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GodsGrace101
Ella85 said:
you should post some scripture about how Catholics will be saved if they go to church considering you believe that if you go to church all will be saved right?
No.
Not right.
And I'm not here to defend catholics.
Do YOU believe you will be saved by NOT obeying the N.T.?
Hebrews 10:25
GodsGrace101
Ella85 said:
Do you obey all that is in the N.T? Everything??
Don't you?
1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.
Ella85 said:
you should post some scripture about how Catholics will be saved if they go to church considering you believe that if you go to church all will be saved right?
No.
Not right.
And I'm not here to defend catholics.
Do YOU believe you will be saved by NOT obeying the N.T.?
Hebrews 10:25
GodsGrace101
Ella85 said:
Do you obey all that is in the N.T? Everything??
Don't you?
1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.
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1st Corinthians 1:21, KJV.. The part in red is precisely what Dcon posted in post 82,470. I guess you can't recognize scripture after all. That's sad..
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
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...THE SPIRIT CLEARLY SAYS that in LATER TIMES some will ABANDON THE FAITH and follow DECEIVING SPIRITS and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through HYPOCRITICAL LIARS, whose CONSCIENCES have been seared as with a hot iron. 1 Timothy 4:1-2
Those who will abandon the faith would unquestionably refer to those who have faith otherwise there will be nothing for them to abandon.
What does this imply with regards to OSAS?
If FAITH ALONE SAVES and then someone abandons his faith and FOLLOW THE DECEIVING SPIRITS or have been DECEIVED by things taught by demons, will they still be saved?
...AT THAT TIME MANY WILL TURN AWAY FROM THE FAITH and will BETRAY and HATE each other, and many FALSE PROPHETS will appear and DECEIVE many people. Because of the increase of WICKEDNESS, the LOVE (2 john 1:6) of most will grow cold, but HE WHO STANDS FIRM TO THE END WILL BE SAVED. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.Matthew 24:10-14
Can these false prophets DECEIVE those who have FAITH?
Did the bible warn us about the DECEPTION by these FALSE PROPHETS, APOSTLES AND TEACHERS? Are they here now?
Can anyone who CLAIMS “ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED” be deceived or are they exempted from such warnings.
...For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles TO DECEIVE EVEN THE ELECT—if that were possible. Matthew 24:10-24
If we do not stand FIRM to the end and abandon the faith by being deceived, God's wrath will be upon us on the day of JUDGMENT.
So let us run the race to the end without RUNNING AHEAD as to say that “I AM ALREADY SAVED AND IS ALWAYS SAVED”, but be sober...
...For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with SOBER JUDGMENT, in accordance with the measure of faith God has given you. Romans 12:3
...Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God. Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; OBEY IT, and REPENT. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you. Revelation 3:2-3
...Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is THE DECEIVER and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who RUNS AHEAD and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work. 2 John 1:7-11
...And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to WAKE UP from your slumber, because OUR SALVATION IS NEARER NOW THAN WHEN WE FIRST BELIEVED. The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light. Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature. Romans 13:11-14
...DO NOT BE DECEIVED: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature WILL REAP DESTRUCTION; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit WILL REAP ETERNAL LIFE. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers. Galatians 6:7-10
...See to it that you DO NOT REFUSE HIM who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, IF WE TURN AWAY FROM HIM WHO WARNS US FROM HEAVEN? Hebrews 12:25
Those who will abandon the faith would unquestionably refer to those who have faith otherwise there will be nothing for them to abandon.
What does this imply with regards to OSAS?
If FAITH ALONE SAVES and then someone abandons his faith and FOLLOW THE DECEIVING SPIRITS or have been DECEIVED by things taught by demons, will they still be saved?
...AT THAT TIME MANY WILL TURN AWAY FROM THE FAITH and will BETRAY and HATE each other, and many FALSE PROPHETS will appear and DECEIVE many people. Because of the increase of WICKEDNESS, the LOVE (2 john 1:6) of most will grow cold, but HE WHO STANDS FIRM TO THE END WILL BE SAVED. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.Matthew 24:10-14
Can these false prophets DECEIVE those who have FAITH?
Did the bible warn us about the DECEPTION by these FALSE PROPHETS, APOSTLES AND TEACHERS? Are they here now?
Can anyone who CLAIMS “ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED” be deceived or are they exempted from such warnings.
...For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles TO DECEIVE EVEN THE ELECT—if that were possible. Matthew 24:10-24
If we do not stand FIRM to the end and abandon the faith by being deceived, God's wrath will be upon us on the day of JUDGMENT.
So let us run the race to the end without RUNNING AHEAD as to say that “I AM ALREADY SAVED AND IS ALWAYS SAVED”, but be sober...
...For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with SOBER JUDGMENT, in accordance with the measure of faith God has given you. Romans 12:3
...Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God. Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; OBEY IT, and REPENT. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you. Revelation 3:2-3
...Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is THE DECEIVER and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who RUNS AHEAD and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work. 2 John 1:7-11
...And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to WAKE UP from your slumber, because OUR SALVATION IS NEARER NOW THAN WHEN WE FIRST BELIEVED. The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light. Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature. Romans 13:11-14
...DO NOT BE DECEIVED: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature WILL REAP DESTRUCTION; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit WILL REAP ETERNAL LIFE. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers. Galatians 6:7-10
...See to it that you DO NOT REFUSE HIM who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, IF WE TURN AWAY FROM HIM WHO WARNS US FROM HEAVEN? Hebrews 12:25
Just wondering @UnderGrace, what did you find funny about this post? 
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Just wondering @UnderGrace, what did you find funny about this post?
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