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UnderGrace

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What happens to aborted babies......fyi

Senomyx

Senomyx boasts that they have “discovered or in-licensed many of the key receptors that mediate taste in humans.” But what they don’t state so plainly is that they used human embryonic kidney cells (HEK 293) taken from an electively aborted fetus in their product testing.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/b...es-from-aborted-babies-in-food-enhancement-te

And vaccines.....

– RA273 – Rubella virus strain taken from the kidney of the 27th electively aborted fetus in a control study group during the 1964 rubella epidemic (7 week gestation – embryonic)

– WI-38 – Taken from the lung tissue of a 3 month gestation electively aborted female

– MRC-5 – Taken from the lung tissue of a 14 week gestation electively aborted male

– An “established human cell line” HEK – Human embryonic kidney; information was obtained by filing a Freedom of Information Act Request.

https://cogforlife.org/package-insert-samples/
 
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bovine_mind

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We don't know exactly, but according to Evangelicals and mere probability, millions and millions never have, and never will "accept Jesus as personal savior". Would YOU rather have been aborted, or grow up a "non-Christian", and then suffer forever. It is an extreme fortunate set of circumstances that allowed you to be born into the right environment, and make you believe that you are one of the people who became a Christian, and will be receiving eternal life. However, your second statement proposes that there is a HUGE loophole in the commonly professed formula for receiving eternal life. Is there "wiggle room", over and above "accepting Jesus as your Personal Savior", with regard to each individual's chances of receiving eternal life. Can you quote Bible verses that support this?

Waggles said:
As to the millions and millions of people who could have been (if those given the privilege of being born to live had not killed their babies) then no one of us can possibly know how many would have come to Christian faith and obedience.
Nor do we know upon how many millions and millions of souls the Lord Jesus will have mercy upon at the time of judgement.
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@bovine_mind
Can you quote Bible verses that support this?
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14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means!
15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy.
17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”
18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
Romans 9 (ESV)
Judgment Before the Great White Throne
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them.
12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.
13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done.
Revelation 20 (ESV)
 
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bovine_mind said:
We don't know exactly, but according to Evangelicals and mere probability, millions and millions never have, and never will "accept Jesus as personal savior". Would YOU rather have been aborted, or grow up a "non-Christian", and then suffer forever. It is an extreme fortunate set of circumstances that allowed you to be born into the right environment, and make you believe that you are one of the people who became a Christian, and will be receiving eternal life. However, your second statement proposes that there is a HUGE loophole in the commonly professed formula for receiving eternal life. Is there "wiggle room", over and above "accepting Jesus as your Personal Savior", with regard to each individual's chances of receiving eternal life. Can you quote Bible verses that support this?
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I was going to say that this twisted view of yours, that it is a greater good to kill babies, and presumably young children under the age of accountability, because there is a much larger chance they will end up in hell, than become a born again believer, would almost require us to do just that. WE should therefore play God, and thwart His plan for Salvation.

BUT, then I saw you are not a Christian, so maybe the Lord has led you here to receive the one True Gospel unto Salvation, that perhaps you have never heard. So here ya go.

God became human flesh in the form of His Only Son, Jesus the Messiah. He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of a virgin, was crucified, and died to pay OUR sin debt, He was raised to life after 3 days in the grave. ALL, according to the Scriptures (Old Testament).

If you confess with your mouth Jesus IS Lord, and believe in your heart that God (the father) raised Him to life, you WILL be saved.

I sincerely pray you accept and believe this Gospel.
 
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"And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had DONE" - So you subscribe to the LOOPHOLE Theory, wherein you won't be condemned by whether or not you confess that you "accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. PennEd, in his post above, seems to disagree. But, this is Old Testament stuff, doesn't New Testament take priority?
 
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bovine_mind

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It's NOT my idea that killing babies is a "greater good". I am not a Christian, but I always wanted to propose the philosophical conundrum to some Christians, and see what they think. To you, there IS no LOOPHOLE for Salvation, people will NOT be judged by "what they have DONE", only by professing that Jesus is Lord. Fair enough, but Waggles, above, seems not to agree.

PennEd said:
I was going to say that this twisted view of yours, that it is a greater good to kill babies, and presumably young children under the age of accountability, because there is a much larger chance they will end up in hell, than become a born again believer, would almost require us to do just that. WE should therefore play God, and thwart His plan for Salvation.
If you confess with your mouth Jesus IS Lord, and believe in your heart that God (the father) raised Him to life, you WILL be saved.
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bovine_mind said:
It's NOT my idea that killing babies is a "greater good". I am not a Christian, but I always wanted to propose the philosophical conundrum to some Christians, and see what they think. To you, there IS no LOOPHOLE for Salvation, people will NOT be judged by "what they have DONE", only by professing that Jesus is Lord. Fair enough, but Waggles, above, seems not to agree.
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Jesus Christ is not a loop hole. He is the ONLY answer.

If you are born once, you die twice, but if you are born twice, you only die once. Those who are not born again will indeed be judged for their sins, or what they have done. Those who are born again have had their sins judged and paid for on a cross, 2000 yrs ago by Jesus.

We will indeed be judged by what we have done, but not for Salvation, but rather for rewards.

You pose your question because you are trying to use human intellect and wisdom, when God says your thoughts are not His thoughts, and His ways not your ways.

You can't understand with your 3 lb brain the Creator of the Universe. Better to just love and trust Him.
 
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jbrooks5912

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Abortion to me is a copp out. If you do not want a baby then why have sex? I mean honestly there is too much of this going around.

It is all about sex in this world. But sex is NOT everything. Dang even young ones at age 13 are doing this because one problem is the parents who say it wpupd be cute for my baby to have a baby.

It is sick and vile because thats where you get these teen moms who are still learning to live.

Then they want to kill the baby instead of adopting the baby out. Sigh its sad very sad.
 
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UnderGrace

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Virginia Del. Kathy Tran Submitted Bill To Save Caterpillars On Same Day As Late-Stage Abortion Bill

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The Democratic Virginia delegate who has recently come under fire for sponsoring a bill in the Virginia House of Delegates that would allow the termination of a pregnancy up to 40 weeks old, is also the chief patron of a bill that would protect the lives of “fall cankerworms” during certain months.

Democratic Virginia Del. Kathy Tran introduced “House Bill No. 2495 – Fall cankerworm; spraying prohibited during certain months” on Jan. 9, the same day as “House Bill No. 2491 — Abortion; eliminate certain requirements.”

Tran came under fire Tuesday for her support of legislation that would allow an abortion to be performed just moments before the birth of a child.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/31/kathy-tran-caterpillars-same-day-abortion/
 
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@bovine_mind
It's NOT my idea that killing babies is a "greater good". I am not a Christian, but I always wanted to propose the philosophical conundrum to some Christians, and see what they think. To you, there IS no LOOPHOLE for Salvation, people will NOT be judged by "what they have DONE", only by professing that Jesus is Lord. Fair enough, but Waggles, above, seems not to agree.
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Not being a Christian rooted and grounded in the holy scriptures you are trapped in your humanistic thinking.
1: being a Bible believing Christian today while one is alive is about a personal relationship with our God and Saviour - whilst we
are living we continue on in the promise of the salvation of our soul and our reward of eternal life to come.
2: those who know of the gospel and of Jesus Christ but choose not to believe and to live the gospel of salvation are doomed.
3: millions and millions of other people have lived and died and have not had opportunity to repent and believe upon Christ Jesus:
as to their eternal fate that belongs to Jesus who will judge every single human being who has ever lived in the history of the
world - His judgement will be righteous and as God knows what every person has done in their life (yes even in secret) he will
decide who he will have mercy on, and on whom he will condemn. That is God's business.

Rather than playing Russian roulette with your soul just submit and repent from your dead works and get baptised by full immersion
and seek to receive the Holy Spirit (God dwelling within you).
You will also have your own spiritual language to worship God in the spirit and in truth > blessings, miracles, healing
lots and lots of good things.
 
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SpoonJuly

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Waggles said:
@bovine_mind

Not being a Christian rooted and grounded in the holy scriptures you are trapped in your humanistic thinking.
1: being a Bible believing Christian today while one is alive is about a personal relationship with our God and Saviour - whilst we
are living we continue on in the promise of the salvation of our soul and our reward of eternal life to come.
2: those who know of the gospel and of Jesus Christ but choose not to believe and to live the gospel of salvation are doomed.
3: millions and millions of other people have lived and died and have not had opportunity to repent and believe upon Christ Jesus:
as to their eternal fate that belongs to Jesus who will judge every single human being who has ever lived in the history of the
world - His judgement will be righteous and as God knows what every person has done in their life (yes even in secret) he will
decide who he will have mercy on, and on whom he will condemn. That is God's business.

Rather than playing Russian roulette with your soul just submit and repent from your dead works and get baptised by full immersion
and seek to receive the Holy Spirit (God dwelling within you).
You will also have your own spiritual language to worship God in the spirit and in truth > blessings, miracles, healing
lots and lots of good things.
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Baptism and tongues has nothing to do with salvation.
Also, one does not have to seek the Holy Spirit, He comes at the moment of salvation.
 
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Miri

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To people who think aborted babies will be okay as they go to heaven and it
saves them problems in this world.

Think what would have happened, or not happened if the following
people had been aborted.



Noah
Abraham
Issac
Jacob
Jospeh
Isaiah
David
Samual
Mary
Joseph
Jesus
Paul
Peter
John

To name a few oh and Satan did try to kill some of them off.

Or maybe a few celebs might help too. There are several named on
the internet who were almost aborted.

Maybe one of those aborted babies would have led your son or daughter
to Christ.

Maybe one of them would have found a cure for the most common cancers.

Maybe one of them would have been the next Billy Graham.

Maybe one of them would have brought peace to a war torn country.

Maybe one of them could have been an amazing Godly president of the US.

Maybe one of them would have come up with a unique way to grow crops
in dry arid places. Etc etc

Just maybe Satan doesn’t want unborn babies to fulfill their potential as he is
scared they may change the world and his evil plans.

Whatever people may say. It’s satan behind all of this, Satan is the destroyer of
men.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Sorry brother but I don't think America should be let off the hook. This country was based on Judeo/Christian values. There is no excuse. And God will hold this country accountable.


"The United States has the highest abortion rate in the western world, and the third-highest abortion rate of all developed nations worldwide." frc.org
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Hmm it didn’t appear as he left America off the hook, America is listed on that listing, maybe so based on but I don’t think invading a foreign land and forcing the natives on to reservations was a honorable thing, about 15 million strong when the first English folks arrive, todays native American population has since rebounded from the slaughter days of old to around 5 million today.
 
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SpoonJuly said:
Baptism and tongues has nothing to do with salvation.
Also, one does not have to seek the Holy Spirit, He comes at the moment of salvation.
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Waggles said:
@SpoonJuly

Wrong: very very wrong.
Go back to the scriptures and throw away your theology.
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So you are admitting that you believe that baptism and spesking in tongues is required for salvation.
No baptism and no tongues equals no salvation.

You are the one who needs to throw away the heresy you have been taught and now spew on this site.
 
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kaylagrl

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KnowMe said:
Hmm it didn’t appear as he left America off the hook, America is listed on that listing, maybe so based on but I don’t think invading a foreign land and forcing the natives on to reservations was a honorable thing, about 15 million strong when the first English folks arrive, todays native American population has since rebounded from the slaughter days of old to around 5 million today.
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America was founded on Christianity. We have strayed a long way off. We have the truth and we will be found accountable in ways other nations are not I believe. Yes,America has done things that were wrong and changed their course. They need to do so again.
 
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kaylagrl

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bovine_mind said:
We don't know exactly, but according to Evangelicals and mere probability, millions and millions never have, and never will "accept Jesus as personal savior". Would YOU rather have been aborted, or grow up a "non-Christian", and then suffer forever. It is an extreme fortunate set of circumstances that allowed you to be born into the right environment, and make you believe that you are one of the people who became a Christian, and will be receiving eternal life. However, your second statement proposes that there is a HUGE loophole in the commonly professed formula for receiving eternal life. Is there "wiggle room", over and above "accepting Jesus as your Personal Savior", with regard to each individual's chances of receiving eternal life. Can you quote Bible verses that support this?
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There is no where in this world where God cannot reach a person. I know of missionaries that have gone to remote places and found believers there. The choice is to every person. Someone gave their lives for you. You can accept that or walk away. Nothing "makes" a person believe other,that is a choice. Let's make that clear.

Do you not think abortion causes suffering of the child? There are people alive today that suffered and lived through an abortion,not as a mother,but as the baby being aborted. God gives us chance after chance to accept Him. Abortion ends a life,period. That is what this thread is about. We have aborted the population of Canada. There is no need of this. 92% of abortions are done on healthy women to healthy babies. It needs to stop,now.
 
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kaylagrl

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SpoonJuly said:
So you are admitting that you believe that baptism and spesking in tongues is required for salvation.
No baptism and no tongues equals no salvation.

You are the one who needs to throw away the heresy you have been taught and now spew on this site.
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Not to be nasty but there is a thread for tongues,please take this discussion there. This is about abortion, a very serious wrong that is being carried out on the innocent. It is a silent holocaust. Please stick to the subject everyone.
 
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