I wonder how these two verses will play out with Christadelphians and Jehovah's Witnesses?

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iymus

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so My word that proceeds from My mouth will not return to Me empty,
but it will accomplish what I please, and it will prosper where I send it.
(Isaiah 55:11)
yes righteous servant of The Lord shall bear iniquities of the repentant.

Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
 

iymus

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"I will feed My flock, and I will make them lie down,”
says the LORD God.
(Ezekiel 34:15)
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
(Psalm 23:1)
I AM The Good Shepherd.
The Good Shepherd gives His life for the sheep.
(John 10:11)
This is My name forever
(Exodus 3:15)
Jesus is something pretty special ;)
"singular" you might say



Joh 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
Joh 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

And The Father is good shepherd of Christ and sent him to be Passover lamb. The good shepherd of Christ is God.

Joh 4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

Joh 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
 

TheLearner

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There is an Originator of Spirits. A Father is an originator. For example Father of modern medicine, etc. I never mentioned anything about a mother God. your reply is a mute point. nothing that can be worked with.

Jesus is the originator of all things including our spirits.

Col 1:15-18
 

TheLearner

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Hebrews 1 Evangelical Heritage Version (EHV)
God Speaks to Us By His Son
1 In the past, God spoke to our forefathers by the prophets at many times and in many ways. 2 In these last days, he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact imprint of the divine nature. He sustains all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins,[a] he took his seat at the right hand of the Majesty on high.

The Son Is Superior to the Angels

4 The Son became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs. 5 For to which of the angels did God ever say:

You are my Son. Today I have begotten you?

And again:

I will be his Father, and he will be my Son.[c]

6 And again, when he brought his firstborn into the world, he said:

Let all God’s angels worship him.[d]

7 About the angels he says:

He makes his messengers winds and his ministers flaming fire.[e]

8 But about the Son he says:

God, your throne is forever and ever,
and the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness.
Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of joy
beyond your companions.[f]

10 And he says:

In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth,
and the heavens are the works of your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain.
They will all become old like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe,
and they will be changed like a garment.[g]
But you are the same,
and your years will never end.[h]

13 To which of the angels has he ever said:

Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool under your feet?

14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent out to serve for the benefit of those who are going to inherit salvation?
 

TheLearner

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Immanuel: with us is God!

Colossians 2:9-10
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
 

TheLearner

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Romans 16:20 J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS)
19-20 Your loyalty to the principles of the Gospel is known everywhere, and that gives me great joy. I want to see you experts in good, and not even beginners in evil. It will not be long before the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."

I wonder how these two verses will play out with Christadelphians and Jehovah's Witnesses?
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.

20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

21 Timotheus my workfellow, and Lucius, and Jason, and Sosipater, my kinsmen, salute you.

22 I Tertius, who wrote this epistle, salute you in the Lord.

23 Gaius mine host, and of the whole church, saluteth you. Erastus the chamberlain of the city saluteth you, and Quartus a brother.

24 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

25 Now to him that is of power to establish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
 

posthuman

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Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I AM!
Then took they up stones to cast at Him: but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
(John 8:58-59)