Why there is no faith and power in Jesus here

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Why do people have hardened hearts and are blind to seeing nothing but themselves, maximally their families and the people who return it to them?

It's all a devil's job and people love to give in to it. In the beginning after Christ's performance, his disciples were completely different. They were married people who, in addition to the Holy Spirit, deep in their being, also had experience of family life and bringing up children. Catholic priests who think that only they are true can criticize that we too care for young people in monasteries and parishes, but in marriage the devil uses quite different tactics and spiritual bite. Thus, there is only an abyss and misunderstanding between priests and parishioners. Simply they are missing a practical experience. As Saint Paul said, whoever has no need to have a wife, let him not have it, and whoever needs a woman and cannot help himself, marry her. But tell me that in this fornication, bad time, how many of the priests have no need to have a wife. Then we just read about the various deviations in the church and it disturbs them terribly and they cannot fully focus on God's word.

I greatly honor and read about some of the Catholic saints, because they had a real experience of fighting the devil, they were very bitten and could do literally God's miracles for us. But I have to reproach them that they did not seek help and understanding from our leader Jesus Christ, who is a high priest, but confessed and consulted everything, only with the spiritual human fathers as they called them. Yet we know that the only father is the heavenly father, the only teacher is the heavenly father, and the leader is Jesus Christ. This mistake is also made by Messianic Jews, who proudly call themselves teachers and leaders.

I think we need to fix ourselves directly on the trinity of God and thank the angels for their generous activity depending on their and our father, and after being written yoke is delicious and the burden is light. Why pull a yoke with various human teachers and fathers who are burdened with mistakes and sins and then get mixed up in the mud. Jesus cast out demons and cured with God's finger and word and not human imaginary aids, again burdened with mistakes and sins. These are various relics, crises, statuettes, holy waters, etc. There is more than enough, and then in God's faith cracks of infidelity arise. As anyone can cast out the devil or heal through the holy martyrs, science is an insult to Jesus and our imperfection. Yet he told us that whatever we ask from his father on his behalf, the father will give us that. There are also great misconceptions about the question of Virgin Mary, Jesus' mother. It is written in the Bible that all generations will bless her, she is one virtuous woman worthy of respect and praise, and she damaged a devil’s head, but why Catholics so devote her and pray to her. You must ask the heavenly father in the Jesuit name, as written. From Mary and the saints, one must take an example in the fight against the devil and their virtuous life, not to pray to them.

I also wonder why some of the saints, I read from the Catholic book again, sought to connect Jesus with them in pain and not in love. The love is the most powerful weapon against the devil and not suffering. They just recorded it to the devil.

Why laymen and non catholic preachers are called sectarians and must enter into monasteries and priests for their ecclesiastical nobility to receive. It is not only a priest or a religious who is holy, but every person who is full of the orders of Jesus Christ and who lives a pure life. Read the Bible about the first church associations and their members, that the devil keeps concealing and the church goes awfully to him.

So please open your eyes and hearts and follow our Lord Jesus Christ.
 

dodgingstones

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2 much on Catholics 4 me, but to each his own I suppose.

When you say " here ", you mean the Earth...right? Not here on CC?
 
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to put it bluntly, you wont find answers within an organised religion, particularly the catholic church. I just spent three weeks holidays with a household of catholics and went to some of there church services. I'm sorry I did, the Holy Spirit was nowhere to be seen, there were prayers to Mary and Joseph, pomp and ceremony, no real teachings, false advice to a broken family. Jesus is the head of the church, no one else. You wont find answers from the mouth of mankind, satan has his agenda and takes advantage of organised religion.
 

3angelsmsg

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KJV John 15
12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

If you have come to this point in full measure, we are fitted for heaven. Then God had accomplished in us what is necessary to gain heaven. If we love like Jesus
 

Adstar

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Why do arrogant people come into this forum and unjustly judge everyone in here to have no Faith?

Do these people think they are All Knowing and know without doubt that so one on Christian chat has Faith in the LORD Jesus Christ ? to declare everyone on the forum on the way to hell?

Now i know without doubt there are a lot of people in here with Faith.. Varying levels of Faith true.. But people do have Faith in this forum of that i have no doubt..

So woe to anyone who judges the brethren and delivers false allegations against them,, like declaring that none of them have Faith..

Some people need a bit more fear of God in them to cause them to have a measure of caution before they go about throwing unfounded accusations against everyone in the room..
 

Adstar

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to put it bluntly, you wont find answers within an organised religion, particularly the catholic church. I just spent three weeks holidays with a household of catholics and went to some of there church services. I'm sorry I did, the Holy Spirit was nowhere to be seen, there were prayers to Mary and Joseph, pomp and ceremony, no real teachings, false advice to a broken family. Jesus is the head of the church, no one else. You wont find answers from the mouth of mankind, satan has his agenda and takes advantage of organised religion.
Well as an Ex catholic i fully agree with your assesment of the catholic church..
 

DesertWanderer

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I would have to draw the conclusion, from what is written in the original post, that this is a treatise on what is amiss with the Catholic church.
Why do people have hardened hearts and are blind to seeing nothing but themselves, maximally their families and the people who return it to them?
Unfortunately, that is just the way it is. We live in a fallen world:

Then the Lord God said, Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever— therefore the Lord God sent him out from the garden of Eden to work the ground from which he was taken. He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life. Gen. 3: 22-24

ut tell me that in this fornication, bad time, how many of the priests have no need to have a wife. Then we just read about the various deviations in the church and it disturbs them terribly and they cannot fully focus on God's word.
It sounds to me that you are making a case here for Catholic priests to be permitted to take a wife. Many of us on this forum would agree with that argument.

Yet we know that the only father is the heavenly father, the only teacher is the heavenly father, and the leader is Jesus Christ. This mistake is also made by Messianic Jews, who proudly call themselves teachers and leaders.
Correct me if I am wrong, but you are making a case here for refraining from the practice of addressing a Catholic priest as "father." Again, I believe you would have a strong consensus agreement within the Christian Chat community.

I think we need to fix ourselves directly on the trinity of God and thank the angels for their generous activity depending on their and our father, and after being written yoke is delicious and the burden is light
I think instead of addressing the angels or the saints directly, we should pray to the Father in the name of Jesus:

For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 1 Tim. 2:5

Why pull a yoke with various human teachers and fathers who are burdened with mistakes and sins and then get mixed up in the mud.
We need teachers here on earth to help disciple us. For that reason, I am heartbroken over the current trend of our beloved pastors transitioning into mere CEOs and celebrities. I could write a book on that one subject.

There are also great misconceptions about the question of Virgin Mary, Jesus' mother. It is written in the Bible that all generations will bless her, she is one virtuous woman worthy of respect and praise, and she damaged a devil’s head, but why Catholics so devote her and pray to her. You must ask the heavenly father in the Jesuit name, as written. From Mary and the saints, one must take an example in the fight against the devil and their virtuous life, not to pray to them.
It is refreshing to note that the official position of the Roman Catholic Church is a mandate to pray only to God. Unfortunately, some of the traditional Catholic prayers, such as the Memorare and Hail Holy Queen, ignore this edict. In the interest of saving forum space, I would direct you to google to see for yourself.

I also wonder why some of the saints, I read from the Catholic book again, sought to connect Jesus with them in pain and not in love. The love is the most powerful weapon against the devil and not suffering. They just recorded it to the devil.
I'm not sure, but I think you are alluding to the fact that the Apostle Paul (and others) were suffering in the name of Christ. This is a hard thing for modern Christians to grasp. After all, aren't we now God's children, since we have given over our lives to Christ? Isn't he supposed to bless us? The simple answer is, just because we are Christians, our life circumstances could still be very difficult. It is not a forgone conclusion that we will have it easy just because Jesus saved us from eternal damnation. In fact, we can expect a certain level of persecution for our faith-- maybe not as much as the apostles. Still, we have to recognize we are no longer living for the here and now, but for eternity. When we are able to walk with Christ in grace, mercy, and love, and still endure suffering here on earth, great is our reward in heaven.

Why laymen and non catholic preachers are called sectarians and must enter into monasteries and priests for their ecclesiastical nobility to receive. It is not only a priest or a religious who is holy, but every person who is full of the orders of Jesus Christ and who lives a pure life. Read the Bible about the first church associations and their members, that the devil keeps concealing and the church goes awfully to him.

So please open your eyes and hearts and follow our Lord Jesus Christ.
The conclusion to your post is an interesting one. The bible is very clear on this subject:

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Rom. 3:23

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord Rom. 6:23

That if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Rom. 10: 9-11

I believe that those who have confessed with their mouth that Jesus is Lord-- including those on this forum-- are truly saved. I think now is the time to reach out in faith to those who have not. Are you with me on that commitment?
 

oyster67

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The RCC has done a terrible and grievous job of mangling the heads of countless millions. Let us pray together for a great healing to take place.
 

Nehemiah6

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Why pull a yoke with various human teachers and fathers who are burdened with mistakes and sins and then get mixed up in the mud.
What I am gathering from this post is that you are not too happy about the way the Catholic Church practices Christianity. But as you probably know the Reformation did not reform the RCC, and the Reformers had to break away from it. Neither will you or anyone else reform this church which has departed from Bible truth and gospel truth.

If you are a member of the RCC, you will have to walk away from this church and find a Bible-believing Gospel-preaching church.