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eternally-gratefull

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Sorry I just want to say I believe -faith in Jesus that produces good works. This is what I believe. Yes there are good works needed with a real saving faith. But that's how I view the bible. According to James.

Hopefully your knee gets better soon:)
Yes

And SINCE it produced good works (True Faith) Works WILL be produced, Thus salvation can NEVER be lost.
 

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Adam and Eve were perfect. They did not need christ, they were righteous of their own works.. They neVER broke Gods law.

The moment they did, thats when they died.

And you think DC is a righteous pharisee??

What bible do you read?
WHAT! They never broke God's law!

Let that be a warning to avoid all OSAS people.
 
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WHAT! They never broke God's law!

Let that be a warning to avoid all OSAS people.
I say this with no negative insult....BUT....Your ignorance knows no bounds.........ADAM and EVE cannot BE COMPARED or USED as an example of ONE that LOST salvation.......THEY were NEVER saved to BEGIN WITH.........
 
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we can pray for each other
Lord Jesus, thank you for giving us the passion for the Word, and to defend grace, our over-active mind keep "desiring activity" believing that it's purposeful, but we need to know our limits, and humbly accept the wisdom of self-care. Help us remember that we are not trying to work for our salvation, as hard working as we may be, that we are just trying to stand up for what is right, and God is pleased at our desire to stand up for what's right, planting and watering here on CC, and help our mind "be ok with relative inactivity", "be at peace" and "sleep", and that persuasion is ultimately left to the Holy Spirit, may we trust that the Holy Spirit can "take it from here", because God gives the increase. I lay myself to sleep, I awoke for the Lord sustain me

In Jesus name we sleep
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I say this with no negative insult....BUT....Your ignorance knows no bounds.........ADAM and EVE cannot BE COMPARED or USED as an example of ONE that LOST salvation.......THEY were NEVER saved to BEGIN WITH.........
Adam and Eve are a warning to us all. Their God is my God

If you want to ignore O/T scripture and you ignore N/T warnings about apostacy, then plainly members of your cult are in dire peril.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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WHAT! They never broke God's law!

Let that be a warning to avoid all OSAS people.
Lol

1. You already broke Gods law, and have fallen far far short
2. You are already UNWORTHY of entering the garden of God
3. You already are hopless apart from Grace

Let that be a warning to YOU!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Adam and Eve are a warning to us all. Their God is my God

If you want to ignore O/T scripture and you ignore N/T warnings about apostacy, then plainly members of your cult are in dire peril.
No man has been in adam and eves position. Not you or I.

So you can not use PERFECT Adam and Eve to try to show. Anything other that that non of us are worthy of entering Gods garden either.

I pray one day you see this.
 
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Adam and Eve are a warning to us all. Their God is my God

If you want to ignore O/T scripture and you ignore N/T warnings about apostacy, then plainly members of your cult are in dire peril.
Not really...you peddle something the bible does not state....JESUS states....I knew KNEW YOU......you can make the claim all day long, but what you spew does not jive....end of story.......and the word is APOSTASY <----with an S not a C
 

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Not really...you peddle something the bible does not state....JESUS states....I knew KNEW YOU......you can make the claim all day long, but what you spew does not jive....end of story.......and the word is APOSTASY <----with an S not a C
Read the Bible.

Romans 11:20-22 - But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.

1 Timothy 1:18-20 - Timothy, my son, I give you this instruction in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by following them you may fight the good fight, holding on to faith and a good conscience. Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith. Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.

Hebrews 6:4-6 - It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

Hebrews 10:26-31 - If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God

2 Peter 2:20-22 - If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.

2 Peter 3:17 - Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.

Revelation 3:5 - He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.

Revelation 22:19 - And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

These scriptures indicate it is possible to loose your salvation but not because it is what God wants. It is always because people either didn't ever really believe or because they did and instead of continuing in Christ chose to be entrenched in sin instead.

In Rev it even talks about a man's name being blotted out of the Lambs book of Life, which means it had to be written in and then REMOVED.
 
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Read the Bible.

Romans 11:20-22 - But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.

Colossians 1:21-23 - Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation-if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.

1 Timothy 1:18-20 - Timothy, my son, I give you this instruction in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by following them you may fight the good fight, holding on to faith and a good conscience. Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith. Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.

Hebrews 6:4-6 - It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

Hebrews 10:26-31 - If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God

2 Peter 2:20-22 - If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.

2 Peter 3:17 - Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.

1 John 2:24 - See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.

Revelation 3:5 - He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.

Revelation 22:19 - And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

These scriptures indicate it is possible to loose your salvation but not because it is what God wants. It is always because people either didn't ever really believe or because they did and instead of continuing in Christ chose to be entrenched in sin instead.

In Rev it even talks about a man's name being blotted out of the Lambs book of Life, which means it had to be written in and then REMOVED.
I have....and studied through it 2 times a year in seminary x 4 years....and contextually it does NOT teach what you are selling like a Street Organ player in Bombay with a dancing MONKEY.....nor are you being contextually HONEST with the above CITED verses which do NOT teach the LOSS of SALVATION........
 
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WOOOHOOOO been up 24 hours straight....ALL night....still on AU schedule and was wide a wake all night......good morning COFFEE and PEEPS hahahahha
 

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WOOOHOOOO been up 24 hours straight....ALL night....still on AU schedule and was wide a wake all night......good morning COFFEE and PEEPS hahahahha
Good morning brother D...
I just want to tell you late last night I saw something you posted in another thread about Davids son who died , being a picture of Jesus , taking his sins through the death of his child , yet David lived , that was a gem for me , still pondering it...xox...
 

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WOOOHOOOO been up 24 hours straight....ALL night....still on AU schedule and was wide a wake all night......good morning COFFEE and PEEPS hahahahha
Well it is 7.30pm over here in Aus so you can go to bed and end the sleep drought. 😀
 
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Good morning brother D...
I just want to tell you late last night I saw something you posted in another thread about Davids son who died , being a picture of Jesus , taking his sins through the death of his child , yet David lived , that was a gem for me , still pondering it...xox...
A wonderful picture of JESUS.....remember the guy that cried...JESUS, thou son of David have mercy on me.......David should have perished under the law and YET the INNOCENT SON of DAVID took his place......WE should ALL perish under the LAW....yet the INNOCENT SON of DAVID took our place.....awesome TRUTH

and GOOD MORNING ROSE