That Hebrews 10v26 Thread

Mmd is in effect saying, "'sanctified' can't mean a saved person in that passage because my doctrine says it can't be talking about a saved person."

mmd, that's called an indoctrination. You are indoctrinated in every negative sense of the word.

You did bring up one legitimate point in one of your posts. I'll address it when I'm back on line. Hope you stick around for it.

In case anybody hasn't realised it yet there is one common theme throughout the entire Bible. And that is SIN.

God calls a people to worship Him in Spirit and TRUTH. And this is not possible with sin separating man from God.

We are in need of. A Saviour, who not only paid the penalty for our past sins, but SAVES us from our sinning. For this reason He was manifested to DESTROY the works of the devil.

Those who read this and don't have the same heart are NOT HIS.

I don't care what you think of me personally. I don't care if you throw mud at me. I don't care if I am a minority opinion. I just care about you.

Of course, because he cannot come to grips with the fact that salvation is secure and poor Bible hermeneutics is the only way to make that happen.

Wattie, Amen!!!

Clear for anyone who has eyes to see!!

Some people really do not want the Good News....that much is evident by the first post and poor biblical interpretation.

Blessings to you for defending the Gospel!!

So finally we know what your wrong theology is based on... this is laughable but a very prevalent teaching .... come to the Not By Works thread and make this assertion.


All sin was dealt with at the cross ... you need better understanding of time and eternity.

One problem is believers who think other believers cannot come to faith and then go back to the world.

1 Cor 6:9-10
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Cor 5:11
But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

The gospel is about God telling us He is willing to deal with us as friends, as people blessed by Him.

John 15:14-15
You are my friends if you do what I command.
I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.

Now to be given this great privilege, the highest and greatest gift in all creation and to reject it outright, would be ignored by God is absurd. The root problem is unbelief in knowing the power of the gift, the depth of the love involved, and the freedom to overcome sin we now have.

1 John 3:8-9
He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work.
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.

Foolishly some think they know Gods word, and when you speak forth its truths, but not in verse and reference, they call it heresy, not knowing this is Gods revelation bearing fruit in a believer.

The spirit in this world is powerful in the imagination of some people, not knowing the enemy sows these views and ideas to fight and oppose the Kingdom of the Living God. But the glorious thing is the Kingdom stands eternally and demonstrates the ignorance and heresy of their foundation.

What is also clear, when shown for what it is, they have no insight or shame or conviction or fear or knowledge, but continue as if nothing has happened, a true definition of a hard heart. That is true foolish courage, as if God is not listening or is forever patient.

I hope you will not mind, Jesus is the best news for us all, if you listen to Him and put your trust in who He is.
Reassurance, theology, belonging, can become barriers to seeing Jesus, if they replace repentance and faith.

Some talk like evil is irrelevant, and the true evil people are those who follow Jesus with a good heart.

That should show you the true root of where they are, and what they have compromised with.
Jesus bring reality, freedom, truth and victory. But it takes faith and following to get there.

Hell is hot and I DONT want you going there Mr Melach. I want you to be on solid footing and foundation. That's starts with not rejecting any scripture posted. If you don't understand, you will in time. If your heart is sincere and open, God will mould you and show you. If you harden your heart to the truth and reject what it plainly says...then each time you do that you harden just a little bit more.

God bless you Mr Melach.

No it doesn’t at all.

i wouldnt want to return to being afraid all the time thats no way to live a christian life. afraid of your own shadow oh i sinned now its salvation gone like no assurance.

i dont know if you have that but i sure did before. i was very neurotic, i believed when i took a loan that i lost my salvation because it says "owe no man nothing.." in one of st.paul letter. i looked at a woman to lust after her and i believed i lost my salvation, all types of things and then i either thought i lost it or made excuses for my behavior saying well its not really that.

also i want to say believing in osas has not made me sin extra amounts so that part doesnt apply to me that its just licentious to sin all the time

You don't pop in and out of salvation like that. It's not how it works. You are saved and you remain saved until such time as you totally reject Christ, willfully reject living by the Spirit and jumping headlong into serving the flesh without any remorse or compunction for change. Then, you are out. Once and for good. That threshold is NOT easily attained, because God doesn't give up on us that easily. He wants all to come to repentance and he is full of Mercy.

If you love God, you will never reach that point. If you don't love God, you will end up there.

Do you love God with all of your heart?

Awesome post Mr. Melach! These guys were trampling on Christ by saying “Yeah, Jesus is great, but we STILL need to offer bulls and goats to atone for our sin”

Kinda like these works guys do today. They say “Yeah, Jesus is great, but we still have to do works and be a sinless perfectionist to stay saved”.

They simply do NOT trust Jesus to keep them saved. Incredibly sad. I honestly feel sorry for them.

Not By Works thread?! nothing much happens there, 5000 pages of name calling and other forms of insults.

Thanks anyway.

Birds of the air.

Thank you for this honest sharing.
This highlights a problem of knowing grace and sanctification. Grace is given so we can grow and work through our issues. Sanctification is the walk of change that starts when we meet Jesus, and our road to resurrection.

You are hyper sensitive to suggestions, so need to apply grace excessively to get a good walk with the Lord.
For others hard rules stop them straying where angels fear to tread. It is why our emphasis and walks are different.
It is also why pedantic theologians can end of causing more problems than they solve.

I didn't invite you