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Chris1975 said:
Hebrews 5v9
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Do you interpret Hebrews 5:9 to mean that we maintain our salvation through righteous living? So where do you draw the line in the sand and say that you were living righteously enough, so now the Lord will be able to save you? Did you read post #121,378?
 
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dcontroversal said:
These clowns can do nothing but conflate, misdirect, misquote, embellish, falsely accuse, twist, used deception, deceit, PREVARICATE, distort, mislead, concoct, skew and deny truth..........it is rather disturbing and sickening how they devalue JESUS, the truth, his power, his promises and drag his sacrifice through the stinking mud of self works and self glory.........
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Prevaricate... nice, I like it a lot.. a new word for me! :)

verb
  1. speak or act in an evasive way.
    "he seemed to prevaricate when journalists asked pointed questions"
 
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EleventhHour said:
Prevaricate... nice, I like it a lot.. a new word for me! :)

verb
  1. speak or act in an evasive way.
    "he seemed to prevaricate when journalists asked pointed questions"
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I knew you would like it.....HAHAH I love words.....especially GREEK WORDS in the PERFECT TENSE....or AORIST TENSE.......proves these salvation losing clowns wrong
 
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I would like to interject and NOTE for the salvation losers that say sin affects salvation...

THE Corinthian ASSEMBLY, Identified as saved believers and a N.T. Church had SOME 15 errors...INCLUDING Fornication, A corruption of the Lord's SUPPER, SEXUAL Immorality and YET they are called SAVED and identified as a N.T. Church.....

THEY are also called CARNAL and IMMATURE.....

WAKE UP........YOU are DEVALUING JESUS and HIS BLOOD and your INSOLENCE will be met with the FURY of the LAMB!
 
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PennEd said:
This is the point that our works for salvation friends can never seem to understand.

Replace the word saved or salvation with born (again).

Once you are born (again), you cannot become unborn.
That’s why it’s so important to pin these guys down by asking them if they are a born again child of God, and if they believe they are, how can they ever believe their Father would toss them into the Lake of Fire!!!
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AMEN PENN....BORN again FROM ABOVE <---and that SPIRIT is SAVED, SEALED, JUSTIFIED and POSITIONALLY SANCTIFIED in CHRIST and DOES NOT SIN.......
 
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mailmandan said:
Do you interpret Hebrews 5:9 to mean that we maintain our salvation through righteous living? So where do you draw the line in the sand and say that you were living righteously enough, so now the Lord will be able to save you? Did you read post #121,378?
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Oh yes the all elusive line in the sand:unsure:
I'll be waiting on an answer.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Woah @dcontroversal sure has a way of scaring away all the bad news bears... they all ran and hid!!:D
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All the sinners among my people will die by the sword, all those who say, "Disaster will not overtake or meet us." - God

Like the Holy Spirit through Paul said, quoting from His own work: "Expel the wicked man from among you."

Deny your soul, take up your cross. Not options. The sons of God are those who are being led by the Spirit of God. Narrow gate, difficult way. I could wish I had your easy one.
 
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All the sinners among my people will die by the sword, all those who say, "Disaster will not overtake or meet us." - God

Like the Holy Spirit through Paul said, quoting from His own work: "Expel the wicked man from among you."

Deny your soul, take up your cross. Not options. The sons of God are those who are being led by the Spirit of God. Narrow gate, difficult way. I could wish I had your easy one.
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I agree, from reading the posts of many on this thread ...it is indeed difficult to enter through the narrow gate...that darn ole self righteousness just keeps getting in the way.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Woah @dcontroversal sure has a way of scaring away all the bad news bears... they all ran and hid!!:D
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I get sick of their stance against JESUS, grace, the truth, his power, his promises, his sacrifice, his blood, his work on our behalf...I hate false religion and those that peddle it I despise*.......

* Disclaimer......I do not hate them, and do pray for all of those bound up in false religions, but I absolutely despise what they peddle and proclaim because it devalues MY LORD and SAVIOR
 
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RebuildJesussChurch said:
All the sinners among my people will die by the sword, all those who say, "Disaster will not overtake or meet us." - God

Like the Holy Spirit through Paul said, quoting from His own work: "Expel the wicked man from among you."

Deny your soul, take up your cross. Not options. The sons of God are those who are being led by the Spirit of God. Narrow gate, difficult way. I could wish I had your easy one.
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The reason YOU DON'T is because YOU refuse to take HIS YOKE upon you and LEARN of HIM.....HIS WAY IS EASY and HIS BURDEN IS LIGHT and YOU willingly remove yourself from the SIMPLICITY found in CHRIST pal!

WAKE up MAN
 
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mailmandan said:
Do you interpret Hebrews 5:9 to mean that we maintain our salvation through righteous living? So where do you draw the line in the sand and say that you were living righteously enough, so now the Lord will be able to save you? Did you read post #121,378?
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Hebrews 5
9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,

-This scripture means EXACTLY what it says. No filter necessary through erroneous paradigms.
-obedience is after first belief. Obedience is ongoing.
-Why do you call me Lord, Lord, and not DO what I say?
-2Thess2v13 But we are [f]bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,
 
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