Not By Works

DO YOU KNOW that the WORD BELIEVE, has a Different MEANING than the ENGLISH word BELIEVE?

IT MEANS ACKNOWLEDGING SOMETHING IS TRUE, TO THE POINT YOU ARE WILL TO PUT YOUR WHOLE WEIGHT UPON WHO YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE.

If you are not willing to put your WHOLE WEIGHT on JESUS, you are LYING WHEN you say you Believe.

OSAS TRUE BELIEVERS KNOW THAT, so you are spreading LIES about our BELIEFS.

NO - - - Apostates did not Truly Believe, because there so-called beliefs were LESS THAN JESUS MEANT BY:

John 16:31 (NIV)
31 "You believe at last!" Jesus answered.

They were at best, LIKE this form English word Believe:

James 2:19 (HCSB)
19 You believe that God is one; you do well. The demons also believe—and they shudder.

Therefore they Never had SAVING FAITH, just like the DEMONS.


Your LIES about OSAS that you have been taught, can cause a Babe in Christ to STUMBLE.

Matthew 18:6 (ASV)
6 But whoso shall cause one of these little ones that believe on me to stumble, it is profitable for him that a great millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depth of the sea.

I suggest that you learn from us, what we REALLY BELIEVE, because the person that taught you about OSAS beliefs, is peddling a UNTRUTH.

It is simple. People who belong to the OSAS brigade are saying it matters not, if a born again Christian, defects from the faith, or blasphemes God knowingly and deliberately, they will always be saved.

I do not think Christ will allow that. I do not think Jesus will say, "Well done my good and faithful servant."

Yep

Thats why the law failed. And hebrews wanted to go back to law. Thats why the author warned tham against that apostacy, Saying if they could fall away (like the law says) they can;t be renewed.

its not about losing alvation, its about returning to law. Which says you CAN Lose salvation.

Wrong

I am so sick clean of you people saying we say stuff we have never said

If you can not be honest. Do not expect people to believe anything you say

He agreed with Hebrews 6 that says

"if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace."

"There’s no way a real born again (saved by the grace of God) will again be born again. There is no such thing as born again and again and again."

And that still holds true for anyone who abandons the Saviour.

You say it is impossible to lose you salvation under any circumstances. That is simply not true.

Pretty cool, I agree with Hebrews 6, simply because it is the word of God but I disagree with the teaching of losing salvation in Hebrew 6.It only seems but there is no such things as born again and again and again.
Thanks

Amen

I am neither calvinist or arminian.

There are other scriptures Fred, I won't post them all but here is another. Perhaps the OSAS people ought to add a caveat?

"If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them."
2 Peter 2:20-22

YOU PPL GRIEVE THE FATHER ,THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT! BE A FOLLOWERS OF HIS WORDS FOR YOURSELVES, AND....STOP FOLLOWING THE BLIND OR YOU WILL ALL BE IN THE SAME DITCH! IF YOU NEED HELP FIDING GODS WAY ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT TO TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR LIVES AND ....YOU ....LET HIM! STOP PICKING AND CHOOSING WORDS TO SOOTHE YOUR OWN CONSCIENCES! 💖💖💖

Thank you Lord for saving my soul.

I thought you were going to stop posting stuff and just read posts to get to know people.

I do not read anything all caps anyway

It’s one thing to highlight a few words. It’s another to write a whole post. That’s called yelling.

You say it is impossible to lose you salvation under any circumstances. That is simply not true.

Just reciprocate what she said in the lose salvation thread?

Something along the lines of "I shake your dust of my feet you OSAS belivers"

I posted this a few pages back to UG.

And yet we find above.

Has he said that?

If so can you quote him?

Let them shake the dust

They have more things to worry about though