Things that need to be believed for salvation

Is salvation as simple as believing Jesus paid for your sins, that He's the Son of God, God Himself (the second Person of the Trinity), that He rose from the dead on the third day, and that He is Lord? Is there anything else someone needs to believe that anyone would include with these things?

John 6:40 - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

These many people (unbelievers) in Matthew 7:22 had the wrong foundation.

Well, you must be a oneness pentecostal trying to promote one must be water baptized to be saved. Now, you said this, "Why would Peter state that Cornelius and others, who had already received the Holy Ghost, needed to be water baptized if it was not a part of salvation?:"
"IF" as the text of Scripture clearly states and AS you say that "Cornelius and others, WHO HAD ALREADY RECEIVED THE HOLY GHOST,"

Here is my question? SINCE they had received the Holy Spirit "FIRST" and they were not water baptized are the believers saved or not saved if they did not get water baptized? My point is the fact that in life a person can still believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and yet are unable to be water baptized. So according to you would Jesus reject their confession of faith because they were unable to get water baptized.

And yes, I know what Peter said at Acts 2:38 but here in Acts 10:44-48 you have a model in which "appears" to contradict Acts 2:38. You also brought up Acts 11:14-16 and apparently you did not notice what vs14, "and he shall SPEAK WORDS to you by which you will be SAVED, you and all your household." Then at vs15, "And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them JUST AS HE DID UPON US AT THE BEGINNING." Vs16, "And I remembered the word of the Lord how He use to say, "John baptized with water but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit."

Again, saved first and then water baptized, that's the order. So, how do you reconcile what the Scriptures clearly teach with your oneness understanding which contradicts the scriptures? And what about the thief on the cross that repented for his deeds and Jesus told him that he would be in Paradise with Him? He (obviously) did not get water baptized? And please, spare me the lame excuse that the thief was in the old covenant so it don't count.

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

Is salvation as simple as believing Jesus paid for your sins, that He's the Son of God, God Himself (the second Person of the Trinity), that He rose from the dead on the third day, and that He is Lord? Is there anything else someone needs to believe that anyone would include with these things?

gets tricky when you try to create your own gospel

There is nothing tricky about the gospel as presented by the Apostle Paul at 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. So, if someone ask you what the gospel is and you quoted these verses I assume you would add to these words and tell them they must be water baptized as well huh?

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

Authentic Christianity promotes those who BELIEVE/PLACE FAITH IN Jesus Christ for salvation will be saved, just as the Bible teaches. (John 1:12; 3:15,16,18,36; 5:24, 6:40,47; 11:25,26; Acts 10:43; 11:17; 13:39; 16:31; Romans 3:22-28; 4:5; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:21; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8; Philippians 3:9; 2 Timothy 3:15; 1 John 5:13 etc..). The majority of "professing" Christianity (which includes false religions and cults that claim to be Christian) along with the majority of the world's population believes in "salvation by works."

There are few that find the strait gate because there will be few who genuinely place their faith (belief, trust, reliance) IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE FOR SALVATION.

Such people may believe "mental assent" in the existence and in historical facts about Jesus and that His death, burial and resurrection "happened," yet these many people who were "religious, but not right with God" did not believe/have faith in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ and His finished work of redemption as the ALL-sufficient means of their salvation. Instead, these many people trusted in works for salvation, as we see from Matthew 7:22.

John 6:40 - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

These many people (unbelievers) in Matthew 7:22 had the wrong foundation. They were trusting in their works to save them and NOT IN CHRIST ALONE. Jesus NEVER knew them which means they were NEVER saved. Their hearts were not right with God, so their attempted external obedience was stained with sin apart from the blood of Christ. *Seeking salvation by works is not the will of the Father.

John 17:3 - And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. The term "know" implies intimate, experiential knowledge, through a relationship with Him, not merely theoretical knowledge. These many people in Matthew 7:22 were not true converts.

Without faith it's impossible to please God (Hebrews 11:6) no matter how many alleged wonderful works that these many people set out to conjure up through the flesh in a vain effort to obtain salvation by works. This is why Jesus referred to them as "ye that work iniquity." Apart from the imputed righteousness which is of God by faith in Christ (Romans 4:5-6; Philippians 3:9) their sin remains.

Even the demons believe in who Jesus is and in James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God," but they do not believe/have faith in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ for salvation (and neither do works salvationists). In other words, they do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance is in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works. Those who do not truly believe trust in works for salvation. It's not enough to believe "mental assent" in Jesus and that His death, burial and resurrection "happened." In order to be saved, we must BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AND IN HIS DEATH, BURIAL AND RESURRECTION AS THE ALL-SUFFICIENT MEANS OF OUR SALVATION. (Romans 1:16; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)

Action which is produced "out of" faith and "follows" having been saved through faith is works and we are saved through faith, not works. (Ephesians 2:8,9) There is a difference between doing what Jesus says IN ORDER TO BECOME SAVED and doing what Jesus says AFTER WE HAVE BEEN SAVED THROUGH FAITH. Works-salvationists get this confused and the end result is salvation through faith (their version of faith) + works.

Those who teach the heretical doctrine of baptismal regeneration (lead by Roman Catholicism) are obsessed with Acts 2:38 and fail to properly harmonize scripture with scripture in order to reach the proper conclusion on doctrine and fail to see that faith in Jesus Christ "implied in genuine repentance" (rather than water baptism) brings the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit (Luke 24:47; Acts 2:38; 3:19; 5:31; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 15:8,9; 16:31; 26:18). *Perfect Harmony*

oh no. another one so busy trying to put everyone in their place he does not understand what I wrote


bluto bluted out the opposite. yah wanna meet outside for some fistacuffs?

It's all Good and I know I am very heated, emphatic and overbearing at times.....I am very zealous for the truth and proverbially I sometimes my mouth writes checks my butt can't cash.....I may totally disagree with your view, oppose it tooth and nail and with heat and sarcasm, but that does not mean i am mad, hate you or have an inability to understand what you are saying.....

I do apologize for offending you in the way I have ripped into you over what you believe

you are wrong bluto

I was agreeing with the bolded part of your post where I responded

these days I am asking for apologies

but not holding my breath

you basically shot yourself in the tootsie

you are wrong bluto

I was agreeing with the bolded part of your post where I responded

these days I am asking for apologies

but not holding my breath

you basically shot yourself in the tootsie

It is clear that one's foundation is definitely key to Jesus' rejection of the people seen in the 24th verse of the referenced scripture. However, nothing those questioning Jesus' rejection said had anything to do with obedience to the necessary foundational components outlined for all in Acts; belief, repentance, water baptism or receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Prophesying, casting out devils and doing many wonderful works are things one does to draw others to Jesus, they are not part of laying the foundation.

Matt 7:22-24
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:"

The obedience that is necessary is choosing to place belief in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ for salvation "implied in genuine repentance" (rather than water baptism) which brings the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38; 3:19; 5:31; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 15:8,9; 16:31; 26:18). Receiving water baptism (in Jesus name only) in order to obtain the remission of sins (dipped or condemned) with the evidence of speaking in tongues (no tongues, no Holy Spirit) may be the necessary foundational components of the perverted gospel of the Oneness Pentecostal church, but are not necessary components for salvation outlined for all in the book of Acts.

1 Corinthians 3:11 - For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF IS THE FOUNDATION AND NOT WATER BAPTISM, SPEAKING IN TONGUES OR WORKS IN GENERAL. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; (of reward) but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

I see that everything I explained to you in post #40 just went right over your head.

As we read on in Matthew 7:24-27, we find two different foundations with two different results, and not salvation by works through your components. Each house has a different material upon which its foundation is laid, and each house has a different final outcome. One house is built by a wise man upon a rock and it stands. The other is built by a foolish man upon the sand and it collapses.

Those deceived by their own self-righteousness in Matthew 7:22-23 were "outwardly" setting out to do things that the righteous would do yet they did not truly know Christ (had no personal relationship with Christ) which stemmed from not truly believing in Him. The rock the wise man builds upon is true righteousness found in Jesus Christ alone as evidenced by authentic Christianity. The sand the foolish man builds upon is self-righteousness as evidenced by false religions and cults.

*Only those who truly believe in Christ are wise and hear the words of Jesus and properly act on them. *The foolish man twists the words of Jesus, perverts the gospel and acts on their own self-righteous works system and confuses that with properly hearing and doing/acting on the words of Jesus.

Misconceptions arise when one does not actually pay attention to what scriptures say: Jesus said whoever hears MY sayings and does them is the wise person. AND, whoever hears MY sayings and does not do them is foolish.

Matt 7:24-27
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

You act as if we say otherwise. That’s your problem. You do not know what we think.