Never Believe

I was a professing Christian once, but I never surrendered to Jesus. I think I never got to that stage because I was very concerned with the concept of accepting the torture of another human being, for the sake of myself.

What else can I say?

If you never surrendered to Jesus, then you never were a professing Christian. Jesus willfully died for us, so that WE don't have to die in our sins without being saved.

Yeah....what she said.

He died for all of us. All we can do is accept it and him as the one and only redeemer and carry the message.

Amen.

"If anyone serves Me, he must follow Me; and where I am, My servant will be as well. If anyone serves Me, the Father will honor him. Now My soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save Me from this hour’? No, it is for this purpose that I have come to this hour. Father, glorify Your name!” Then a voice came from heaven: “I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again.”

Let me ask you a serious question.

Doesn't accepting and venerating the torture of someone for your sakes, make all Christian's sadistic?

That's as nice as I can put it blue_ladybug.

We accept His love for us, knowing it is a gift.

Well okay, but that gift only came at a cost of someone being brutally mistreated & executed. But not just that, Christian's all over the world take joy that Jesus suffered for the sins of mankind.

I couldn't imagine wanting another person to suffer for any reason, so why do you?

So what exactly is your point? The title should be been in the past tense.

There are many people who have refused to obey the Gospel.

And there are always consequences to all decisions.

Perhaps.

Its the fact that he took the punishment we deserve and took it on himself so we dont have to suffer the consequences of our sin anymore that its about. Stop twisting so sickly

Ooops! I did something wrong here's the entire intended response;>

He did what he did voluntarily. He could have stopped it. He could have called lightning down from heaven. His prerogative was to allow it to happen so It's not our job to second guess him. When I came to believe I only had enough education to be a auto mechanics apprentice. I doubted what I read and was suspicious and skeptical of all religion, Christianity included. I certainly was no intellectual my math skills alone prevented me from being considered any kind of genius. But I wasn't dumb. So one night after repeated attempts to understand weather or not God was real or just a shared delusion, I prayed to a God, Jesus himself in fact, . That if he was real to please prove it to me.

HE DID! It changed my life forever. I was still a human mess and it took decades to get most of myself together. After I hit my bottom, I truly learned humility and that was another detour that led to the correct path. There's not enough facts, figures and/or testimonies to convince someone like I was, before the night the Holy Spirit came to me, to convince me that the Bible is true and God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit are real. I took a miracle and the miracle happened to ME! I pray you stay off of some of the roads I've been down. It's killed many, stronger and smarter men and women. If you really want to understand. Humble yourself and ask the only one that can prove it to you Jesus The Christ from Nazareth. That's my sincere advise. If you want to understand Jesus, ask him, not us.

You write similar to the JW’s. (To the OP)

His reward:

Heb 12:2 fixing our attention on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of the faith, who, in view of the joy set before him, endured the cross, disregarding its shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.


His reasons:


Heb 2:10 It was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through suffering as part of his plan to glorify many children,

Heb 2:11 because both the one who sanctifies and those who are being sanctified all have the same Father. That is why Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers

Heb 2:12 when he says, "I will announce your name to my brothers. I will praise you within the congregation."

Heb 2:13 And again, "I will trust him." And again, "I am here with the children God has given me."

Heb 2:14 Therefore, since the children have flesh and blood, he himself also shared the same things, so that by his death he might destroy the one who has the power of death (that is, the devil)

Heb 2:15 and might free those who were slaves all their lives because they were terrified by death.

Heb 2:16 For it is clear that he did not come to help angels. No, he came to help Abraham's descendants,

(seed of faith)

Heb 2:17 thereby becoming like his brothers in every way, so that he could be a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God and could atone for the people's sins.

Heb 2:18 Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.




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It doesn't matter if you never asked for that, however you do now. You need Jesus to have died for you & suffer for all your sins, otherwise you're not going to be saved.

Jehovah Witness? I don't get along with them, since I'm a vampire.

(Of course I'm not a vampire, but I tell them I'm one)

I'm expecting garlic next time I run into them.