Wordly music?
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I just saw someone put a blog and they said like how when they put rock music the birds got angry but when they put worship music they would sing. if you would like to know what in the world I am saying check this link out https://www.all-creatures.org/stories/a-aeulogy.html
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Hi Jack blessings....for me at this time in my life i enjoy music that feeds my spirit that lifts up God.....through the years at times i was into worldly music even a Christian well it was not a help for me to grow in the Lord; when the songs were contrary to God"s word and His will....i found myself thinking things at times that were fleshly and not honoring to God...yet all songs are not bad in and of themselves, God tells us to guard our hearts....remember that old song be careful little eyes what you see, be careful little ears what you hear for the Father up above is looking down in love...there was a time years ago i was in my 20's i used to roller skate 4-6 times a week hearing the worlds music sensual and fleshly i began to change in my thinking and before to long i found myself not thinking as much about the things of God and my heart was not being pure....then it came to a place in my years i knew for me God desires me to guard my heart to be pure of heart...love in Christ Sherril....
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As long as something isn't directly opposed to the gospel I would say it's worth consideration.
There are a lot of pieces of music that have no lyrics that are just that...music. Application and heart condition are the main factor IME.
It's amazing to me how many songs Christians have listened to in the churches growing up and even in college aged groups that they still aren't actually "listening" to the music. Like when someone starts belting out Queen and doesn't even hear themselves or consider what they are saying when they sing "Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me..."
Or the cool initial sound of angel is the centerfold. How many kids probably heard that growing up and had no idea what it was about and just sang along?
I could go through example after example. Not just songs I've heard but hearing others sing them. Even people that I consider to be pretty consistent followers of Christ. If I point it out they are usually like "oh, I see
" #songruined. But I typically don't because my first thought it to assume they know what they are doing. Second that maybe they have a natural protective barrier and since they don't know it's not sinful. Third usually...alas, perhaps I'll just encourage them to actually "hear" the lyrics.
I'm in no ways perfect and I've purposely not sung the lyrics that are particularly offensive as well as meditated on them to ponder whether they are really "that bad". I've also may have used them as a tool at times.
In any case, one gets tired of mainstream Christian music. If you don't kudos.
It's an interesting topic, definitely something to think about, to be more conscious about what we listen to and find joy in.
There are a lot of pieces of music that have no lyrics that are just that...music. Application and heart condition are the main factor IME.
It's amazing to me how many songs Christians have listened to in the churches growing up and even in college aged groups that they still aren't actually "listening" to the music. Like when someone starts belting out Queen and doesn't even hear themselves or consider what they are saying when they sing "Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me..."
Or the cool initial sound of angel is the centerfold. How many kids probably heard that growing up and had no idea what it was about and just sang along?
I could go through example after example. Not just songs I've heard but hearing others sing them. Even people that I consider to be pretty consistent followers of Christ. If I point it out they are usually like "oh, I see
" #songruined. But I typically don't because my first thought it to assume they know what they are doing. Second that maybe they have a natural protective barrier and since they don't know it's not sinful. Third usually...alas, perhaps I'll just encourage them to actually "hear" the lyrics.I'm in no ways perfect and I've purposely not sung the lyrics that are particularly offensive as well as meditated on them to ponder whether they are really "that bad". I've also may have used them as a tool at times.
In any case, one gets tired of mainstream Christian music. If you don't kudos.
It's an interesting topic, definitely something to think about, to be more conscious about what we listen to and find joy in.
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As long as something isn't directly opposed to the gospel I would say it's worth consideration.
Borrowed from https://www.christianforums.com/
It is undeniable that secular music had an important influence on hymn music. The entire genre of classical music (including opera & classical hymns) would not exist without the contribution of secular music. The old gospel hymns of the 19th Century and early 20th Century, owes much to the popular parlor ballad style of the day, often drawing on other influences such as marches, waltzes, and operetta. Even ragtime rhythms found their way into some old gospel hymn compositions, such as the 1914 hymn "Since Jesus Came Into My Heart".
Many hymn tunes have been borrowed from secular songs. This has been especially true of Salvation Army hymns and folk hymns. Some of the old gospel hymns and Sunday school songs also borrow secular tunes. It is also true that the hymn text "Love Divine, All Loves Excelling"" by Charles Wesley, was partially based on the lyrics of a secular operatic air "Fairest Isle" by John Dryden. (The Dryden song makes a reference to the pagan love goddess Venus).
However, very few of the secular melodies used are actually drinking tunes or "bar room songs". The only two examples I'm aware of were taken from music hall and changed into Salvation Army hymns. This includes the tune of "Champagne Charlie" which became Captain William Baugh's "Bless His Name, He Set Me Free" and "Here's To Good Old Whiskey" which was transformed into "Storm The Forts Of Darkness" (nor sure of the author). These two examples are apparently the exception to the rule. Most of the secular tunes used had nothing to do with drinking, and many of them had clean wholesome lyrics in the first place.
There is also a very large group of hymn tunes that were original and not borrowed from any previous source (however influenced in style by the secular). This is true for example, for most Fanny Crosby hymns. Additionally you have many hymns from British writers like Isaac Watts, that were written with no music at all. They simply composed the lyric of the hymn, and allowed others to chose their own melody that would fit the lyric. A lot of the text for these hymns were written in so called "ballad meter", which easily fit the melodies of secular ballads and other available songs
I could go through example after example. Not just songs I've heard but hearing others sing them. Even people that I consider to be pretty consistent followers of Christ. If I point it out they are usually like "oh, I see " #songruined. But I typically don't because my first thought it to assume they know what they are doing. Second that maybe they have a natural protective barrier and since they don't know
" #songruined. But I typically don't because my first thought it to assume they know what they are doing. Second that maybe they have a natural protective barrier and since they don't know
It is undeniable that secular music had an important influence on hymn music. The entire genre of classical music (including opera & classical hymns) would not exist without the contribution of secular music. The old gospel hymns of the 19th Century and early 20th Century, owes much to the popular parlor ballad style of the day, often drawing on other influences such as marches, waltzes, and operetta. Even ragtime rhythms found their way into some old gospel hymn compositions, such as the 1914 hymn "Since Jesus Came Into My Heart".
Many hymn tunes have been borrowed from secular songs. This has been especially true of Salvation Army hymns and folk hymns. Some of the old gospel hymns and Sunday school songs also borrow secular tunes. It is also true that the hymn text "Love Divine, All Loves Excelling"" by Charles Wesley, was partially based on the lyrics of a secular operatic air "Fairest Isle" by John Dryden. (The Dryden song makes a reference to the pagan love goddess Venus).
However, very few of the secular melodies used are actually drinking tunes or "bar room songs". The only two examples I'm aware of were taken from music hall and changed into Salvation Army hymns. This includes the tune of "Champagne Charlie" which became Captain William Baugh's "Bless His Name, He Set Me Free" and "Here's To Good Old Whiskey" which was transformed into "Storm The Forts Of Darkness" (nor sure of the author). These two examples are apparently the exception to the rule. Most of the secular tunes used had nothing to do with drinking, and many of them had clean wholesome lyrics in the first place.
There is also a very large group of hymn tunes that were original and not borrowed from any previous source (however influenced in style by the secular). This is true for example, for most Fanny Crosby hymns. Additionally you have many hymns from British writers like Isaac Watts, that were written with no music at all. They simply composed the lyric of the hymn, and allowed others to chose their own melody that would fit the lyric. A lot of the text for these hymns were written in so called "ballad meter", which easily fit the melodies of secular ballads and other available songs
I like listening to modern praise and worship music
I really like Michael Card songs
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Is he the guy who was playing the seven string guitar? I first discovered apologetics while offering moral support to a young man on youtube who was taking some flack from critics, even though he was really good. He was also on myspace, and it was while I spoke to him there also, when I noticed here were boards, and a Religion forum. That was twelve years ago! I was only three years into my Christian walk at that time. What an eye opening experience Here is the song:
I played guitar for quite a few years also
Here is the song:I played guitar for quite a few years also
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Is he the guy who was playing the seven string guitar? I first discovered apologetics while offering moral support to a young man on youtube who was taking some flack from critics, even though he was really good. He was also on myspace, and it was while I spoke to him there also, when I noticed here were boards, and a Religion forum. That was twelve years ago! I was only three years into my Christian walk at that time. What an eye opening experience Here is the song:
I played guitar for quite a few years also
Here is the song:I played guitar for quite a few years also
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I don't see how anyone can completely avoid listening secular music.
Even when some Christians are getting married, they will play love songs/romantic music.
But of course discretion should be used. Lewd music, devil worshiping music and songs that glorify violence/criminal activity should be avoided.
Even when some Christians are getting married, they will play love songs/romantic music.
But of course discretion should be used. Lewd music, devil worshiping music and songs that glorify violence/criminal activity should be avoided.