Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

Jesus Christ explicitly says the priests in the temple profane/desecrate/break the sabbath without guilt. moreover, that this is found in the law itself.

To argue that Jesus was renouncing the validity of the Sabbath in Matthew 12:3-7 is to, at the same time, side with the Jews who were accusing Him of doing exactly that and thus vindicate their accusations against Him. What His disciples were breaking were the additional laws placed on the Sabbath, not the Sabbath itself. This was made explicit when Jesus said "It is lawful to do well on the Sabbath days."

Nevertheless, the position of objective moral values remains.

Thank you for your response! I believe that Jesus was dismissing the concept of keeping the law out of obligation, but rather, because one wants to out of love.

Difference is Elijah knew what he was doing. The failure was on the part of Israel as I have said in other posts.

Jesus didn`t fail, Israel did.

You weren`t mean at all just ignorant. Jesus won`t come back until Israel is ready for Him.

Yes, I believe he does!

Matthew 7: 12. All those things, then, which you would have men do to you, even so do you to them: because this is the law and the prophets.

Did Jesus do this? Yes, to the highest degree possible! Because he was in the form of God, and he emptied himself and became a servant for us.

I don't think that the law has expired, I think that it has been fulfilled
Galatians 5: 14. For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

So no, we don't marry our dead brother's wife. But we do want to be aware of the vulnerable in our society, as a widow was vulnerable in ancient Israel.

If you mean keeping the spirit of the law out of love for God, then yes I say Amen.

If you mean keep the letter of the law, for example don't eat pork, then we would differ on that part.

Speaking on the law of Moses

Luke 16:14 And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.

Luke 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

I am not understanding how that fulfills a prophet.

this isn't about what His disciples were doing, but about what the priests do according to the law -- not outside of the law, but according to the commandments themselves -- and also about what David & his men did, how that it was clearly contrary to the law and the law would condemn them, without question, but they were innocent. again, the proscription against eating shewbread is not a 'tradition' added by men. it's a clear, explicit commandment in the law itself.

if you use the 'quote' function i'll be alerted that you've responded to me. either hit 'reply' or highlight a part of a post and a 'reply' button appears, that puts what you're responding to in the box for you to make a new post with.

I didn't know about this feature, I think this will be very handy sometimes!

Not a particular prophet, the prophets as a group.

The prophets taught things. There was a central goal to their teaching. What is that Central goal?
Matthew 7: 12. Therefore whatever you desire for men to do to you, you shall also do to them; for this is the law and the prophets.

I don't obey the law, I obey a Person.

I can tell you I am learning a bunch of new stuff. Thanks be to God and to all here. AND I am really having my wisdom and knowledge refined to a smooth well argued out understanding.

I think God wrote the bible as He did for the very reason we see here. Flesh men, even walking after the spirit, need to have controversy to stay involved. Could you imagine how quickly the Bible would be set down if we all agreed?? Just the discussion keeps us close to the Lord. And He gives us all different gifts. If that doesn't ensure different directions I don't know what does. And look at how much of the Word we learn that we never would have. Something so important that I see or you see that we never saw. I have had a lot of that to.

One thing I wish is that "revelations" were" acknowledged more often". Those have been THE biggest blessings of my life. As long as I am learning new truths I know God is still with me. I always go back to the "talents" and How He is looking for us to make more with what He gives us and not just hold on tight to the little bit we received in the beginning of our walk.

Yes, we are Definitely blessed and maybe a TINY bit cursed to have so many with a love for the Word all brought together to sort out the wisdom and knowledge. But think, no matter how wrong we may be right now, it will all be set right. Do you remember the first time God ever came and took you away? Of course you do. If someone were to ask me what was the best day of my entire life, that one wins hands down. I had been studying for a really long time, I had tons of knowledge, but it wasn't until that day that God took it all, set it all straight and gave me a sliver of His wisdom. It was like a deck of cards when you shuffle them and then you bridge them together to make a perfect little stack of cards. To this day I don't know how long it took. Could have been a milli second or an hour I have no clue. I just know it opened my eyes to why the "study and seeking is ever so important. We take that with us.

Now I have forgotten the point. But I say thank you for the post and the sharing. I say as long as we are growing in knowledge we are doing well. It is when we are not, (my biggest fear) we are to worry. So the debate is good. The only thing that would be better would be if we all "wrote" with our fingers on the back button a bit more. I do worry about those who come seeking and they see us, professing to be "Christian" treating each other like heathens would, no better, no sign of the spirit within us leading us to a "higher" peculiar type attitude. I am at fault myself, a little better, not much, but I really do try and I feel I am improving. Just want to make God happy when He sees me. ( You would not believe how much I want to write in capital letters, and many times do only to hit the back button and write it all again because I have been told it doesn't come off well).

So once again thank you.

That`s one the smoothest ducks on a question I ever seen.

Here's some more reasons why I think details could really help on this thread.

I know a nice man who was raised Jewish and is now a Methodist pastor. He sometimes wears a yamaka, and he has talked about eating Hebrew national hot dogs.

That he was ordained as a Methodist pastor tells me that he has given at least verbal assent to the basic theologies of the Methodist Church.

The yamaka and the hot dogs lead me to believe that he likes to keep Jewish traditions.

But there's yet another detail, he also told me that when he orders bacon at a restaurant, he tells them to put it in the deep fryer so it will be extra crispy.

That he likes crispy bacon tells me that he doesn't keep the law, at least not the letter of it.

So just a few details provides lots of information. (And I'm happy to talk about my details, it just doesn't seem polite to go on about oneself if one hasn't been asked.)

Think of all the hundreds of posts on this thread that could have been saved if people who talk about keeping the law would also talk about details like ordering bacon at a restaurant!

like your dodge on the Sabbath question?

Ok, so add details. I got attacked so early and so consistently since that I`ve never been able to discuss what I think about law keeping. I`ve been too busy trying to convince people that God`s law deserves some respect and consideration