Jesus spent time with sinners

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morefaithrequired

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with tax collectors and prostitutes.
But can we substitute modern day sinners?
Even over the top sinners like pedophiles, human traffickers and serial killers?
I guess if they were repentant but still.......
a repentant Stalin?
So Jesus spent time with lepers. Isnt that a symbol of society's rejects? Jesus would be happier to spend time with those in jail than the rest of us? As long as they have discovered true humility I imagine.
I just wonder if those that society scorns the most now are looked on more favourably by God.
 
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Absolutely!
He came to bring light to those that sit in dark places!
Those that think themselves NOT sick in sin,will not seek the great physicisn,the healer of our soulsl
if we refuse Him,the hungry,the sick,the dregs of society will TAKE OUR PLACE!
 
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So what about the most scorned on a Christian Internet forum? 😁
 
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In A fascinating way with our Head, Christ, in heaven we are His physical body in this world. Kind of a proof of His Ressurection. Think of how secure He is as God to leave us as His visible Body in the world. .Amazing how He humbles Himself.
 
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morefaithrequired said:
with tax collectors and prostitutes.
But can we substitute modern day sinners?
Even over the top sinners like pedophiles, human traffickers and serial killers?
I guess if they were repentant but still.......
a repentant Stalin?
So Jesus spent time with lepers. Isnt that a symbol of society's rejects? Jesus would be happier to spend time with those in jail than the rest of us? As long as they have discovered true humility I imagine.
I just wonder if those that society scorns the most now are looked on more favourably by God.
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Anyone Jesus came into contact was a sinner ... we are all sinners

And when He spent time with sinners ... He brought both Truth and Love.
 
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God is no respecter of persons. Wihout faith it is impossible to please God.
 
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UnderGrace said:
Anyone Jesus came into contact was a sinner ... we are all sinners
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yes of course. but why was special mention in the Bible made of prostitutes and tax collectors?
 
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morefaithrequired said:
wow. I never heard of that before
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Body Of Christ - The Definition. The Body of Christ is a common, yet complex term used in the Christian faith. Some may initially think we are talking about the physical body of Christ, as in His human form on earth. But the term "Body of Christ" actually refers to the members of His church, throughout history.

If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 1 Corinthians 12:26-27
 
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morefaithrequired said:
yes of course. but why was special mention in the Bible made of prostitutes and tax collectors?
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Do you mean this verse?
"Which of the two did what his father wanted?" "The first," they answered. Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.
Matthew 21:31
 
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UnderGrace said:
Do you mean this verse?
"Which of the two did what his father wanted?" "The first," they answered. Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.
Matthew 21:31
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I cant remember. Are there any others?
 
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Take your time :) He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
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And there I was thinking that at least I wasn't as bad as Ivan the Terrible. :)
 
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morefaithrequired said:
And there I was thinking that at least I wasn't as bad as Ivan the Terrible. :)
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Surely you are not? I did want to commend you for your sense of humor.
No doubt it has served you well in the trials you have had to face throughout your life :)
 
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There are other references.
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NIV NT use of the word "prostitute."

Matthew 21:31
“Which of the two did what his father wanted?” “The first,” they answered. Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.

Matthew 21:32
For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.

Luke 15:30
But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!’

1 Corinthians 6:15
Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never!

1 Corinthians 6:16
Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”

Hebrews 11:31
By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.

James 2:25
In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction?

Revelation 17:1
[ Babylon, the Prostitute on the Beast ] One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters.

Revelation 17:5
The name written on her forehead was a mystery: babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth.

Revelation 17:15
Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.

Revelation 17:16
The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

Revelation 19:2
for true and just are his judgments. He has condemned the great prostitute who corrupted the earth by her adulteries. He has avenged on her the blood of his servants.”

Apparently, neither of the gospels of Mark nor John make mention of them.
 
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NIV NT use of "Tax collector."

Matthew 5:46
If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?

Matthew 9:9
[ The Calling of Matthew ] As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector’s booth. “Follow me,” he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.

Matthew 9:10
While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples.

Matthew 9:11
When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

Matthew 10:3
Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus;

Matthew 11:19
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ But wisdom is proved right by her deeds.”

Matthew 17:24
[ The Temple Tax ] After Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the two-drachma temple tax came to Peter and asked, “Doesn’t your teacher pay the temple tax?”

Matthew 18:17
If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

Matthew 21:31
“Which of the two did what his father wanted?” “The first,” they answered. Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.

Matthew 21:32
For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.

Mark 2:14
As he walked along, he saw Levi son of Alphaeus sitting at the tax collector’s booth. “Follow me,” Jesus told him, and Levi got up and followed him.

Mark 2:15
While Jesus was having dinner at Levi’s house, many tax collectors and sinners were eating with him and his disciples, for there were many who followed him.

Mark 2:16
When the teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw him eating with the sinners and tax collectors, they asked his disciples: “Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

Luke 3:12
Even tax collectors came to be baptized. “Teacher,” they asked, “what should we do?”

Luke 5:27
[ Jesus Calls Levi and Eats With Sinners ] After this, Jesus went out and saw a tax collector by the name of Levi sitting at his tax booth. “Follow me,” Jesus said to him,

Luke 5:29
Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them.

Luke 5:30
But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, “Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?”

Luke 7:29
(All the people, even the tax collectors, when they heard Jesus’ words, acknowledged that God’s way was right, because they had been baptized by John.

Luke 7:34
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’

Luke 15:1
[ The Parable of the Lost Sheep ] Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus.

Luke 18:9
[ The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector ] To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable:

Luke 18:10
“Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.

Luke 18:11
The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector.

Luke 18:13
“But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

Luke 19:1
[ Zacchaeus the Tax Collector ] Jesus entered Jericho and was passing through.

Luke 19:2
A man was there by the name of Zacchaeus; he was a chief tax collector and was wealthy.

Again, no mention in the gospel of John :)
 
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