in a small town a few months ago that had a quaint little used book store. There I found a first edition book for the price of $1.00 that was the best money I'd spent for a book in awhile.
UNZIPPED THE POPES BARE ALL A Frank Study Of Sex And Corruption In The Vatican.
It's published by American Atheist's Press. But the contents are the result of research gleaned from the Vatican archives.
Worth the money.
Talk about wickedness and the evil that men did to advance to the office o Pope. And then to be called holy father after that. I agree RC's are not Christian. They're baptized into the faith as newborns. They don't choose to follow Christ, or any of the other things we're told is part of entering into the covenant.
Vatican City. One of the smallest sovereign nations if not the smallest on earth. And one man is essentially dictator over a population of 1 billion plus in the world today who call themselves Roman Catholics.

Call no man Father but your Father in Heaven.[/QUOTE]
When I post reply on here. It continues the conversation of the person that I was responding to? The words above are not mine. LOL... { where it starts with 1christian1 I mean.}